Seriously? Healthcare.gov is a Ruby on Rails site?
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https://github.com/CMSgov/healthcare.gov[^] Really? :omg: Marc
It doesn't really matter what it was written in. The facts remain that : 0) The primary contractor is responsible for its sub-contractors, and for putting everyone's ducks in a row. 1) The customer (fed gov) probably didn't want to commit sufficient resources to the finished product (fail-over, and scaling). That's the way the government is. 2) Fed development contracts are very specific in their statement of work. Contractors can't stray outside the requirements, and change requests are not likely to be made/approved because that would restart the bidding process. 3) Contractors bid for work based on who they have on staff, regardless of a given employee's availability for the project. After they win the contract, they hire pretty much anyone that can spell "HTML". The bar is indeed low. 4) Despite the crying need to spend extra hours (overtime) on a given task, none is generally authorized. At quitting time, the contract manager effectively MAKES everybody leave. 5) Developing software while connected to a fed gov network is a royal pain in the ass for a developer. I've worked for several defense contractors on software projects, and I hope never to have to do it again.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
https://github.com/CMSgov/healthcare.gov[^] Really? :omg: Marc
Wait a minute we (US taxpayers) paid $640,000,000 (roughly) for this site to be developed and it's open source? They ought to put Ruby on rails and run her ass out of town!
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. -Steven Wright
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The only way it could be "fixed" is to have it redone by professionals. It's amazing how silly the governments and politics can be, no matter what the country is. :)
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
it was written by professionals. believe it or not, even professional programmers fuck up sometimes.
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Wait a minute we (US taxpayers) paid $640,000,000 (roughly) for this site to be developed and it's open source? They ought to put Ruby on rails and run her ass out of town!
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. -Steven Wright
Mike Hankey wrote:
$640,000,000
aka, the amount of money the DoD spends every 12 hours.
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Mike Hankey wrote:
$640,000,000
aka, the amount of money the DoD spends every 12 hours.
But not to develop a web site, I think that puts the $1500 hammer in a respectable light!
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. -Steven Wright
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But not to develop a web site, I think that puts the $1500 hammer in a respectable light!
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. -Steven Wright
no, not to develop a website (though the DoD has plenty of those). but it did just spend $567M on planes that it will never use. but again, they can afford to do that literally every day before lunch. i'll bother being upset about the cost of a website for health insurance signup the day after the DoD's budget and spending makes a lick of sense.
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no, not to develop a website (though the DoD has plenty of those). but it did just spend $567M on planes that it will never use. but again, they can afford to do that literally every day before lunch. i'll bother being upset about the cost of a website for health insurance signup the day after the DoD's budget and spending makes a lick of sense.
The more I learn about the government the more upset I get so my best course of action is; 1) Go into my room and scream? (not a screamer, but I am a cusser) 2) Slap my palm to forehead and just accept that it's a stupid/corrupt system? 3) Take massive amounts of drugs? (Tried that back in 60s only temp. relief) 4) Take up meditation? (That was the 70s and didn't help) 5) or just say fuck it and not let it worry me? Choices choices choices!
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. -Steven Wright
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It doesn't really matter what it was written in. The facts remain that : 0) The primary contractor is responsible for its sub-contractors, and for putting everyone's ducks in a row. 1) The customer (fed gov) probably didn't want to commit sufficient resources to the finished product (fail-over, and scaling). That's the way the government is. 2) Fed development contracts are very specific in their statement of work. Contractors can't stray outside the requirements, and change requests are not likely to be made/approved because that would restart the bidding process. 3) Contractors bid for work based on who they have on staff, regardless of a given employee's availability for the project. After they win the contract, they hire pretty much anyone that can spell "HTML". The bar is indeed low. 4) Despite the crying need to spend extra hours (overtime) on a given task, none is generally authorized. At quitting time, the contract manager effectively MAKES everybody leave. 5) Developing software while connected to a fed gov network is a royal pain in the ass for a developer. I've worked for several defense contractors on software projects, and I hope never to have to do it again.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Zero based bullet points. +10.
If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone
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The more I learn about the government the more upset I get so my best course of action is; 1) Go into my room and scream? (not a screamer, but I am a cusser) 2) Slap my palm to forehead and just accept that it's a stupid/corrupt system? 3) Take massive amounts of drugs? (Tried that back in 60s only temp. relief) 4) Take up meditation? (That was the 70s and didn't help) 5) or just say fuck it and not let it worry me? Choices choices choices!
