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  • N Nagy Vilmos

    This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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    Nagy Vilmos wrote:

    John, Paul, George and Ringo

    Not very exntensible. I used characters from "The Love Boat" once, and eventually had to add parts of the ship.

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      This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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      Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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      And I thought I'm the only idiot spending half of his development time on making self explanatory names... I'm glad not to be alone... But really, Service-Agency-Agent-Process can be good...

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      • N Nagy Vilmos

        This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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        Tim Carmichael
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        Nagy Vilmos wrote:

        Broker

        Prime Minister

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        • N Nagy Vilmos

          This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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          Tim Carmichael
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          Broker -> Prime Minister Service -> HouseOfLords Agent -> Mayor Process -> CivilServants Tim

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          • N Nagy Vilmos

            This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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            Broker - Dispatcher ? Service - Handler ? Agent - Dalek ?

            ~RaGE();

            I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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              Broker -> Prime Minister Service -> HouseOfLords Agent -> Mayor Process -> CivilServants Tim

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              Nagy Vilmos
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              Seriously? The PM doesn't control the House of Commons let alone the Lords. But this gives me an idea - Possessor, Dominus, Exactoris & Servus.

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                Broker - Dispatcher ? Service - Handler ? Agent - Dalek ?

                ~RaGE();

                I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                Nagy Vilmos
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                Rage wrote:

                Agent - Dalek ?

                Are you mad? And leave me open to paying royalties to *him*!

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                  Broker - Dispatcher ? Service - Handler ? Agent - Dalek ?

                  ~RaGE();

                  I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                  CCCholic

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                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                    Seriously? The PM doesn't control the House of Commons let alone the Lords. But this gives me an idea - Possessor, Dominus, Exactoris & Servus.

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                    Tim Carmichael
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                    Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                    Seriously?

                    Of course not serious! But it did provide a logical progression that could be understand, even if it was only a metaphor.

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                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                      This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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                      Lost User
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                      I think you've already asked this question[^] in the Q&A long back.

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                        I think you've already asked this question[^] in the Q&A long back.

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                        Nagy Vilmos
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                        [0] This ain't a question. [1] Same component, different issue.

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                        • N Nagy Vilmos

                          This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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                          Class1, Class2, Class3 and Class4?

                          while (!working) {
                          Reboot();
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                          • N Nagy Vilmos

                            This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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                            Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                            Go on then, trivialise the whole thing

                            Okay... - Broker = Bar - Service = Bartender - Agent = Waiter - Process = Patron


                            Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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                            • N Nagy Vilmos

                              This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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                              Broker => MessageDispatcher Service => MessageManager Agent => MessageHandler Process => MessageTemplate

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                              • N Nagy Vilmos

                                This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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                                jschell
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                                Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                I'm building a component that is basically a message broker....I just think the names could be better

                                Like perhaps that it shouldn't be called a "Component"?

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                                • N Nagy Vilmos

                                  This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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                                  Marc Clifton
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                                  I'm surprised no one came up with this: Broker -> Pimp Service -> Yeah, you keep that as Service Agent -> John Process -> [...] Job Marc

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                                  • S Simon Lee Shugar

                                    You should read The Name of The Wind - By Patrick Rothfuss[^]. The magicians like "Naming" things as they have a talent in the naming of things.

                                    Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil

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                                    Isn't it a great feeling when you find the true name of your graphics processor and it responds when you summon it? :)

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                                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                                      This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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                                      Member 9063556
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                                      Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                      Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

                                      I'm curious as to know why you chose "Ringo" (Translates to Apple as far as I recall) as a name. Basically, Naming conventions need to be clear and concise. When naming Variables that might be confusing I comment them in. BillWoodruff seems to have the same idea I have with naming my handles.

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                                      Broker => MessageDispatcher Service => MessageManager Agent => MessageHandler Process => MessageTemplate

                                      As you can see, it's simple and concise and it actually works. Easy to understand variables = easy to understand variables.

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                                      • N Nagy Vilmos

                                        This is really bugging me. I'm building a component that is basically a message broker. The broker has a set of services, which in turn have agents for different messages that are actually dealt with by plug in process components. I'm happy with the way it sits together, but I am not happy with the names I have: - Broker = top level component. It was called Server, but that doesn't sit with Service - Service = logical grouping of message agents that can talk directly to each other [there is a separate protocol for out of server interfacing] - Agent = handles individual messages including their state - Process = plug-ins to process different messages; this is where all the business logic lives. I just think the names could be better. The whole thing is set up with config, so these names become important; well I think they do. Any suggestions? Go on then, trivialise the whole thing and suggest I just call them John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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                                        It bugs all of us. No matter if you chose wisely or flippantly, 4 years down the track, you are always going to say WTF or WTE, when doing your recognisance on your old code.

                                        "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

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                                          It bugs all of us. No matter if you chose wisely or flippantly, 4 years down the track, you are always going to say WTF or WTE, when doing your recognisance on your old code.

                                          "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

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                                          grralph1 wrote:

                                          WTE

                                          Sorry, not familiar with WTE ... or is that meant to be so?

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