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    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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    Pretend you go to an online store, the UX is decent (well I designed it so decent is being nice, its probably bad), you add to cart, you are happy and satisfied so you click Checkout and you are redirected to another domain with a similar but different UX ... would you Bounce? Background, naively I signed up for Shopify. They stubbornly refuse to let you edit the shopping cart experience. Not to mention that they use their own SSL certificate on their own domain for most plans so they have to redirect. So it is a one-two punch. Ugh. I am a little committed now because I have let the project go on so long without finishing but after I get it up and running; high priority is to dump them. Not worth it! Actually, the experience has taught me a lot. All shopping carts suck. They all have their own language to learn, they all want you to do things in their predecided form, and they all have limits that any programmer could blast past. Kind of makes you wish there was a shopping cart solution that did not offer any UX whatsoever. Just a collection of easy to use JS API's to call from your host.

    Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

      Pretend you go to an online store, the UX is decent (well I designed it so decent is being nice, its probably bad), you add to cart, you are happy and satisfied so you click Checkout and you are redirected to another domain with a similar but different UX ... would you Bounce? Background, naively I signed up for Shopify. They stubbornly refuse to let you edit the shopping cart experience. Not to mention that they use their own SSL certificate on their own domain for most plans so they have to redirect. So it is a one-two punch. Ugh. I am a little committed now because I have let the project go on so long without finishing but after I get it up and running; high priority is to dump them. Not worth it! Actually, the experience has taught me a lot. All shopping carts suck. They all have their own language to learn, they all want you to do things in their predecided form, and they all have limits that any programmer could blast past. Kind of makes you wish there was a shopping cart solution that did not offer any UX whatsoever. Just a collection of easy to use JS API's to call from your host.

      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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      Pete OHanlon
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      Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

      would you Bounce?

      Darn tooting I would. I would assume, at this point, that there was a scam or phishing attack going on here and leave.

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      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

        Pretend you go to an online store, the UX is decent (well I designed it so decent is being nice, its probably bad), you add to cart, you are happy and satisfied so you click Checkout and you are redirected to another domain with a similar but different UX ... would you Bounce? Background, naively I signed up for Shopify. They stubbornly refuse to let you edit the shopping cart experience. Not to mention that they use their own SSL certificate on their own domain for most plans so they have to redirect. So it is a one-two punch. Ugh. I am a little committed now because I have let the project go on so long without finishing but after I get it up and running; high priority is to dump them. Not worth it! Actually, the experience has taught me a lot. All shopping carts suck. They all have their own language to learn, they all want you to do things in their predecided form, and they all have limits that any programmer could blast past. Kind of makes you wish there was a shopping cart solution that did not offer any UX whatsoever. Just a collection of easy to use JS API's to call from your host.

        Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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        Lost User
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        I'd probably bounce, yes.

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        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

          Pretend you go to an online store, the UX is decent (well I designed it so decent is being nice, its probably bad), you add to cart, you are happy and satisfied so you click Checkout and you are redirected to another domain with a similar but different UX ... would you Bounce? Background, naively I signed up for Shopify. They stubbornly refuse to let you edit the shopping cart experience. Not to mention that they use their own SSL certificate on their own domain for most plans so they have to redirect. So it is a one-two punch. Ugh. I am a little committed now because I have let the project go on so long without finishing but after I get it up and running; high priority is to dump them. Not worth it! Actually, the experience has taught me a lot. All shopping carts suck. They all have their own language to learn, they all want you to do things in their predecided form, and they all have limits that any programmer could blast past. Kind of makes you wish there was a shopping cart solution that did not offer any UX whatsoever. Just a collection of easy to use JS API's to call from your host.

          Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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          Tim Carmichael
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          Bounce, yes. OT: for the sake of readability, when using terms such as UX, spell out what it is the first time, then use the short form in the rest of the original post. While it may be common practice to use short forms, not all users necessarily understand all of the short forms used.

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          • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

            Pretend you go to an online store, the UX is decent (well I designed it so decent is being nice, its probably bad), you add to cart, you are happy and satisfied so you click Checkout and you are redirected to another domain with a similar but different UX ... would you Bounce? Background, naively I signed up for Shopify. They stubbornly refuse to let you edit the shopping cart experience. Not to mention that they use their own SSL certificate on their own domain for most plans so they have to redirect. So it is a one-two punch. Ugh. I am a little committed now because I have let the project go on so long without finishing but after I get it up and running; high priority is to dump them. Not worth it! Actually, the experience has taught me a lot. All shopping carts suck. They all have their own language to learn, they all want you to do things in their predecided form, and they all have limits that any programmer could blast past. Kind of makes you wish there was a shopping cart solution that did not offer any UX whatsoever. Just a collection of easy to use JS API's to call from your host.

            Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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            Pualee
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            Probably most of us would bounce... But would your audience? Non tech people don't know the difference between the https and http in the url... and they don't know why public computers are dangerous places for inputing credit card details. So, go ahead and find another solution, but don't let that scare you from finishing the project (unless there really is a security hole).

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            • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

              Pretend you go to an online store, the UX is decent (well I designed it so decent is being nice, its probably bad), you add to cart, you are happy and satisfied so you click Checkout and you are redirected to another domain with a similar but different UX ... would you Bounce? Background, naively I signed up for Shopify. They stubbornly refuse to let you edit the shopping cart experience. Not to mention that they use their own SSL certificate on their own domain for most plans so they have to redirect. So it is a one-two punch. Ugh. I am a little committed now because I have let the project go on so long without finishing but after I get it up and running; high priority is to dump them. Not worth it! Actually, the experience has taught me a lot. All shopping carts suck. They all have their own language to learn, they all want you to do things in their predecided form, and they all have limits that any programmer could blast past. Kind of makes you wish there was a shopping cart solution that did not offer any UX whatsoever. Just a collection of easy to use JS API's to call from your host.

              Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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              Vark111
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              Doesn't bother me these days, because it's so common. In fact, if I went to a small vendor website and I saw they were trying to roll their own shopping cart, I'd be more likely to bounce because of a fear that they wouldn't secure my CC details properly. Lots of folks send you to another site for the actual shopping cart. First one that springs to my mind is Jetbrains. And yes, the shopping cart looks like ass.

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              • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                Pretend you go to an online store, the UX is decent (well I designed it so decent is being nice, its probably bad), you add to cart, you are happy and satisfied so you click Checkout and you are redirected to another domain with a similar but different UX ... would you Bounce? Background, naively I signed up for Shopify. They stubbornly refuse to let you edit the shopping cart experience. Not to mention that they use their own SSL certificate on their own domain for most plans so they have to redirect. So it is a one-two punch. Ugh. I am a little committed now because I have let the project go on so long without finishing but after I get it up and running; high priority is to dump them. Not worth it! Actually, the experience has taught me a lot. All shopping carts suck. They all have their own language to learn, they all want you to do things in their predecided form, and they all have limits that any programmer could blast past. Kind of makes you wish there was a shopping cart solution that did not offer any UX whatsoever. Just a collection of easy to use JS API's to call from your host.

                Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                Dan Neely
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                With the exception of a pay with paypal (or amazon or google) button I'd bounce.

                Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                • T Tim Carmichael

                  Bounce, yes. OT: for the sake of readability, when using terms such as UX, spell out what it is the first time, then use the short form in the rest of the original post. While it may be common practice to use short forms, not all users necessarily understand all of the short forms used.

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                  Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                  Know your audience. This a programming forum after all. Besides if I bothered to adhere to A.P. or Chicago style guides I would never write anything. Personally I hate going to 5 from 1. I think from 1 to 5 is so much better.

                  Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                    Bounce, yes. OT: for the sake of readability, when using terms such as UX, spell out what it is the first time, then use the short form in the rest of the original post. While it may be common practice to use short forms, not all users necessarily understand all of the short forms used.

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                    Forogar
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                    What did you mean by "OT"? You might need to spell this one out!

                    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                      Pretend you go to an online store, the UX is decent (well I designed it so decent is being nice, its probably bad), you add to cart, you are happy and satisfied so you click Checkout and you are redirected to another domain with a similar but different UX ... would you Bounce? Background, naively I signed up for Shopify. They stubbornly refuse to let you edit the shopping cart experience. Not to mention that they use their own SSL certificate on their own domain for most plans so they have to redirect. So it is a one-two punch. Ugh. I am a little committed now because I have let the project go on so long without finishing but after I get it up and running; high priority is to dump them. Not worth it! Actually, the experience has taught me a lot. All shopping carts suck. They all have their own language to learn, they all want you to do things in their predecided form, and they all have limits that any programmer could blast past. Kind of makes you wish there was a shopping cart solution that did not offer any UX whatsoever. Just a collection of easy to use JS API's to call from your host.

                      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                      Joe Woodbury
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                      That happened to me recently. I bailed, did some research, figured out what they were doing and finished my purchase. However, had the item in question been readily available on Amazon or New Egg, I would have paid a little more instead.

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                      • F Forogar

                        What did you mean by "OT"? You might need to spell this one out!

                        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                        _Damian S_
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                        :laugh: :laugh: Well played!!

