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  • N Nagy Vilmos

    This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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    Argonia
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    What about gin, vodka, rum and beer ?

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    • N Nagy Vilmos

      This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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      Simon Lee Shugar
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      You should read The Name of The Wind - By Patrick Rothfuss[^]. The magicians like "Naming" things as they have a talent in the naming of things.

      Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil

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      • N Nagy Vilmos

        This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        Nagy Vilmos wrote:

        John, Paul, George and Ringo

        Not very exntensible. I used characters from "The Love Boat" once, and eventually had to add parts of the ship.

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        • N Nagy Vilmos

          This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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          And I thought I'm the only idiot spending half of his development time on making self explanatory names... I'm glad not to be alone... But really, Service-Agency-Agent-Process can be good...

          I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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          • N Nagy Vilmos

            This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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            Tim Carmichael
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            Nagy Vilmos wrote:

            Broker

            Prime Minister

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            • N Nagy Vilmos

              This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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              Tim Carmichael
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              Broker -> Prime Minister Service -> HouseOfLords Agent -> Mayor Process -> CivilServants Tim

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              • N Nagy Vilmos

                This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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                Rage
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                Broker - Dispatcher ? Service - Handler ? Agent - Dalek ?

                ~RaGE();

                I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                  Broker -> Prime Minister Service -> HouseOfLords Agent -> Mayor Process -> CivilServants Tim

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                  Nagy Vilmos
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                  Seriously? The PM doesn't control the House of Commons let alone the Lords. But this gives me an idea - Possessor, Dominus, Exactoris & Servus.

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                    Broker - Dispatcher ? Service - Handler ? Agent - Dalek ?

                    ~RaGE();

                    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                    Nagy Vilmos
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                    Rage wrote:

                    Agent - Dalek ?

                    Are you mad? And leave me open to paying royalties to *him*!

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                      Broker - Dispatcher ? Service - Handler ? Agent - Dalek ?

                      ~RaGE();

                      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                      CCCholic

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                      • N Nagy Vilmos

                        Seriously? The PM doesn't control the House of Commons let alone the Lords. But this gives me an idea - Possessor, Dominus, Exactoris & Servus.

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                        Tim Carmichael
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                        Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                        Seriously?

                        Of course not serious! But it did provide a logical progression that could be understand, even if it was only a metaphor.

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                        • N Nagy Vilmos

                          This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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                          Lost User
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                          I think you've already asked this question[^] in the Q&A long back.

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                            I think you've already asked this question[^] in the Q&A long back.

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                            Nagy Vilmos
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                            [0] This ain't a question. [1] Same component, different issue.

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                            • N Nagy Vilmos

                              This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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                              Class1, Class2, Class3 and Class4?

                              while (!working) {
                              Reboot();
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                              • N Nagy Vilmos

                                This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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                                S Douglas
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                                Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                Go on then, trivialise the whole thing

                                Okay... - Broker = Bar - Service = Bartender - Agent = Waiter - Process = Patron


                                Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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                                • N Nagy Vilmos

                                  This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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                                  BillWoodruff
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                                  Broker => MessageDispatcher Service => MessageManager Agent => MessageHandler Process => MessageTemplate

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                                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                                    This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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                                    jschell
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                                    Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                    I'm building a component that is basically a message broker....I just think the names could be better

                                    Like perhaps that it shouldn't be called a "Component"?

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                                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                                      This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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                                      Marc Clifton
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                                      I'm surprised no one came up with this: Broker -> Pimp Service -> Yeah, you keep that as Service Agent -> John Process -> [...] Job Marc

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                                        You should read The Name of The Wind - By Patrick Rothfuss[^]. The magicians like "Naming" things as they have a talent in the naming of things.

                                        Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil

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                                        Isn't it a great feeling when you find the true name of your graphics processor and it responds when you summon it? :)

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                                        • N Nagy Vilmos

                                          This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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                                          Member 9063556
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                                          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                          Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

                                          I'm curious as to know why you chose "Ringo" (Translates to Apple as far as I recall) as a name. Basically, Naming conventions need to be clear and concise. When naming Variables that might be confusing I comment them in. BillWoodruff seems to have the same idea I have with naming my handles.

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                                          Broker => MessageDispatcher Service => MessageManager Agent => MessageHandler Process => MessageTemplate

                                          As you can see, it's simple and concise and it actually works. Easy to understand variables = easy to understand variables.

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