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Just saw on the news tonight what they claim is to be built in place of the World Trade Center. Can't bothered looking for a link to a site on the web using my shitty dial-up connection. It's by some German guy whose name translated into English must mean dickhead. I mean what an abortion. Let's just leave the fucked up, blown up foundations and build over them and hope it's stable. Then we'll put some immensely tall shitty looking see through tower and fill it with trees. I think the people who signed off on this must have been partying with that bloke who used to be mayor of Washington DC. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
I expected them to turn it into a memorial site. I'm afraid I don't understand the obsession with building more towers there - but then I'm not an American so that shouldn't be a surprise! Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk
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Paul Watson wrote: When did you move to America and who made you God? ;P I haven't moved to America and I believe I have always been God. Paul Watson wrote: Well this proposal is better than the others and I like the tree idea. But overall one would think The Greatest Nation On Earth could come up with a better idea. They could have paid me millions of dollars to design it. I giant can of VB with a not so giant jar of :vegemite: on top. :-D Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
Michael Martin wrote: I haven't moved to America and I believe I have always been God. Oh ok, my mistake on the God thing, err, God. Either I have to start believing in God now, or stop believing in Michael Martin. Hmmmm... tough choice. Michael Martin wrote: I giant can of VB with a not so giant jar of on top :laugh: Americans might call that cultural terrorism by Australians. Aussie, Aussie, oi, oi, oi!
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Michael Martin wrote: I haven't moved to America and I believe I have always been God. Oh ok, my mistake on the God thing, err, God. Either I have to start believing in God now, or stop believing in Michael Martin. Hmmmm... tough choice. Michael Martin wrote: I giant can of VB with a not so giant jar of on top :laugh: Americans might call that cultural terrorism by Australians. Aussie, Aussie, oi, oi, oi!
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Paul Watson wrote: Americans might call that cultural terrorism by Australians. Aussie, Aussie, oi, oi, oi! No, just bringing something of taste and substance to the US. I would have preferred to use Coopers, Cascade, Red Back, Dogbolter or some other decent beer. But VB is CUB's flagship beer and CUB is the supplier of beer waste that becomes :vegemite:. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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The translated name is not dickhead, but dearchild. And he is (AFAIK) Jewish, not German. Well.. all the best for NYC, and it's an admirable way of "showing strength", but maybe sticking huge middle finger out of the city is not the best idea. [edit] Clickety[^] I know I should have kept my mouth sut...[/edit]
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[sighist] | [Agile Programming] [doxygen]peterchen wrote: And he is (AFAIK) Jewish, not German. Can he not be both? :-D "I will find a new sig someday."
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Just saw on the news tonight what they claim is to be built in place of the World Trade Center. Can't bothered looking for a link to a site on the web using my shitty dial-up connection. It's by some German guy whose name translated into English must mean dickhead. I mean what an abortion. Let's just leave the fucked up, blown up foundations and build over them and hope it's stable. Then we'll put some immensely tall shitty looking see through tower and fill it with trees. I think the people who signed off on this must have been partying with that bloke who used to be mayor of Washington DC. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
I have a problem with all modern architecture in general. I thougt the original WTC was as ugly as hell. Sky scrapers are always eye sores simply because of the demands of physics. None of the ornate elegance of earlier generations. Just glass and aluminum. Yuck. However, having said that, I have always been in favor of putting up another one just like the other one as a monument to what American is and, I hope, will forever be - a thriving center of free market enterprise and capitalism. Loud, rude, barbarians striving as individuals to make a buck. Just the way I like it. In your face world (especially you radical muslim and socialist pinko types). ;P "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
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When did you move to America and who made you God? ;p Well this proposal is better than the others and I like the tree idea. But overall one would think The Greatest Nation On Earth could come up with a better idea.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
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Paul Watson wrote: But overall one would think The Greatest Nation On Earth could come up with a better idea. Well, you're not American, so I can forgive the misunderstanding. The Greatest Nation On Earth (hmmm, sounds a lot like the Greatest Show on Earth, doesn't it? :-)) isn't driven by the best idea. It's driven by politics (both politicians and corporate), payoffs and profit taking, just like everywhere else. The best idea doesn't stand a chance. Hmmm, maybe someone should write a book about this... Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Paul Watson wrote: But overall one would think The Greatest Nation On Earth could come up with a better idea. Well, you're not American, so I can forgive the misunderstanding. The Greatest Nation On Earth (hmmm, sounds a lot like the Greatest Show on Earth, doesn't it? :-)) isn't driven by the best idea. It's driven by politics (both politicians and corporate), payoffs and profit taking, just like everywhere else. The best idea doesn't stand a chance. Hmmm, maybe someone should write a book about this... Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
Christopher Duncan wrote: hmmm, sounds a lot like the Greatest Show on Earth, doesn't it? So long as it is On Ice people will go watch. Turds On Ice would be booked out solid. Christopher Duncan wrote: Hmmm, maybe someone should write a book about this... Not sure you have the neccesary butt kissing ability to get the neccesary experience in this :-D
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Want a job?
