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I am becoming more of a curmudgeon every day

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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Marc Clifton wrote:

    the velveteen gloves are coming off!

    Hopefully, that's to make room to fit the knuckle-dusters to protect your poor, aged, osteoporosis-raddled hands... :laugh:

    Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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    OriginalGriff wrote:

    that's to make room to fit the knuckle-dusters to protect your poor, aged, osteoporosis-raddled hands..

    My hands and fingers are quite nimble, thank you. ;) Marc

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    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

      I'm not sure about 'stolen'...I used to code COBOL and Mainframe Assembly using almost the same ideas as in today 'modern' development ideas... But for sure it has a bitter taste how Microsoft try to 'sell' ideas form the public domain as their great invention... About JavaScript: I can't see that web developers are complaining about it - is a capable language...The fact is that web was sold as a quick development platform (which can be true), but true and powerful JavaScript need more learning, so most code is a bit clumsily...

      I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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      Marc Clifton
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      Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

      bout JavaScript: I can't see that web developers are complaining about it - is a capable language...

      I was referring a to recent Insider News post. BTW, I got very distracted (including going out of town for the last 5 days) so I'll be updating that article tomorrow! Marc

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      • J Jeremy Falcon

        Marc Clifton wrote:

        Microsoft makes big noises over "new" ideas that are actually stolen from the Rails community.

        I'm actually glad they "borrowed" the concept of database migrations. What amazes me is Microsoft pushing git like crack cocaine. I think it's great, just still amazed.

        Jeremy Falcon

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        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

        I'm actually glad they "borrowed" the concept of database migrations.

        Yes, database migrations are really neat.

        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

        What amazes me is Microsoft pushing git like crack cocaine. I think it's great, just still amazed.

        I am slooowly, arthritically, coming to have some respect for Git and learning how to think-git. And of course, realizing that, like with any tool, it's the skill of the wielder rather than the capabilities of the tool that make all the difference. ;) Marc

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        • M Marc Clifton

          Microsoft makes big noises over "new" ideas that are actually stolen from the Rails community. The benefits of TDD are yet again argued, incorrectly. People complain about the web and Javascript but admit nothing can be done about it. God, I'm getting more and more cynical every day. So, fair warning folks, the velveteen gloves are coming off! Marc

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          Mike Hankey
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          Are you becoming a curmudgeon or just don't put up with as much bullshit as you used to?

          Along with Antimatter and Dark Matter they've discovered the existence of Doesn't Matter which appears to have no effect on the universe whatsoever! Rich Tennant 5th Wave

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          • M Marc Clifton

            Microsoft makes big noises over "new" ideas that are actually stolen from the Rails community. The benefits of TDD are yet again argued, incorrectly. People complain about the web and Javascript but admit nothing can be done about it. God, I'm getting more and more cynical every day. So, fair warning folks, the velveteen gloves are coming off! Marc

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            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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            Marc Clifton wrote:

            velveteen gloves

            were those made from the velveteen rabbit? Did you kill him?

            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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            • M Marc Clifton

              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

              I'm actually glad they "borrowed" the concept of database migrations.

              Yes, database migrations are really neat.

              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

              What amazes me is Microsoft pushing git like crack cocaine. I think it's great, just still amazed.

              I am slooowly, arthritically, coming to have some respect for Git and learning how to think-git. And of course, realizing that, like with any tool, it's the skill of the wielder rather than the capabilities of the tool that make all the difference. ;) Marc

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              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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              Marc Clifton wrote:

              capabilities of the tool

              That matters too. Try doing source control with a hammer.

              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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              • M Marc Clifton

                Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                I'm actually glad they "borrowed" the concept of database migrations.

                Yes, database migrations are really neat.

                Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                What amazes me is Microsoft pushing git like crack cocaine. I think it's great, just still amazed.

                I am slooowly, arthritically, coming to have some respect for Git and learning how to think-git. And of course, realizing that, like with any tool, it's the skill of the wielder rather than the capabilities of the tool that make all the difference. ;) Marc

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                Marc Clifton wrote:

                I am slooowly, arthritically, coming to have some respect for Git and learning how to think-git.

                It's got a steep learning curve, and despite the fact I'm still using Subversion, the distributed model works and works well if you want to get some work done while on an airplane or taking work home and don't have access to a corporate network, aren't ready commit changes but still want to back up the code, etc.

