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A good stab at Ruby on Rails and the healthcare.gov web site

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    Espen Harlinn
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    Million Lines of Code | Information Is Beautiful[^]

    Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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      Marc Clifton
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      A high end car is 100 million lines of code? My god, that's supposed to be in the car? Or are they talking about the design and manufacturing software / equipment, etc? Well, it's not all Ruby code BTW - apparently RoR is used only for the front end. I imagine there's quite a bit of Cobol code still lurking in those cheapskate criminal thieving lying murderous insurance companies. Marc

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        Marcus J Smith
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        That's a joke right? How in the world is that possible?


        CleaKO

        "Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)

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          A high end car is 100 million lines of code? My god, that's supposed to be in the car? Or are they talking about the design and manufacturing software / equipment, etc? Well, it's not all Ruby code BTW - apparently RoR is used only for the front end. I imagine there's quite a bit of Cobol code still lurking in those cheapskate criminal thieving lying murderous insurance companies. Marc

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          Shelby Robertson
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          Java backend if the article i saw on it was correct.

          CPallini wrote:

          You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him. :Smile:

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            Million Lines of Code | Information Is Beautiful[^]

            Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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            Maximilien
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            yeah, right ... "APPARENT" size of ... from the NYT article used as a reference : "According to one specialist, the Web site contains about 500 million lines of software code. By comparison, a large bank’s computer system is typically about one-fifth that size." :rolleyes:

            I'd rather be phishing!

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              Chris Losinger
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              except that the "500M" lines of code is utter BS.

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                That's a joke right? How in the world is that possible?


                CleaKO

                "Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)

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                Chris Losinger
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                it's not. some jackass made up a number and the media has deemed it a 'fact' that's too good to check.

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                  Million Lines of Code | Information Is Beautiful[^]

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                  Mike Hankey
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                  IT takes a lot of code to BS everyone that signs up...all 6 of em! :)

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                    Java backend if the article i saw on it was correct.

                    CPallini wrote:

                    You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him. :Smile:

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                    Shelby Robertson wrote:

                    Java backend if the article i saw on it was correct.

                    :omg: :laugh: Wow, and they could have chosen C#. :sigh: I can imagine the glee of the geeks, millions of dollars and probably free reign to champion whatever technologies they wanted. I've worked with Javaheads before, and they are, without exception, a pompous and arrogant group. Erm, you DO code in something other than Java right? Where's the foot-in-mouth icon, should I need one! Marc

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                      Shelby Robertson wrote:

                      Java backend if the article i saw on it was correct.

                      :omg: :laugh: Wow, and they could have chosen C#. :sigh: I can imagine the glee of the geeks, millions of dollars and probably free reign to champion whatever technologies they wanted. I've worked with Javaheads before, and they are, without exception, a pompous and arrogant group. Erm, you DO code in something other than Java right? Where's the foot-in-mouth icon, should I need one! Marc

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                      Shelby Robertson
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                      I'm a .NET and c++ developer, so Java bashing is right up my alley.

                      CPallini wrote:

                      You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him. :Smile:

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                        the front end of Healthcare.gov is written in Ruby on Rails? Really?

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                          except that the "500M" lines of code is utter BS.

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                          Chris Losinger wrote:

                          utter BS.

                          ...much like the 2500+ pages of the law itself and the 10,500 pages of its regulations.

                          Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                            the front end of Healthcare.gov is written in Ruby on Rails? Really?

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                            Chris Losinger
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                            yes. the front end really isn't very tough. it's the backend stuff that's the hard part: interfacing with all those different govt agencies and insurance carriers.

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                              Shelby Robertson wrote:

                              Java backend if the article i saw on it was correct.

                              :omg: :laugh: Wow, and they could have chosen C#. :sigh: I can imagine the glee of the geeks, millions of dollars and probably free reign to champion whatever technologies they wanted. I've worked with Javaheads before, and they are, without exception, a pompous and arrogant group. Erm, you DO code in something other than Java right? Where's the foot-in-mouth icon, should I need one! Marc

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                              Nagy Vilmos
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                              Who are you calling pompous and arrogant? :mad:

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                                yes. the front end really isn't very tough. it's the backend stuff that's the hard part: interfacing with all those different govt agencies and insurance carriers.

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                                Jorgen Andersson
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                                That explains the mess. They should have reversed it, and let the govt agencies and insurance carriers adjust to them instead.

                                Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. Buckminster Fuller

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                                  Who are you calling pompous and arrogant? :mad:

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                                  Marc Clifton
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                                  Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                  Who are you calling pompous and arrogant?

                                  The proof is in the pudding. :laugh: Marc

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                                    yes. the front end really isn't very tough. it's the backend stuff that's the hard part: interfacing with all those different govt agencies and insurance carriers.

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                                    the front end really isn't very tough Indeed :) I would really like to know who made the decision to choose a platform with known and documented scalability issues.

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                                      Mark_Wallace
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                                      Well, the whotzitgov thing is obviously a fantasy, but are there really five million lines in the XBox DVD player? Why on Earth would it want a number even approaching that? What does it do that you can't do in a few thousand?

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                                        That explains the mess. They should have reversed it, and let the govt agencies and insurance carriers adjust to them instead.

                                        Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. Buckminster Fuller

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                                        Jan Steyn
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                                        Now, now. That wouldn't have given cronies contractors a nice kickback now would it?

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                                          Now, now. That wouldn't have given cronies contractors a nice kickback now would it?

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                                          Jorgen Andersson
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                                          And it was the contractors that made the specifications I suppose...

                                          Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. Buckminster Fuller

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