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A good stab at Ruby on Rails and the healthcare.gov web site

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  • M Marc Clifton

    Shelby Robertson wrote:

    Java backend if the article i saw on it was correct.

    :omg: :laugh: Wow, and they could have chosen C#. :sigh: I can imagine the glee of the geeks, millions of dollars and probably free reign to champion whatever technologies they wanted. I've worked with Javaheads before, and they are, without exception, a pompous and arrogant group. Erm, you DO code in something other than Java right? Where's the foot-in-mouth icon, should I need one! Marc

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    Nagy Vilmos
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    Who are you calling pompous and arrogant? :mad:

    speramus in juniperus

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      yes. the front end really isn't very tough. it's the backend stuff that's the hard part: interfacing with all those different govt agencies and insurance carriers.

      image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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      Jorgen Andersson
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      That explains the mess. They should have reversed it, and let the govt agencies and insurance carriers adjust to them instead.

      Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. Buckminster Fuller

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        Who are you calling pompous and arrogant? :mad:

        speramus in juniperus

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        Marc Clifton
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        Nagy Vilmos wrote:

        Who are you calling pompous and arrogant?

        The proof is in the pudding. :laugh: Marc

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        • C Chris Losinger

          yes. the front end really isn't very tough. it's the backend stuff that's the hard part: interfacing with all those different govt agencies and insurance carriers.

          image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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          Lost User
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          the front end really isn't very tough Indeed :) I would really like to know who made the decision to choose a platform with known and documented scalability issues.

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            Million Lines of Code | Information Is Beautiful[^]

            Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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            Mark_Wallace
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            Well, the whotzitgov thing is obviously a fantasy, but are there really five million lines in the XBox DVD player? Why on Earth would it want a number even approaching that? What does it do that you can't do in a few thousand?

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            • J Jorgen Andersson

              That explains the mess. They should have reversed it, and let the govt agencies and insurance carriers adjust to them instead.

              Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. Buckminster Fuller

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              Jan Steyn
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              Now, now. That wouldn't have given cronies contractors a nice kickback now would it?

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                Now, now. That wouldn't have given cronies contractors a nice kickback now would it?

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                Jorgen Andersson
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                And it was the contractors that made the specifications I suppose...

                Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. Buckminster Fuller

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                  the front end really isn't very tough Indeed :) I would really like to know who made the decision to choose a platform with known and documented scalability issues.

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                  Well, I once tried asking a few awkward questions on the Ruby on Rails: Talk[^] mailing list related to security. I just wanted to know about support for impersonation, constrained delegation, etc. on Windows - and not surprisingly, nobody cared to answer - even if I think I was quite polite about it. In general I feel that the Ruby on Rails community is more of a religious fraternity, than a programming community - that fraternity, admittedly have a few very tallented members, but in general they, about 90 % of them, are deep into denial that there is sentient life outside their sacred Ruby On Rails fraternity.

                  Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    A high end car is 100 million lines of code? My god, that's supposed to be in the car? Or are they talking about the design and manufacturing software / equipment, etc? Well, it's not all Ruby code BTW - apparently RoR is used only for the front end. I imagine there's quite a bit of Cobol code still lurking in those cheapskate criminal thieving lying murderous insurance companies. Marc

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                    Espen Harlinn
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                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    My god, that's supposed to be in the car?

                    Try getting a replacement for your cars main computer, some have several - a high-end workstation comes cheaper. Implementing software that complies with MISRA[^] also tends to make the size of the codebase explode, and much of the code is a result of code generation tools that translate various homegrown logic languages into c.

                    Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Shelby Robertson wrote:

                      Java backend if the article i saw on it was correct.

                      :omg: :laugh: Wow, and they could have chosen C#. :sigh: I can imagine the glee of the geeks, millions of dollars and probably free reign to champion whatever technologies they wanted. I've worked with Javaheads before, and they are, without exception, a pompous and arrogant group. Erm, you DO code in something other than Java right? Where's the foot-in-mouth icon, should I need one! Marc

                      Day 1: Spider Database Navigator Unit Testing Succinctly

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                      Espen Harlinn
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                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      free reign to champion whatever technologies they wanted

                      The wonders of maven[^] - like nuget, and other similar tools, it makes it far to easy to add just another framework to your application. When used as they were intended they are wonderful tools, but more often than not, they are used to create SaaS (Software as a Soup) software.

                      Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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