Some interesting statistics
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If Windows 9 doesn't have the desktop at all, not even salvageable by the likes of Classic Shell, then it will be something that everyone hates and it will encourage a lot of people to move to Linux distros, which are much more full-featured and user friendly these days. Look at the low takeup of Windows 8 – 9 would be far worse than that. If Microsoft wants to be part of the future, they'll do well to listen to what their customers want.
Says you. windows phone 8 was at %0.8 market share is now over %4 by the time 9 arrives in 8 years from now 8.1 - 2013 8.2 - 2014 8.3 - 2015 and so on The desktop is a hard to understand technology and everyone that isn't a tech hates it.
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http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2014/02/03/windows-xp-resists-death-sentence/[^] XP rises slightly (not significant, probably just sampling) But...the market share is interesting:
Windows 7 47.49%
XP 29.23%
8 6.63%
8.1 3.95%
Vista 3.3%And Win 7 was at 25% at the same stage in it's release as Win8 is now...bodes well for Windows 9 I guess.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
and what makes it funnier is that the Win8 and Win8.1 % is raised just because they stop "selling" Win7 and forced new PCs to come with Win8, so at leas 50% of that user are using it because they were forced and not because they want it! hahahaha But just a little defense to Win8, Win8 is not as bad as Vista was, the only problem with Win8 is that stupid Metro (and those annoying menus a the border) when you are in a Desktop mode (you must install Start8 you will love it) the OS works the same as Win7 (so no need to change from Win7 hehehehe)
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After seeing Win 8-8.1 you excepted something else?
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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When 8.1 was released Microsoft announced that it will be doing continuous roll outs from now on. Windows 9 is the end goal of windows 8 - it will not have the desktop that everyone is in love with. So if you want to be part of the future. I suggest you start learning windows 8.
Colborne_Greg wrote:
it will not have the desktop that everyone is in love with.
I'm not in love with the desktop, it's just that it's where 99% percent of the Windows applications are run, and with that in mind, if they simply disappear the Desktop I think that other OSes will have a chance (and I don't refer to Linux).
CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...
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Colborne_Greg wrote:
it will not have the desktop that everyone is in love with.
I'm not in love with the desktop, it's just that it's where 99% percent of the Windows applications are run, and with that in mind, if they simply disappear the Desktop I think that other OSes will have a chance (and I don't refer to Linux).
CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...
Yeah that is the problem - nothing or close to nothing is programmed for metro mode. Though all of our problems in computers in because of how bad the desktop programs are, at least this beast of an operating system called windows 8 a hybrid to bridge the cap for that lack of programming.
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Format /u
What's that mate? Format \u? Is that normally how you thank people? If microsoft depends on Dinosaurs, it'll be gone in ten years.
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What's that mate? Format \u? Is that normally how you thank people? If microsoft depends on Dinosaurs, it'll be gone in ten years.
I am not Microsoft. Although if I were to sell a computer format /u is the only way to remove personal information from a hard drive as it writes the byte F9 several times to remove the possibility of data stolen. As for Microsoft's plan is to find the all use case so you don't need to setup anything. If I have to care about the Operating system on a single machine or any machine for that matter - I have already lost.
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I spent several hours yesterday installing Windows 8.1 and drivers, setting up every setting I found... only to have it do a BSOD on me, run System Restore without letting me pick the restore point, and promptly undo every single application I installed and every setting I changed. :omg: I think it was the wireless driver which came with the wireless card, must've not been compatible. :~ Windows 8.1 experience: kill it with fire. Although I did find the desktop app. Now I just need to find a hacky program to restore the Start menu so I don't get what I'm typing blocked out by a full-screen search box. X|
SortaCore wrote:
Now I just need to find a hacky program to restore the Start menu
ClassicShell[^] does it for me on my W8 ultrabook. I'm not gonna touch 8.1 with a 10 foot pole, for various reasons. And if W8 updates keep resetting my power and energy settings like they did in the past, I'm gonna kill W8 entirely! :mad:
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
you excepted something else?
I suspect you meant “you expected...”?
The alternative would be that he meant "accepted" - well, in the context of W8/W8.1? Nah, not likely! I guess you have it right. ;P
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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SortaCore wrote:
Now I just need to find a hacky program to restore the Start menu
ClassicShell[^] does it for me on my W8 ultrabook. I'm not gonna touch 8.1 with a 10 foot pole, for various reasons. And if W8 updates keep resetting my power and energy settings like they did in the past, I'm gonna kill W8 entirely! :mad:
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
Yep - I'm using Classic Shell for the start menu, AutoHotkey script for "backspace means up, not previous view" in Explorer, and UXTheme so I can have a dark theme with light text. And I installed Start++ so I can use run programs with elevated priviledges, so instead of "regedit", I do "sudo regedit". Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be a way to scrap the ribbon interface and go back to menus in Windows File Explorer, though, and I hate oversized GUIs.
