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  • C Colborne_Greg

    sorry that is what is happening - as I am told by the instructors thought the Microsoft academy. Deal with it

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    Simon ORiordan from UK
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    "Deal with it" Suicide call of Kame Kaze business through the ages. And Ford still only makes black cars. :laugh:

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      "Deal with it" Suicide call of Kame Kaze business through the ages. And Ford still only makes black cars. :laugh:

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      Colborne_Greg
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      If people dealt with ford only making black cars those cars would still be made in Detroit

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      • S Simon ORiordan from UK

        Yeah. No sysprep. Great if you want to give some random bozo access to your accounts and identity after you sell the computer. Now WTF didn't I think of that? :laugh:

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        Colborne_Greg
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        Format /u

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        • M Marco Bertschi

          SortaCore wrote:

          I think it was the wireless driver which came with the wireless card, must've not been compatible. :~

          Not really MS fault if you install a non-compatible driver, isn't it?

          SortaCore wrote:

          only to have it do a BSOD on me, run System Restore without letting me pick the restore point, and promptly undo every single application I installed and every setting I changed. :OMG:

          Backup. You need a backup.

          SortaCore wrote:

          Although I did find the desktop app. Now I just need to find a hacky program to restore the Start menu so I don't get what I'm typing blocked out by a full-screen search box. X|

          I still don't get why this bothers people. The behavior stays the same, it is only displayed in a different way?

          Clean-up crew needed, grammar spill... - Nagy Vilmos

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          SortaCore
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          Marco Bertschi wrote:

          Not really MS fault if you install a non-compatible driver, isn't it?

          It is MS' fault, because I doubt the motherboard distributor (being the motherboard targets Windows 7+ only) would write a driver that's not compatible. So MS made something incompatible between 7 and 8.1. Less likely, the driver installer didn't detect an incompatible OS, so was coded in a faulty manner. But MS' fancy Windows 8.1 should really have a bit of a more sophisticated response than a BSOD, and should detect invalid drivers on install. I'm not blaming MS for having a fault, just for handling it in an awful way.

          Marco Bertschi wrote:

          Backup. You need a backup.

          No one creates a backup mid-way through an computer setup. Before and after, yes, but not half-way through it, since you'll lose your place amongst the long list of installs. And I don't see why it reset my Control Panel-based settings when it clearly told me no settings would be deleted - I thought it would use the good driver config like Windows XP's Last Known Good Configuration idea, not freak out and wipe everything.

          Marco Bertschi wrote:

          still don't get why this bothers people. The behavior stays the same, it is only displayed in a different way?

          The display forces a physical disconnection from what you were looking at, and if you were just about to type something, it's disorientating. It's like you looking at a screen and when you press a key someone slams a opaque plastic screen in the way, so you can only see a tiny part of it. When you're focused on your work having it separated from you like that throws you off. Not to mention half the time you're looking at what you're searching for (i.e. code) and typing something related, so it doesn't help to not be able to see it.

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          • C Colborne_Greg

            When 8.1 was released Microsoft announced that it will be doing continuous roll outs from now on. Windows 9 is the end goal of windows 8 - it will not have the desktop that everyone is in love with. So if you want to be part of the future. I suggest you start learning windows 8.

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            If Windows 9 doesn't have the desktop at all, not even salvageable by the likes of Classic Shell, then it will be something that everyone hates and it will encourage a lot of people to move to Linux distros, which are much more full-featured and user friendly these days. Look at the low takeup of Windows 8 – 9 would be far worse than that. If Microsoft wants to be part of the future, they'll do well to listen to what their customers want.

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            • B BobJanova

              If Windows 9 doesn't have the desktop at all, not even salvageable by the likes of Classic Shell, then it will be something that everyone hates and it will encourage a lot of people to move to Linux distros, which are much more full-featured and user friendly these days. Look at the low takeup of Windows 8 – 9 would be far worse than that. If Microsoft wants to be part of the future, they'll do well to listen to what their customers want.

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              Colborne_Greg
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              Says you. windows phone 8 was at %0.8 market share is now over %4 by the time 9 arrives in 8 years from now 8.1 - 2013 8.2 - 2014 8.3 - 2015 and so on The desktop is a hard to understand technology and everyone that isn't a tech hates it.

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2014/02/03/windows-xp-resists-death-sentence/[^] XP rises slightly (not significant, probably just sampling) But...the market share is interesting:

                Windows 7 47.49%
                XP 29.23%
                8 6.63%
                8.1 3.95%
                Vista 3.3%

                And Win 7 was at 25% at the same stage in it's release as Win8 is now...bodes well for Windows 9 I guess.

                Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                DarkChuky CR
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                and what makes it funnier is that the Win8 and Win8.1 % is raised just because they stop "selling" Win7 and forced new PCs to come with Win8, so at leas 50% of that user are using it because they were forced and not because they want it! hahahaha But just a little defense to Win8, Win8 is not as bad as Vista was, the only problem with Win8 is that stupid Metro (and those annoying menus a the border) when you are in a Desktop mode (you must install Start8 you will love it) the OS works the same as Win7 (so no need to change from Win7 hehehehe)

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                • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                  After seeing Win 8-8.1 you excepted something else?

                  I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                  KP Lee
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                  Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                  you excepted something else?

                  I suspect you meant “you expected...”?

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                  • C Colborne_Greg

                    When 8.1 was released Microsoft announced that it will be doing continuous roll outs from now on. Windows 9 is the end goal of windows 8 - it will not have the desktop that everyone is in love with. So if you want to be part of the future. I suggest you start learning windows 8.

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                    Colborne_Greg wrote:

                    it will not have the desktop that everyone is in love with.

                    I'm not in love with the desktop, it's just that it's where 99% percent of the Windows applications are run, and with that in mind, if they simply disappear the Desktop I think that other OSes will have a chance (and I don't refer to Linux).

                    CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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                    • R RafagaX

                      Colborne_Greg wrote:

                      it will not have the desktop that everyone is in love with.

                      I'm not in love with the desktop, it's just that it's where 99% percent of the Windows applications are run, and with that in mind, if they simply disappear the Desktop I think that other OSes will have a chance (and I don't refer to Linux).

                      CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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                      Colborne_Greg
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                      Yeah that is the problem - nothing or close to nothing is programmed for metro mode. Though all of our problems in computers in because of how bad the desktop programs are, at least this beast of an operating system called windows 8 a hybrid to bridge the cap for that lack of programming.

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                      • C Colborne_Greg

                        Format /u

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                        Simon ORiordan from UK
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                        What's that mate? Format \u? Is that normally how you thank people? If microsoft depends on Dinosaurs, it'll be gone in ten years.

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                        • S Simon ORiordan from UK

                          What's that mate? Format \u? Is that normally how you thank people? If microsoft depends on Dinosaurs, it'll be gone in ten years.

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                          Colborne_Greg
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                          I am not Microsoft. Although if I were to sell a computer format /u is the only way to remove personal information from a hard drive as it writes the byte F9 several times to remove the possibility of data stolen. As for Microsoft's plan is to find the all use case so you don't need to setup anything. If I have to care about the Operating system on a single machine or any machine for that matter - I have already lost.

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                          • S SortaCore

                            I spent several hours yesterday installing Windows 8.1 and drivers, setting up every setting I found... only to have it do a BSOD on me, run System Restore without letting me pick the restore point, and promptly undo every single application I installed and every setting I changed. :omg: I think it was the wireless driver which came with the wireless card, must've not been compatible. :~ Windows 8.1 experience: kill it with fire. Although I did find the desktop app. Now I just need to find a hacky program to restore the Start menu so I don't get what I'm typing blocked out by a full-screen search box. X|

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                            Stefan_Lang
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                            SortaCore wrote:

                            Now I just need to find a hacky program to restore the Start menu

                            ClassicShell[^] does it for me on my W8 ultrabook. I'm not gonna touch 8.1 with a 10 foot pole, for various reasons. And if W8 updates keep resetting my power and energy settings like they did in the past, I'm gonna kill W8 entirely! :mad:

                            GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)

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                              Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                              you excepted something else?

                              I suspect you meant “you expected...”?

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                              Stefan_Lang
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                              The alternative would be that he meant "accepted" - well, in the context of W8/W8.1? Nah, not likely! I guess you have it right. ;P

                              GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)

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                              • S Stefan_Lang

                                SortaCore wrote:

                                Now I just need to find a hacky program to restore the Start menu

                                ClassicShell[^] does it for me on my W8 ultrabook. I'm not gonna touch 8.1 with a 10 foot pole, for various reasons. And if W8 updates keep resetting my power and energy settings like they did in the past, I'm gonna kill W8 entirely! :mad:

                                GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)

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                                SortaCore
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                                Yep - I'm using Classic Shell for the start menu, AutoHotkey script for "backspace means up, not previous view" in Explorer, and UXTheme so I can have a dark theme with light text. And I installed Start++ so I can use run programs with elevated priviledges, so instead of "regedit", I do "sudo regedit". Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be a way to scrap the ribbon interface and go back to menus in Windows File Explorer, though, and I hate oversized GUIs.

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