                Jeremy Falcon

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                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                  My motto in life: Life is a vale of tears, then you die. It's about the most cynical motto you can have, making everything joyful in comparison! Just stick to those words, life is a vale of tears, and you'll come to enjoy Microsoft, TDD, JavaScript and ultimately life soon enough :D

                  It's an OO world.

                  public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                  {
                  public void DoWork()
                  {
                  throw new NotSupportedException();
                  }
                  }

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                  Super Lloyd
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                  Personally I have what I think is a simpler version: "Life is bitch, then you die" ! ;P

                  My programming get away... The Blog... DirectX for WinRT/C# since 2013! Taking over the world since 1371!

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                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    capabilities of the tool

                    That matters too. Try doing source control with a hammer.

                    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                    Jorgen Andersson
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                    You need a chisel and a slab of stone too. Just a hammer isn't enough.

                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                    • S Super Lloyd

                      Personally I have what I think is a simpler version: "Life is bitch, then you die" ! ;P

                      My programming get away... The Blog... DirectX for WinRT/C# since 2013! Taking over the world since 1371!

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                      Sander Rossel
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                      Basically the same thing, but vale of tears sounds so much more dramatical ;)

                      It's an OO world.

                      public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                      {
                      public void DoWork()
                      {
                      throw new NotSupportedException();
                      }
                      }

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        Less of the "sonny" - have you no respect for us seniors? :-D

                        Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                        AHAA !!!! When i used to call you Respected Sir, you used to shout at me :laugh: (just kidding). Well OG i tell you the youth of today dont think the way we used to(i mean respect) Just relax , you are the GRIFF!!!! and the original one:cool:. Thanks a ton, Rahul

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          Microsoft makes big noises over "new" ideas that are actually stolen from the Rails community. The benefits of TDD are yet again argued, incorrectly. People complain about the web and Javascript but admit nothing can be done about it. God, I'm getting more and more cynical every day. So, fair warning folks, the velveteen gloves are coming off! Marc

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                          Nagy Vilmos
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                          Just for the title, very well done. Curmudgeoning is the state to which all the best should aspire. :thumbsup:

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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            Microsoft makes big noises over "new" ideas that are actually stolen from the Rails community. The benefits of TDD are yet again argued, incorrectly. People complain about the web and Javascript but admit nothing can be done about it. God, I'm getting more and more cynical every day. So, fair warning folks, the velveteen gloves are coming off! Marc

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                            Rage
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                            I would not worry unless a .45 starts materializing at your side or you start swearing uncontrolled about Telstra.

                            ~RaGE();

                            I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                            • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                              Are you becoming a curmudgeon or just don't put up with as much bullshit as you used to?

                              Along with Antimatter and Dark Matter they've discovered the existence of Doesn't Matter which appears to have no effect on the universe whatsoever! Rich Tennant 5th Wave

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                              BaTTy Koda
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                              I was starting to get very curmudgeony, and when I realized that I was, and that it was from all of th BS... I decided not to take any more BS. Much happier now!

                              PEACE! and COWABUMNGA-LUJAH, DUDE!

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                              • B BaTTy Koda

                                I was starting to get very curmudgeony, and when I realized that I was, and that it was from all of th BS... I decided not to take any more BS. Much happier now!

                                PEACE! and COWABUMNGA-LUJAH, DUDE!

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                                Mike Hankey
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                                Funny how that works isn't it? The less stress the happier you are.

                                Along with Antimatter and Dark Matter they've discovered the existence of Doesn't Matter which appears to have no effect on the universe whatsoever! Rich Tennant 5th Wave

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                  I'm actually glad they "borrowed" the concept of database migrations.

                                  Yes, database migrations are really neat.

                                  Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                  What amazes me is Microsoft pushing git like crack cocaine. I think it's great, just still amazed.

                                  I am slooowly, arthritically, coming to have some respect for Git and learning how to think-git. And of course, realizing that, like with any tool, it's the skill of the wielder rather than the capabilities of the tool that make all the difference. ;) Marc

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                                  What I hate about Git, and then I'll shut up about it, is the feeling that it intentionally mocks the new user. I mean, what kind of sadist came up with the idea that some switches use a single hyphen and others need two? And the "automatic merges" I see in the GitHub and Atlassian apps pushing back code changes that came down in the pull but I didn't touch? