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  • M Mohammed Hameed

    SVN is to Developers | TFS is to Build/Deployment Engineers! Do you Agree? Please share your thoughts...

    Explore.Code.Experiment.Excel!!! --------------------------------------------------------- My blog - My recent article

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    Lost User
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    SVN is to people with modest hardware available | TFS is to people with money Assuming self hosting, anyway.

    MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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    • J Joe Woodbury

      Until you branch.

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      Albert Holguin
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      Branches aren't exactly the easiest to deal with in SVN, but after you do it a few times it's not all that bad.

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        Branches aren't exactly the easiest to deal with in SVN, but after you do it a few times it's not all that bad.

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        Joe Woodbury
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        Having used version control systems that did branching right and witnessing all the problems with SVN branching, to me it's bad enough to never use SVN if I have a say.

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          Having used version control systems that did branching right and witnessing all the problems with SVN branching, to me it's bad enough to never use SVN if I have a say.

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          Albert Holguin
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          :laugh:

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          • M Mohammed Hameed

            SVN is to Developers | TFS is to Build/Deployment Engineers! Do you Agree? Please share your thoughts...

            Explore.Code.Experiment.Excel!!! --------------------------------------------------------- My blog - My recent article

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            DJ van Wyk
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            After managing TFS (while doing lots of coding as well) I switched over to SVN when I started working at a new company. I have to say I that I much prefer TFS. In SVNs defence, I have very little working experience with it. Having said that, I found that TFS is a full ALM solution which made collaboration and deployments much, much easier than anything else I've used.

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            • P Pete OHanlon

              Mohammed Hameed wrote:

              TFS is to Build/Deployment Engineers!

              Why not developers? I use TFS for source control, so why is it not for me as a developer?

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              Mohammed Hameed
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              I didnt say it is not for Developers. I mean TFS should be preferably used by Build engineers because of its features.

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              • R R Giskard Reventlov

                No: used TFS as a developer for a few years and it does a good job. Used Subversion in the past and it was fiddly and unpredictable so perfectly suited for white board project managers.

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                Mohammed Hameed
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                Thank Mark. I also have similar experience for TFS & SVN as yours.

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                • L Lost User

                  SVN is to people with modest hardware available | TFS is to people with money Assuming self hosting, anyway.

                  MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                  Mohammed Hameed
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                  Did it mean all the options/features available in TFS is also available in SVN?

                  Explore.Code.Experiment.Excel!!! --------------------------------------------------------- My blog - My recent article

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                  • R Ravi Bhavnani

                    I disagree.  More like: SVN is to Developers | TFS is to Project Management, Developers, Build/Deployment Engineers /ravi

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                    sir_download_alot
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                    Agree!

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                    • J Joe Woodbury

                      Having used version control systems that did branching right and witnessing all the problems with SVN branching, to me it's bad enough to never use SVN if I have a say.

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                      Fabio Franco
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                      I've been branching with SVN for several years now with no major problems, unlike TFS that the few times I used branching, caused major headaches and code break outs.

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                      • M Mohammed Hameed

                        SVN is to Developers | TFS is to Build/Deployment Engineers! Do you Agree? Please share your thoughts...

                        Explore.Code.Experiment.Excel!!! --------------------------------------------------------- My blog - My recent article

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                        Steve Naidamast
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                        I have used SVN, TFS, Mercurial, VSS (and I agree, completely terrible) and IBM's Mercury over the many years I have been in the IT profession. Whatever failings or drawbacks SVN may have, one area in which it really shines where the others don't, with the exception of Mercurial, is that it is completely invisible for use by small teams. You update your code-base in the morning and commit your updates at night letting SVN figure out the complexities of merging many user updates to the same modules at the same time. And all of this can be done through the Explorer plugin, "TortoiseSVN". No mess, no fuss. True there are issues with SVN but there are issues with all SCM systems. Think TFS is better? Try changing the name of your project and storing it in the same place...

                        Steve Naidamast Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@ix.netcom.com

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                        • J Joe Woodbury

                          Until you branch.

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                          Stefan_Lang
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                          It used to be difficult to keep track of which versions you already had merged to a branch and which not, but since about 2 years SVN keeps track of that information for you: i. e. once you wish to merge back to head you can just merge the entire history since you branched and SVN will prevent any duplicate merges! If there are any other issues regarding branching (that other VCSs don't share) I am not aware of them.

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                          • M Mohammed Hameed

                            Did it mean all the options/features available in TFS is also available in SVN?

                            Explore.Code.Experiment.Excel!!! --------------------------------------------------------- My blog - My recent article

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                            NO, I think TFS has a load more features, but you need to look at what you want or need - it's not worth spending money and additional time to learn to use features you don't need

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                            • M Mohammed Hameed

                              SVN is to Developers | TFS is to Build/Deployment Engineers! Do you Agree? Please share your thoughts...

                              Explore.Code.Experiment.Excel!!! --------------------------------------------------------- My blog - My recent article

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                              Br Bill
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                              TFS is only for Build/Deployment engineers who can live with easy and simple canned functionality. My experience using it for build/deployment was miserable because we didn't fit the cookie-cutter methodology MS provided. I absolutely hate TFS.

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                              • M Mohammed Hameed

                                SVN is to Developers | TFS is to Build/Deployment Engineers! Do you Agree? Please share your thoughts...

                                Explore.Code.Experiment.Excel!!! --------------------------------------------------------- My blog - My recent article

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                                DarkChuky CR
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                                It just how you use it.... Both can be used just like a a sharepoint, just to store your files and have a single changeset-checkin id ot track changes... If you only care about storage and share SNV could be the best option, cause you don't need to install Visual Studio to access it.... but then the integraton with your Development IDE can be a pain. If you want to have more tracking, tickets and better contront on version and branches it's better to use TFS, it integrates all in one single IDE, ok you can add third party solution to your SVN and get the same but then you need to maintain 2 products.... So, both are good, at the end it's it just how you use and what can you pay for... (SVN with Trac is beautiful)

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