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What bugtracker to use?

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    Jorgen Andersson
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    I know the subject's been up to discussion before, but it was a while ago according to my quick search, so thing might have changed a bit. We need to get a new bugtracker at my office instead of a homegrown one that has been outdated for some years now, and ironically quite buggy. And I've been looking around a little and think that fogbugz would be a very nice tracker indeed. But my boss finds it expensive. So what bugtrackers are there? Pros and cons, why's and whynots. I want it to work with SVN as that's the code repository that works out of the box with Oracles tools.

    Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. Buckminster Fuller

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      I know the subject's been up to discussion before, but it was a while ago according to my quick search, so thing might have changed a bit. We need to get a new bugtracker at my office instead of a homegrown one that has been outdated for some years now, and ironically quite buggy. And I've been looking around a little and think that fogbugz would be a very nice tracker indeed. But my boss finds it expensive. So what bugtrackers are there? Pros and cons, why's and whynots. I want it to work with SVN as that's the code repository that works out of the box with Oracles tools.

      Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. Buckminster Fuller

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      DaveAuld
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      Bugzilla is free and has integration with SVN. Scroll down the page here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:Addons[^]

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        I know the subject's been up to discussion before, but it was a while ago according to my quick search, so thing might have changed a bit. We need to get a new bugtracker at my office instead of a homegrown one that has been outdated for some years now, and ironically quite buggy. And I've been looking around a little and think that fogbugz would be a very nice tracker indeed. But my boss finds it expensive. So what bugtrackers are there? Pros and cons, why's and whynots. I want it to work with SVN as that's the code repository that works out of the box with Oracles tools.

        Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. Buckminster Fuller

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        HPQC[^] It's a PITA.

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          HPQC[^] It's a PITA.

          Veni, vidi, caecus

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          Nagy Vilmos
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          I've used it in the past and it is truly awful.

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            I've used it in the past and it is truly awful.

            speramus in juniperus

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            I guess it is the only web application which 0) Only runs in IE 1) Make you download a thousand DLLs, install VC++ Redistributable 2010, 2008 and still throws VB Script Errors

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              I know the subject's been up to discussion before, but it was a while ago according to my quick search, so thing might have changed a bit. We need to get a new bugtracker at my office instead of a homegrown one that has been outdated for some years now, and ironically quite buggy. And I've been looking around a little and think that fogbugz would be a very nice tracker indeed. But my boss finds it expensive. So what bugtrackers are there? Pros and cons, why's and whynots. I want it to work with SVN as that's the code repository that works out of the box with Oracles tools.

              Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. Buckminster Fuller

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              Rage
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              How many of you will be using it ? There are not plenty of "cheap" solutions out there. Most of novelties are tending to integrate Mercurial and Git instead of SVN also.

              ~RaGE();

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                How many of you will be using it ? There are not plenty of "cheap" solutions out there. Most of novelties are tending to integrate Mercurial and Git instead of SVN also.

                ~RaGE();

                I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                It's a small company with seven users at the moment, sometimes up to ten when we are using consultants. SVN isn't a definitive must, but as Oracle SQLDeveloper and Datamodeler is having an SVN client built in and a distributed revision system isn't important to us, that's our choice at the moment. And totally besides the point, Git gives me a headache.

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                  HPQC[^] It's a PITA.

                  Veni, vidi, caecus

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                  Jorgen Andersson
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                  That's a scary movie. It's so aimed to the "decisionmakers" that you quickly realize it's not first hand made for developers.

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                    It's a small company with seven users at the moment, sometimes up to ten when we are using consultants. SVN isn't a definitive must, but as Oracle SQLDeveloper and Datamodeler is having an SVN client built in and a distributed revision system isn't important to us, that's our choice at the moment. And totally besides the point, Git gives me a headache.

                    Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. Buckminster Fuller

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                    For that small amount of users, bugzilla could do it - the question will be the one of the costs : since someone will be doing the maintenance and customizing, it could be much less interesting than switching directly to something like Fogbugz with everything included. Fogbugz is great, and $25/month/user is a bargain when you come to think about all the features. For 10 people, it is $3000 a year, so about a man-month. The rest I can think of (Rational, TFS, ..) is much too expensive and over-engineerd, IMO. You might have a look at Polarion[^], which is a subversion based ALM software (so including change management as well). I am not sure about their prices though.

                    ~RaGE();

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                      I know the subject's been up to discussion before, but it was a while ago according to my quick search, so thing might have changed a bit. We need to get a new bugtracker at my office instead of a homegrown one that has been outdated for some years now, and ironically quite buggy. And I've been looking around a little and think that fogbugz would be a very nice tracker indeed. But my boss finds it expensive. So what bugtrackers are there? Pros and cons, why's and whynots. I want it to work with SVN as that's the code repository that works out of the box with Oracles tools.

                      Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. Buckminster Fuller

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                      Richard Deeming
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                      YouTrack[^] is free for up to 10 users.