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                        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                          Pretend you go to an online store, the UX is decent (well I designed it so decent is being nice, its probably bad), you add to cart, you are happy and satisfied so you click Checkout and you are redirected to another domain with a similar but different UX ... would you Bounce? Background, naively I signed up for Shopify. They stubbornly refuse to let you edit the shopping cart experience. Not to mention that they use their own SSL certificate on their own domain for most plans so they have to redirect. So it is a one-two punch. Ugh. I am a little committed now because I have let the project go on so long without finishing but after I get it up and running; high priority is to dump them. Not worth it! Actually, the experience has taught me a lot. All shopping carts suck. They all have their own language to learn, they all want you to do things in their predecided form, and they all have limits that any programmer could blast past. Kind of makes you wish there was a shopping cart solution that did not offer any UX whatsoever. Just a collection of easy to use JS API's to call from your host.

                          Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          I Have No Idea What You Are Talking AbouT

                          You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                          • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                            Pretend you go to an online store, the UX is decent (well I designed it so decent is being nice, its probably bad), you add to cart, you are happy and satisfied so you click Checkout and you are redirected to another domain with a similar but different UX ... would you Bounce? Background, naively I signed up for Shopify. They stubbornly refuse to let you edit the shopping cart experience. Not to mention that they use their own SSL certificate on their own domain for most plans so they have to redirect. So it is a one-two punch. Ugh. I am a little committed now because I have let the project go on so long without finishing but after I get it up and running; high priority is to dump them. Not worth it! Actually, the experience has taught me a lot. All shopping carts suck. They all have their own language to learn, they all want you to do things in their predecided form, and they all have limits that any programmer could blast past. Kind of makes you wish there was a shopping cart solution that did not offer any UX whatsoever. Just a collection of easy to use JS API's to call from your host.

                            Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                            Simon ORiordan from UK
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                            I don't worry as long as they have the magic PayPal bullet.

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                            • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                              Pretend you go to an online store, the UX is decent (well I designed it so decent is being nice, its probably bad), you add to cart, you are happy and satisfied so you click Checkout and you are redirected to another domain with a similar but different UX ... would you Bounce? Background, naively I signed up for Shopify. They stubbornly refuse to let you edit the shopping cart experience. Not to mention that they use their own SSL certificate on their own domain for most plans so they have to redirect. So it is a one-two punch. Ugh. I am a little committed now because I have let the project go on so long without finishing but after I get it up and running; high priority is to dump them. Not worth it! Actually, the experience has taught me a lot. All shopping carts suck. They all have their own language to learn, they all want you to do things in their predecided form, and they all have limits that any programmer could blast past. Kind of makes you wish there was a shopping cart solution that did not offer any UX whatsoever. Just a collection of easy to use JS API's to call from your host.

                              Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                              Rage
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                              I would bounce.

                              ~RaGE();

                              I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what is used to.

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                              • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                Pretend you go to an online store, the UX is decent (well I designed it so decent is being nice, its probably bad), you add to cart, you are happy and satisfied so you click Checkout and you are redirected to another domain with a similar but different UX ... would you Bounce? Background, naively I signed up for Shopify. They stubbornly refuse to let you edit the shopping cart experience. Not to mention that they use their own SSL certificate on their own domain for most plans so they have to redirect. So it is a one-two punch. Ugh. I am a little committed now because I have let the project go on so long without finishing but after I get it up and running; high priority is to dump them. Not worth it! Actually, the experience has taught me a lot. All shopping carts suck. They all have their own language to learn, they all want you to do things in their predecided form, and they all have limits that any programmer could blast past. Kind of makes you wish there was a shopping cart solution that did not offer any UX whatsoever. Just a collection of easy to use JS API's to call from your host.

                                Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                                Harley L Pebley
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                                Before you switch sites, just let them know. That way it's expected, you haven't been hacked (at least this isn't evidence of it :-)) and they understand you're using a third party payment system.

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                                • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                  Pretend you go to an online store, the UX is decent (well I designed it so decent is being nice, its probably bad), you add to cart, you are happy and satisfied so you click Checkout and you are redirected to another domain with a similar but different UX ... would you Bounce? Background, naively I signed up for Shopify. They stubbornly refuse to let you edit the shopping cart experience. Not to mention that they use their own SSL certificate on their own domain for most plans so they have to redirect. So it is a one-two punch. Ugh. I am a little committed now because I have let the project go on so long without finishing but after I get it up and running; high priority is to dump them. Not worth it! Actually, the experience has taught me a lot. All shopping carts suck. They all have their own language to learn, they all want you to do things in their predecided form, and they all have limits that any programmer could blast past. Kind of makes you wish there was a shopping cart solution that did not offer any UX whatsoever. Just a collection of easy to use JS API's to call from your host.

                                  Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                                  RafagaX
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                                  If it's a payment system that I know and trust (ahem PayPal, ahem), then no, otherwise i'll run scared.

                                  CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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