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Am I wrong to declare VB .Net is the best programing language ever. Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.
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Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.
Confuse you with silly syntax. Or give you an ego. :)
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Am I wrong to declare VB .Net is the best programing language ever. Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.
It's not that hot on Functional Programming. It's native performance isn't as hot as something like Assembler or C/C++. It doesn't run on Apple or Android devices. Shall I continue?
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Am I wrong to declare VB .Net is the best programing language ever. Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.
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Am I wrong to declare VB .Net is the best programing language ever. Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.
tmik wrote:
Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.
It doesn't really work like that, you know? Here, let me show you. Problem 1: Am I wrong to declare MSIL is the best programing language ever. Is there any one who can pin point the things MSIL can't do while other languages can do. Ok, fine, there are a couple of things. But the problem with MSIL is not what it can't do, it's that it's MSIL. Obviously anything that can be done in VB.NET (or any .NET language) can be done in MSIL, because that's what it is compiled to. By the measure of "can do the most things", MSIL would be the best possible .NET language. So clearly that's a silly measure. Problem 2: Suppose language 1 can do A and B, and language 2 can do B and C. Which language is better?
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Am I wrong to declare VB .Net is the best programing language ever. Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.
tmik wrote:
Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.
There's a few good (actually good) discussions I've seen out there that demonstrate some of VB's problems. I don't remember where they are though, as I stay away from VB because the pay rate for VB developers is lower, the majority of VB jobs that I've seen are coding, no architecture or design involved in the job, and quite frankly, most of the VB stuff seem to be filled by junior developers. Case in point, the management at a large communication satellite manufacturer that I was working at wanted to know why we didn't write the code in VB (we were using C#) and cited that VB programmers were cheaper and more readily available and that "everyone" could understand VB. While cheaper and more available is true, "everyone could understand VB" is a huge misconception that many managers seem to have - because the language is supposedly easier to understand, the code therefore is supposedly easier to write and maintain. Marc
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tmik wrote:
Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.
It doesn't really work like that, you know? Here, let me show you. Problem 1: Am I wrong to declare MSIL is the best programing language ever. Is there any one who can pin point the things MSIL can't do while other languages can do. Ok, fine, there are a couple of things. But the problem with MSIL is not what it can't do, it's that it's MSIL. Obviously anything that can be done in VB.NET (or any .NET language) can be done in MSIL, because that's what it is compiled to. By the measure of "can do the most things", MSIL would be the best possible .NET language. So clearly that's a silly measure. Problem 2: Suppose language 1 can do A and B, and language 2 can do B and C. Which language is better?
harold aptroot wrote:
Suppose language 1 can do A and B, and language 2 can do B and C. Which language is better?
The one with the bigger breasts.
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Am I wrong to declare VB .Net is the best programing language ever. Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.
I think it comes down to personal preference I was a VB.NET developer now I move to C# and don't regret it. But there has been mud sling about VB in general being a inferior language since it the early 90's that I know of. So I would put on your flame proof pants as you will more than likely get some stick. previous versions of the language couldn't do half of the stuff that C# could do and vice versa for example in Visual studio 2008 VB couldn't update values in a LinQ query C# could do default values in method. but since VS2010 they changed some of this and Microsoft decided to develop the languages at the same pace i.e. what went into VB also went into C# etc.
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Tell me how to perform unsafe code in VB.NET ? Thanks,
Ranjan.D
Ranjan.D wrote:
unsafe code
Ranjan.D wrote:
Isn't that a tautology? (OK, cheap shot! - I've written enough VB in my time)
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Am I wrong to declare VB .Net is the best programing language ever. Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.
tmik wrote:
Am I wrong to declare VB .Net is the best programing language ever.
Undoubtedly.
Regards, Rob Philpott.
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It's not that hot on Functional Programming. It's native performance isn't as hot as something like Assembler or C/C++. It doesn't run on Apple or Android devices. Shall I continue?
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
It's native performance isn't as hot as something like Assembler or C/C++.
True, but precisely as hot as C#, so for those who claim that VB is inferior to C#: ;P
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Am I wrong to declare VB .Net is the best programing language ever. Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.
My view is Horses for courses, I have to use C, Assembler for microcontrollers & C# for windows, I have used VB6 in the past (looking like I might have to do some debugging again in it!) but I would go so far to say that is ideal try writing drivers in it (you can, you don't want to), it sadly gives you the view that you can do everything from one language while you can have a stab at nearly everything (the code stands to be ugly/not very maintainable)...
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Am I wrong to declare VB .Net is the best programing language ever. Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.
tmik wrote:
Am I wrong to declare VB .Net is the best programing language ever.
Yes. It's a kludge on an bodge on a hack of a language first designed for non programmers - and it shows. It allows stupidly weak typing, and any language which allows ON ERROR RESUME NEXT should be taken out and shot. Having said that, if you use it properly it is a good, robust, modern language. The problem is that most of it's users are not good, robust, modern coders...and the teachers who educate them are even worse.
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tmik wrote:
Am I wrong to declare VB .Net is the best programing language ever.
Yes. It's a kludge on an bodge on a hack of a language first designed for non programmers - and it shows. It allows stupidly weak typing, and any language which allows ON ERROR RESUME NEXT should be taken out and shot. Having said that, if you use it properly it is a good, robust, modern language. The problem is that most of it's users are not good, robust, modern coders...and the teachers who educate them are even worse.
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger. English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
Well said! It's obviously very different to the days of VB6 now, but that had the Variant type in it, and people used it - a lot. The whole concept of type safety seemed lost on VB 'developers'. And it was 40x slower than a native type. That didn't matter though, becuase if it could be done in VB it wasn't that important anyway.
Regards, Rob Philpott.
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Am I wrong to declare VB .Net is the best programing language ever. Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.
It's not the tool, it's what you do with it that matters. It is such a contentious issue that it is simply not possible to make generalisations on the topic. I work with VB and C# - there really is not much of a difference for most of what you will need in .Net. I have a preference for C#, but it is a preference as I can do everything I need to do in C# just as well in VB. In defence of VB - there are some great developers and article writers out there - Sacha Barber[^] springs to mind.
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So if you think that VB is the better language, does that mean that you need glasses in order to C#?
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Am I wrong to declare VB .Net is the best programing language ever. Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.
tmik wrote:
Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.
Eh, where do I start? You can't write a Linux device driver with VB and you can with some other programming languages. You can't write an OS kernel with VB and you can with some other programming languages. You can' write any real-time software with VB and you can with some other programming languages. You can't write a Chrome extension with VB and you can with some other programming languages. You can't extend the syntax of VB with VB and you can extend syntax of some other languages using those languages.
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Am I wrong to declare VB .Net is the best programing language ever. Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.
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VB can't do while other languages can do
Tell me how to perform unsafe code in VB.NET ? Thanks,
Ranjan.D
write a C# dll with the unsafe methods or code parts and reference it? ;P
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Am I wrong to declare VB .Net is the best programing language ever. Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.
I currently use both VB.Net and C# at work. Newer projects are all C#. However one feature I sometimes miss: VB.Net shows you Error pretty much as soons as you write them. For C# you have to recompile the whole lot before you even know that you have errors :sigh: Still I like c# way more. Especially Linq and Lambda Expresseions are a PITA in VB.Net.