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Article in English: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8331-2003Feb26.html[^] Google news link to all the reportings of this: http://news.google.com/news?num=30&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=cluster:slate%2emsn%2ecom%2fid%2f2079228%2f[^] [edit:] Also of interest. http://www.daniel-libeskind.com/ [^] - Quite a peculiar site layout, but I like it :) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
Cripes, that is one ugly abortion of monument! It's a shame the Post doesn't include a "Comment on this Article" option. It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
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Although on the one hand it seems like a nice idea (people's loved ones living on, will not be conquered, etc), it seems rather like an invitation for a later attack to me. Perhaps I'm too synical, but I would not like to be offered a job in that future building. :(
But I am fantastic in bed! And there are gorgeous women in all the houses I pass. And it would be wrong to leave them unsatisfied! So spam is the only way... - Paul Watson
Megan Forbes wrote: I would not like to be offered a job in that future building. Fortunately for you, they're likely to be hiring only gardners. And that may be a good thing, as it will likely remove a number of low-wage foreigners from behind the wheels of taxi cabs and put them behind shovels and rakes where they can do less damage.:) It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
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Jewish not German I don't understand this - One is a religion, one is a nationality That's like me saying "I'm Agnostic, not English" (all the sources I've read say he's German, btw) [edit:] though the biog[^] on his site says he was born in Poland, became an American Citizen and now lives in Germany. I think he's just trying to confuse us to death -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
Well, jews claim to be a part of Zion - a jewish nation. Or have I totally misunderstood this Zion thing? :) -- Uh huh. Yeah.
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I expected them to turn it into a memorial site. I'm afraid I don't understand the obsession with building more towers there - but then I'm not an American so that shouldn't be a surprise! Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: I'm afraid I don't understand the obsession with building more towers there It's all about money. The price per square unit in downtown Manhattan is quite steep. It would be foolish NOT to rebuild something that could be used. That doesn't prevent, however, that the new building will be some sort of monument/memorial site. -- Uh huh. Yeah.
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: I'm afraid I don't understand the obsession with building more towers there It's all about money. The price per square unit in downtown Manhattan is quite steep. It would be foolish NOT to rebuild something that could be used. That doesn't prevent, however, that the new building will be some sort of monument/memorial site. -- Uh huh. Yeah.