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. -Steven Wright
- Come to Arizona 2) Buy 160 acres of worthless dirt 3) Dig a hole and cover it with brush 4) Purchase many guns and plenty of ammo 5) Crawl into hole with guns and ammo and wait for food to come to you 6) Avoid all forms of communication with the outside world that might be upsetting. PS - I'll be in the hole next door...:suss:
Will Rogers never met me.
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- Come to Arizona 2) Buy 160 acres of worthless dirt 3) Dig a hole and cover it with brush 4) Purchase many guns and plenty of ammo 5) Crawl into hole with guns and ammo and wait for food to come to you 6) Avoid all forms of communication with the outside world that might be upsetting. PS - I'll be in the hole next door...:suss:
Will Rogers never met me.
I'll be in my hole with my illegal weapon!
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. -Steven Wright
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https://github.com/CMSgov/healthcare.gov[^] Really? :omg: Marc
So a red ring of death on the heads-up will likely be followed by a red badge of courage? [edit] ??? How on Earth did this get disconnected from the "iron man soldiers" thread and attached to this one? Is someone wearing a Stark Industries disinformation suit?[/edit]
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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It doesn't really matter what it was written in. The facts remain that : 0) The primary contractor is responsible for its sub-contractors, and for putting everyone's ducks in a row. 1) The customer (fed gov) probably didn't want to commit sufficient resources to the finished product (fail-over, and scaling). That's the way the government is. 2) Fed development contracts are very specific in their statement of work. Contractors can't stray outside the requirements, and change requests are not likely to be made/approved because that would restart the bidding process. 3) Contractors bid for work based on who they have on staff, regardless of a given employee's availability for the project. After they win the contract, they hire pretty much anyone that can spell "HTML". The bar is indeed low. 4) Despite the crying need to spend extra hours (overtime) on a given task, none is generally authorized. At quitting time, the contract manager effectively MAKES everybody leave. 5) Developing software while connected to a fed gov network is a royal pain in the ass for a developer. I've worked for several defense contractors on software projects, and I hope never to have to do it again.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
The facts
Indeed they are, and very well put. It seems that some things are constant in all governments, not just the US.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Wait a minute we (US taxpayers) paid $640,000,000 (roughly) for this site to be developed and it's open source? They ought to put Ruby on rails and run her ass out of town!
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. -Steven Wright
At least that comparative pittance was spent on developers' families and homes.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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The more I learn about the government the more upset I get so my best course of action is; 1) Go into my room and scream? (not a screamer, but I am a cusser) 2) Slap my palm to forehead and just accept that it's a stupid/corrupt system? 3) Take massive amounts of drugs? (Tried that back in 60s only temp. relief) 4) Take up meditation? (That was the 70s and didn't help) 5) or just say fuck it and not let it worry me? Choices choices choices!
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. -Steven Wright
2 it is!
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it was written by professionals. believe it or not, even professional programmers fuck up sometimes.
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and i've never seen a program that worked flawlessly on its initial release. have you?
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and i've never seen a program that worked flawlessly on its initial release. have you?
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It doesn't really matter what it was written in. The facts remain that : 0) The primary contractor is responsible for its sub-contractors, and for putting everyone's ducks in a row. 1) The customer (fed gov) probably didn't want to commit sufficient resources to the finished product (fail-over, and scaling). That's the way the government is. 2) Fed development contracts are very specific in their statement of work. Contractors can't stray outside the requirements, and change requests are not likely to be made/approved because that would restart the bidding process. 3) Contractors bid for work based on who they have on staff, regardless of a given employee's availability for the project. After they win the contract, they hire pretty much anyone that can spell "HTML". The bar is indeed low. 4) Despite the crying need to spend extra hours (overtime) on a given task, none is generally authorized. At quitting time, the contract manager effectively MAKES everybody leave. 5) Developing software while connected to a fed gov network is a royal pain in the ass for a developer. I've worked for several defense contractors on software projects, and I hope never to have to do it again.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013dat nº 3.. And they wonder why nothing ever works right. And that nº4 is even worse. So pretty much you spend all day scracthing you head until the little bulb in your head lights up, and when you're in a coding spree because everything suddenly made sense... Sorry, you have to go now. No more worky work for you. Wow
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Zero based bullet points. +10.
If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone
I always do that - it tends to f*ck with the VB guys. :)
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
and i've never seen a program that worked flawlessly on its initial release. have you?
Chris Losinger wrote:
have you?
Yes, but it took a couple years to establish the procedures for the plan/develop/test/relese cycle - where the hardest part was to get everybody to understand that there is a world of difference between proper QA and unit-testing. Unit testing is a good tool that has its place, but QA is much more than just unit testing - and I guess you already know that ;).
Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra
