Seriously? Healthcare.gov is a Ruby on Rails site?
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https://github.com/CMSgov/healthcare.gov[^] Really? :omg: Marc
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https://github.com/CMSgov/healthcare.gov[^] Really? :omg: Marc
Why not? RoR is a pretty popular platform.
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Why not? RoR is a pretty popular platform.
It's popularity is due to fast coding; not high server throughput. For a given load you need a lot more RoR servers than if you were using C#, Java, or PHP. This is why high load sites like Twitter left their initial RoR implementation for PHP
Scalawhen they got big.Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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It's open source. They are hoping someone fixes all of its issues for free.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
The only way it could be "fixed" is to have it redone by professionals. It's amazing how silly the governments and politics can be, no matter what the country is. :)
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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It's popularity is due to fast coding; not high server throughput. For a given load you need a lot more RoR servers than if you were using C#, Java, or PHP. This is why high load sites like Twitter left their initial RoR implementation for PHP
Scalawhen they got big.Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
Dan Neely wrote:
It's popularity is due to fast coding; not high server throughput
That is true for most web technologies, including PHP.
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It's popularity is due to fast coding; not high server throughput. For a given load you need a lot more RoR servers than if you were using C#, Java, or PHP. This is why high load sites like Twitter left their initial RoR implementation for PHP
Scalawhen they got big.Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
Dan Neely wrote:
Twitter left their initial RoR implementation for PHP
For PHP?! Whatever portions of RoR was replaced, I thought they replaced it with Scala.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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The only way it could be "fixed" is to have it redone by professionals. It's amazing how silly the governments and politics can be, no matter what the country is. :)
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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Dan Neely wrote:
It's popularity is due to fast coding; not high server throughput
That is true for most web technologies, including PHP.
The gotcha with PHP is less server performance than PHPs high internal level of WTFitude.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote:
Twitter left their initial RoR implementation for PHP
For PHP?! Whatever portions of RoR was replaced, I thought they replaced it with Scala.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
Ooops; memory fail. But as a JVM language Scala still gets into the much better throughput bucket.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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https://github.com/CMSgov/healthcare.gov[^] Really? :omg: Marc
It doesn't really matter what it was written in. The facts remain that : 0) The primary contractor is responsible for its sub-contractors, and for putting everyone's ducks in a row. 1) The customer (fed gov) probably didn't want to commit sufficient resources to the finished product (fail-over, and scaling). That's the way the government is. 2) Fed development contracts are very specific in their statement of work. Contractors can't stray outside the requirements, and change requests are not likely to be made/approved because that would restart the bidding process. 3) Contractors bid for work based on who they have on staff, regardless of a given employee's availability for the project. After they win the contract, they hire pretty much anyone that can spell "HTML". The bar is indeed low. 4) Despite the crying need to spend extra hours (overtime) on a given task, none is generally authorized. At quitting time, the contract manager effectively MAKES everybody leave. 5) Developing software while connected to a fed gov network is a royal pain in the ass for a developer. I've worked for several defense contractors on software projects, and I hope never to have to do it again.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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https://github.com/CMSgov/healthcare.gov[^] Really? :omg: Marc
Wait a minute we (US taxpayers) paid $640,000,000 (roughly) for this site to be developed and it's open source? They ought to put Ruby on rails and run her ass out of town!
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. -Steven Wright
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The only way it could be "fixed" is to have it redone by professionals. It's amazing how silly the governments and politics can be, no matter what the country is. :)
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
it was written by professionals. believe it or not, even professional programmers fuck up sometimes.
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Wait a minute we (US taxpayers) paid $640,000,000 (roughly) for this site to be developed and it's open source? They ought to put Ruby on rails and run her ass out of town!
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. -Steven Wright
Mike Hankey wrote:
$640,000,000
aka, the amount of money the DoD spends every 12 hours.
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Mike Hankey wrote:
$640,000,000
aka, the amount of money the DoD spends every 12 hours.
But not to develop a web site, I think that puts the $1500 hammer in a respectable light!
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. -Steven Wright
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But not to develop a web site, I think that puts the $1500 hammer in a respectable light!
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. -Steven Wright
no, not to develop a website (though the DoD has plenty of those). but it did just spend $567M on planes that it will never use. but again, they can afford to do that literally every day before lunch. i'll bother being upset about the cost of a website for health insurance signup the day after the DoD's budget and spending makes a lick of sense.
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no, not to develop a website (though the DoD has plenty of those). but it did just spend $567M on planes that it will never use. but again, they can afford to do that literally every day before lunch. i'll bother being upset about the cost of a website for health insurance signup the day after the DoD's budget and spending makes a lick of sense.
The more I learn about the government the more upset I get so my best course of action is; 1) Go into my room and scream? (not a screamer, but I am a cusser) 2) Slap my palm to forehead and just accept that it's a stupid/corrupt system? 3) Take massive amounts of drugs? (Tried that back in 60s only temp. relief) 4) Take up meditation? (That was the 70s and didn't help) 5) or just say fuck it and not let it worry me? Choices choices choices!
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. -Steven Wright
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It doesn't really matter what it was written in. The facts remain that : 0) The primary contractor is responsible for its sub-contractors, and for putting everyone's ducks in a row. 1) The customer (fed gov) probably didn't want to commit sufficient resources to the finished product (fail-over, and scaling). That's the way the government is. 2) Fed development contracts are very specific in their statement of work. Contractors can't stray outside the requirements, and change requests are not likely to be made/approved because that would restart the bidding process. 3) Contractors bid for work based on who they have on staff, regardless of a given employee's availability for the project. After they win the contract, they hire pretty much anyone that can spell "HTML". The bar is indeed low. 4) Despite the crying need to spend extra hours (overtime) on a given task, none is generally authorized. At quitting time, the contract manager effectively MAKES everybody leave. 5) Developing software while connected to a fed gov network is a royal pain in the ass for a developer. I've worked for several defense contractors on software projects, and I hope never to have to do it again.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Zero based bullet points. +10.
If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone
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The more I learn about the government the more upset I get so my best course of action is; 1) Go into my room and scream? (not a screamer, but I am a cusser) 2) Slap my palm to forehead and just accept that it's a stupid/corrupt system? 3) Take massive amounts of drugs? (Tried that back in 60s only temp. relief) 4) Take up meditation? (That was the 70s and didn't help) 5) or just say fuck it and not let it worry me? Choices choices choices!
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. -Steven Wright
- Come to Arizona 2) Buy 160 acres of worthless dirt 3) Dig a hole and cover it with brush 4) Purchase many guns and plenty of ammo 5) Crawl into hole with guns and ammo and wait for food to come to you 6) Avoid all forms of communication with the outside world that might be upsetting. PS - I'll be in the hole next door...:suss:
Will Rogers never met me.
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- Come to Arizona 2) Buy 160 acres of worthless dirt 3) Dig a hole and cover it with brush 4) Purchase many guns and plenty of ammo 5) Crawl into hole with guns and ammo and wait for food to come to you 6) Avoid all forms of communication with the outside world that might be upsetting. PS - I'll be in the hole next door...:suss:
Will Rogers never met me.
I'll be in my hole with my illegal weapon!
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. -Steven Wright
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https://github.com/CMSgov/healthcare.gov[^] Really? :omg: Marc
So a red ring of death on the heads-up will likely be followed by a red badge of courage? [edit] ??? How on Earth did this get disconnected from the "iron man soldiers" thread and attached to this one? Is someone wearing a Stark Industries disinformation suit?[/edit]
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