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: It's all about money. If so, that's a huge shame. I'd hoped it was about something far more important - namely remembering those whose lives were lost on that awful day. :(( Sadly, it seems greed wins again. It makes me sick just to think about it. :mad: Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk
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peterchen wrote: And he is (AFAIK) Jewish, not German. Can he not be both? :-D "I will find a new sig someday."
sure, but I was under the (partially wrong(?)) impression that a) he has no german passport (anymore?) and b) "Jewish" does reveal more about him than "german"
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I expected them to turn it into a memorial site. I'm afraid I don't understand the obsession with building more towers there - but then I'm not an American so that shouldn't be a surprise! Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk
"Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
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My very own personal analysis (I've seen an US American on TV so I must know! ;) ) Start again, bigger, better: this is deeply rooted: beginning with the way "the west was won", up to the typical reaction after a hurricane or earthquake: "well build a new house. What else can we do?", to the five times millionaire, five times bankrupt types. (Yes, each and every US American is that way, and everybody who says otherwise is a terrorist) I do perceive it as kind of "sticky finger" to the Osama's out there: You can't hurt us, we will go on. Interesting question: Would you be willing to work there? I would feel creepy, and I guess In germany most people would "do it for the job", not more. My crystal ball tells me you won't have any problem to find offices moving in there, and they'll be proud of it.
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My very own personal analysis (I've seen an US American on TV so I must know! ;) ) Start again, bigger, better: this is deeply rooted: beginning with the way "the west was won", up to the typical reaction after a hurricane or earthquake: "well build a new house. What else can we do?", to the five times millionaire, five times bankrupt types. (Yes, each and every US American is that way, and everybody who says otherwise is a terrorist) I do perceive it as kind of "sticky finger" to the Osama's out there: You can't hurt us, we will go on. Interesting question: Would you be willing to work there? I would feel creepy, and I guess In germany most people would "do it for the job", not more. My crystal ball tells me you won't have any problem to find offices moving in there, and they'll be proud of it.
If you go to war, you will destroy a great country a stoned greek chick to the richest man of the world
[sighist] | [Agile Programming] [doxygen]peterchen wrote: Start again, bigger, better: this is deeply rooted: beginning with the way "the west was won", up to the typical reaction after a hurricane or earthquake: "well build a new house. What else can we do?", to the five times millionaire, five times bankrupt types. (Yes, each and every US American is that way, and everybody who says otherwise is a terrorist) Sigh. I guess my European socialist liberal mind will never truly understand. :confused: peterchen wrote: I do perceive it as kind of "sticky finger" to the Osama's out there: You can't hurt us, we will go on. That part I do understand, at least. peterchen wrote: Interesting question: Would you be willing to work there? I would feel creepy, and I guess In germany most people would "do it for the job", not more. My crystal ball tells me you won't have any problem to find offices moving in there, and they'll be proud of it. Emphatically Not. I'd feel like I was sitting in a graveyard, and "working" in such a place would be something I just couldn't bring myself to do. At the very least, I'd constantly be in tears and unable to concentrate. Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk
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sure, but I was under the (partially wrong(?)) impression that a) he has no german passport (anymore?) and b) "Jewish" does reveal more about him than "german"
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[sighist] | [Agile Programming] [doxygen]Fun Question: Since my ancestry is 87.5% Germanic in origin (Area that are now German speaking areas from Switzerland to the Dutch coast and some Prussian) with the rest Irish, Scottish, and English. Most were pre US revolution immigrants (1683-1725). Am I German? (Does it matter?:-D) One man I work with is 100% Irish heritage but was born and raised in Scotland and came to the US 8 months ago. Is he Irish or Scottish? Nothing important here.:rose: "I will find a new sig someday."
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Fun Question: Since my ancestry is 87.5% Germanic in origin (Area that are now German speaking areas from Switzerland to the Dutch coast and some Prussian) with the rest Irish, Scottish, and English. Most were pre US revolution immigrants (1683-1725). Am I German? (Does it matter?:-D) One man I work with is 100% Irish heritage but was born and raised in Scotland and came to the US 8 months ago. Is he Irish or Scottish? Nothing important here.:rose: "I will find a new sig someday."
IMO the "where hes fromis not about passport or nationality, but cultural heritage. Does your collegue behave more like a Scotsman, or an Irish? If both and neither, probably "an Irish Scot" is the best description ;) [carefully checks that lauren's not around]
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