VB = Very Best

Chris Maunder

Ranjan.D wrote:

unsafe code

Ranjan.D wrote:

VB.NET

Isn't that a tautology? (OK, cheap shot! - I've written enough VB in my time)

Rob Philpott

tmik wrote:

Am I wrong to declare VB .Net is the best programing language ever.

Undoubtedly.

Regards, Rob Philpott.

Johnny J

Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

It's native performance isn't as hot as something like Assembler or C/C++.

True, but precisely as hot as C#, so for those who claim that VB is inferior to C#: ;P

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glennPattonWork3

My view is Horses for courses, I have to use C, Assembler for microcontrollers & C# for windows, I have used VB6 in the past (looking like I might have to do some debugging again in it!) but I would go so far to say that is ideal try writing drivers in it (you can, you don't want to), it sadly gives you the view that you can do everything from one language while you can have a stab at nearly everything (the code stands to be ugly/not very maintainable)...

OriginalGriff

tmik wrote:

Am I wrong to declare VB .Net is the best programing language ever.

Yes. It's a kludge on an bodge on a hack of a language first designed for non programmers - and it shows. It allows stupidly weak typing, and any language which allows ON ERROR RESUME NEXT should be taken out and shot. Having said that, if you use it properly it is a good, robust, modern language. The problem is that most of it's users are not good, robust, modern coders...and the teachers who educate them are even worse.

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Rob Philpott

Well said! It's obviously very different to the days of VB6 now, but that had the Variant type in it, and people used it - a lot. The whole concept of type safety seemed lost on VB 'developers'. And it was 40x slower than a native type. That didn't matter though, becuase if it could be done in VB it wasn't that important anyway.

Regards, Rob Philpott.

GuyThiebaut

It's not the tool, it's what you do with it that matters. It is such a contentious issue that it is simply not possible to make generalisations on the topic. I work with VB and C# - there really is not much of a difference for most of what you will need in .Net. I have a preference for C#, but it is a preference as I can do everything I need to do in C# just as well in VB. In defence of VB - there are some great developers and article writers out there - Sacha Barber[^] springs to mind.

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Johnny J

So if you think that VB is the better language, does that mean that you need glasses in order to C#?

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Nemanja Trifunovic

tmik wrote:

Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.

Eh, where do I start? You can't write a Linux device driver with VB and you can with some other programming languages. You can't write an OS kernel with VB and you can with some other programming languages. You can' write any real-time software with VB and you can with some other programming languages. You can't write a Chrome extension with VB and you can with some other programming languages. You can't extend the syntax of VB with VB and you can extend syntax of some other languages using those languages.

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CPallini

tmik wrote:

Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.

Surely I cannot: In my opinion, VB programmers can do all the weirdest things I'm not even able to imagine.

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Nicholas Marty

write a C# dll with the unsafe methods or code parts and reference it? ;P

Nicholas Marty

I currently use both VB.Net and C# at work. Newer projects are all C#. However one feature I sometimes miss: VB.Net shows you Error pretty much as soons as you write them. For C# you have to recompile the whole lot before you even know that you have errors :sigh: Still I like c# way more. Especially Linq and Lambda Expresseions are a PITA in VB.Net.

GuyThiebaut

Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

You can't extend the syntax of VB with VB and you can extend syntax of some other languages using those languages.

Not sure what you mean by 'Extend' but I have this in all my VB code so that I don't need to use delegates with cross thread calls:

Module Extensions

     \_
    Sub SynchronisedInvoke(synchMe As ISynchronizeInvoke, action As Action)

        If Not synchMe.InvokeRequired Then

            action()

        Else

            synchMe.Invoke(action, New Object() {})

        End If

    End Sub

End Module

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Nemanja Trifunovic

GuyThiebaut wrote:

Not sure what you mean by 'Extend'

I mean like with Lisp macros. For instance, Scheme doesn't offer any out-of-the box support for object oriented programming, but because it has Lisp-type macros, people wrote extensions (such as ScmObj[^]) that turn Scheme into an OOP language. A nice explanation of Lisp macros can be found here: http://lists.warhead.org.uk/pipermail/iwe/2005-July/000130.html[^]

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Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

Do you want a pointer on what vb can't do. Some times it is hard to point out specifics. Maybe some of the C++ guys will chime in with a few pointers.

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GuyThiebaut

I see what you mean :thumbsup: I was looking at Haskell recently(can't claim I understood it).

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David Crow

tmik wrote:

Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.

Is that the differentiating factor you use to guage whether one language is better than another? If so, then no answer will suffice.

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Ranjan D

It's not possible to write in VB.NET and peoples simply don't except the truth :laugh: Unsafe code - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa664769(v=vs.71).aspx[^]

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Silvabolt

VB: Dim num As Integer C#: int num; For every integer I declare, I have to press ~10 more keys in VB than C#. It gets worst as my code becomes longer and you end up seeing a ton of Dims and unnecessary text. It takes longer to read through, iffy looking syntax... What exactly is a 'Dim' anyways? If you research the answer to this, you will realize that it's definition is not intuitive anymore and wrongly used based on what it's supposed to mean.

Dave Kreskowiak

That's easy, C/C++/C# style "pointers". That alone makes image processing SOOOO much easier.

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