A good stab at Ruby on Rails and the healthcare.gov web site
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Million Lines of Code | Information Is Beautiful[^]
Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra
except that the "500M" lines of code is utter BS.
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That's a joke right? How in the world is that possible?
CleaKO
"Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)
it's not. some jackass made up a number and the media has deemed it a 'fact' that's too good to check.
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Million Lines of Code | Information Is Beautiful[^]
Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra
IT takes a lot of code to BS everyone that signs up...all 6 of em! :)
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. -Steven Wright
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Java backend if the article i saw on it was correct.
CPallini wrote:
You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him. :Smile:
Shelby Robertson wrote:
Java backend if the article i saw on it was correct.
:omg: :laugh: Wow, and they could have chosen C#. :sigh: I can imagine the glee of the geeks, millions of dollars and probably free reign to champion whatever technologies they wanted. I've worked with Javaheads before, and they are, without exception, a pompous and arrogant group. Erm, you DO code in something other than Java right? Where's the foot-in-mouth icon, should I need one! Marc
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Shelby Robertson wrote:
Java backend if the article i saw on it was correct.
:omg: :laugh: Wow, and they could have chosen C#. :sigh: I can imagine the glee of the geeks, millions of dollars and probably free reign to champion whatever technologies they wanted. I've worked with Javaheads before, and they are, without exception, a pompous and arrogant group. Erm, you DO code in something other than Java right? Where's the foot-in-mouth icon, should I need one! Marc
I'm a .NET and c++ developer, so Java bashing is right up my alley.
CPallini wrote:
You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him. :Smile:
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Million Lines of Code | Information Is Beautiful[^]
Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra
the front end of Healthcare.gov is written in Ruby on Rails? Really?
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except that the "500M" lines of code is utter BS.
Chris Losinger wrote:
utter BS.
...much like the 2500+ pages of the law itself and the 10,500 pages of its regulations.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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the front end of Healthcare.gov is written in Ruby on Rails? Really?
yes. the front end really isn't very tough. it's the backend stuff that's the hard part: interfacing with all those different govt agencies and insurance carriers.
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Shelby Robertson wrote:
Java backend if the article i saw on it was correct.
:omg: :laugh: Wow, and they could have chosen C#. :sigh: I can imagine the glee of the geeks, millions of dollars and probably free reign to champion whatever technologies they wanted. I've worked with Javaheads before, and they are, without exception, a pompous and arrogant group. Erm, you DO code in something other than Java right? Where's the foot-in-mouth icon, should I need one! Marc
Who are you calling pompous and arrogant? :mad:
speramus in juniperus
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yes. the front end really isn't very tough. it's the backend stuff that's the hard part: interfacing with all those different govt agencies and insurance carriers.
That explains the mess. They should have reversed it, and let the govt agencies and insurance carriers adjust to them instead.
Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. Buckminster Fuller
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Who are you calling pompous and arrogant? :mad:
speramus in juniperus
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
Who are you calling pompous and arrogant?
The proof is in the pudding. :laugh: Marc
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yes. the front end really isn't very tough. it's the backend stuff that's the hard part: interfacing with all those different govt agencies and insurance carriers.
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Million Lines of Code | Information Is Beautiful[^]
Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra
Well, the whotzitgov thing is obviously a fantasy, but are there really five million lines in the XBox DVD player? Why on Earth would it want a number even approaching that? What does it do that you can't do in a few thousand?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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That explains the mess. They should have reversed it, and let the govt agencies and insurance carriers adjust to them instead.
Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. Buckminster Fuller
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And it was the contractors that made the specifications I suppose...
Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. Buckminster Fuller
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the front end really isn't very tough Indeed :) I would really like to know who made the decision to choose a platform with known and documented scalability issues.
Well, I once tried asking a few awkward questions on the Ruby on Rails: Talk[^] mailing list related to security. I just wanted to know about support for impersonation, constrained delegation, etc. on Windows - and not surprisingly, nobody cared to answer - even if I think I was quite polite about it. In general I feel that the Ruby on Rails community is more of a religious fraternity, than a programming community - that fraternity, admittedly have a few very tallented members, but in general they, about 90 % of them, are deep into denial that there is sentient life outside their sacred Ruby On Rails fraternity.
Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra
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A high end car is 100 million lines of code? My god, that's supposed to be in the car? Or are they talking about the design and manufacturing software / equipment, etc? Well, it's not all Ruby code BTW - apparently RoR is used only for the front end. I imagine there's quite a bit of Cobol code still lurking in those cheapskate criminal thieving lying murderous insurance companies. Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
My god, that's supposed to be in the car?
Try getting a replacement for your cars main computer, some have several - a high-end workstation comes cheaper. Implementing software that complies with MISRA[^] also tends to make the size of the codebase explode, and much of the code is a result of code generation tools that translate various homegrown logic languages into c.
Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra
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Shelby Robertson wrote:
Java backend if the article i saw on it was correct.
:omg: :laugh: Wow, and they could have chosen C#. :sigh: I can imagine the glee of the geeks, millions of dollars and probably free reign to champion whatever technologies they wanted. I've worked with Javaheads before, and they are, without exception, a pompous and arrogant group. Erm, you DO code in something other than Java right? Where's the foot-in-mouth icon, should I need one! Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
free reign to champion whatever technologies they wanted
The wonders of maven[^] - like nuget, and other similar tools, it makes it far to easy to add just another framework to your application. When used as they were intended they are wonderful tools, but more often than not, they are used to create SaaS (Software as a Soup) software.
Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra