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                        For that small amount of users, bugzilla could do it - the question will be the one of the costs : since someone will be doing the maintenance and customizing, it could be much less interesting than switching directly to something like Fogbugz with everything included. Fogbugz is great, and $25/month/user is a bargain when you come to think about all the features. For 10 people, it is $3000 a year, so about a man-month. The rest I can think of (Rational, TFS, ..) is much too expensive and over-engineerd, IMO. You might have a look at Polarion[^], which is a subversion based ALM software (so including change management as well). I am not sure about their prices though.

                        ~RaGE();

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                        Rage wrote:

                        $25/month/user is a bargain when you come to think about all the features. For 10 people, it is $3000 a year, so about a man-month.

                        Exactly my thought.

                        Rage wrote:

                        You might have a look at Polarion[^], which is a subversion based ALM software (so including change management as well). I am not sure about their prices though.

                        Just checked it on their homepage: $2,490 Lifetime license for Named User. But you can also get a quote.

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                          YouTrack[^] is free for up to 10 users.


                          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                          Jorgen Andersson
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                          Looks cool, have you tried it?

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                            Just saw on Youtracks homepage that HP is using them. Go figure

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                              Looks cool, have you tried it?

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                              Yes, we're using it as our main issue tracker. At that price, it's got to be worth a go! :)


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                                I know the subject's been up to discussion before, but it was a while ago according to my quick search, so thing might have changed a bit. We need to get a new bugtracker at my office instead of a homegrown one that has been outdated for some years now, and ironically quite buggy. And I've been looking around a little and think that fogbugz would be a very nice tracker indeed. But my boss finds it expensive. So what bugtrackers are there? Pros and cons, why's and whynots. I want it to work with SVN as that's the code repository that works out of the box with Oracles tools.

                                Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. Buckminster Fuller

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                                I did a lot of searching a couple of years ago on this very thing. We use subversion for our version control and were using bugzilla for issue tracking. We wanted to move everything to the web, so we did. I ended up going with bontq http://www.bontq.com/[^]for our bug tracking and beanstalk http://www.beanstalkapp.com/[^]for the subversion host. We have been EXTREMELY satisfied with both of them. Highly recommended....

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                                  Yes, we're using it as our main issue tracker. At that price, it's got to be worth a go! :)


                                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                  Will have a proper look at it, thanks.

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                                    I did a lot of searching a couple of years ago on this very thing. We use subversion for our version control and were using bugzilla for issue tracking. We wanted to move everything to the web, so we did. I ended up going with bontq http://www.bontq.com/[^]for our bug tracking and beanstalk http://www.beanstalkapp.com/[^]for the subversion host. We have been EXTREMELY satisfied with both of them. Highly recommended....

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                                    Jorgen Andersson
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                                    You just made the choice a lot more problematic. :) I guess I have some homework to do.

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                                      I know the subject's been up to discussion before, but it was a while ago according to my quick search, so thing might have changed a bit. We need to get a new bugtracker at my office instead of a homegrown one that has been outdated for some years now, and ironically quite buggy. And I've been looking around a little and think that fogbugz would be a very nice tracker indeed. But my boss finds it expensive. So what bugtrackers are there? Pros and cons, why's and whynots. I want it to work with SVN as that's the code repository that works out of the box with Oracles tools.

                                      Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. Buckminster Fuller

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                                      I've only used a homegrown bug tracker and atlassians jira (see this page)[^]. The homegrown one was a PITA but jira is just awesome. There is a free SVN integration that lets you see all your commits to a single issue. There is also integration for Git and TFS if you like to change your SCM once. There is also a add on called "jira agile" which gives you a customizable scrum board if you are into that stuff. Furthermore you can - if you like - also host it in the cloud out of the box and hence save all your maintenance costs. If I get their licensing right it costs 10$/month for up to ten users. Regards, cmger

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                                        I know the subject's been up to discussion before, but it was a while ago according to my quick search, so thing might have changed a bit. We need to get a new bugtracker at my office instead of a homegrown one that has been outdated for some years now, and ironically quite buggy. And I've been looking around a little and think that fogbugz would be a very nice tracker indeed. But my boss finds it expensive. So what bugtrackers are there? Pros and cons, why's and whynots. I want it to work with SVN as that's the code repository that works out of the box with Oracles tools.

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                                        The Bug Genie. It has integration with SVN, offers hosted service or you can download and use it on your own hardware for free.

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                                          I know the subject's been up to discussion before, but it was a while ago according to my quick search, so thing might have changed a bit. We need to get a new bugtracker at my office instead of a homegrown one that has been outdated for some years now, and ironically quite buggy. And I've been looking around a little and think that fogbugz would be a very nice tracker indeed. But my boss finds it expensive. So what bugtrackers are there? Pros and cons, why's and whynots. I want it to work with SVN as that's the code repository that works out of the box with Oracles tools.

                                          Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. Buckminster Fuller

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                                          I'm thinking of using Mantis. It does integrate with [Tortoise]SVN via a plugin. When using that SVN client, you can optionally click a button to browse the issues on Mantis and select which issue(s) it resolves. Anyone had any experience with it?

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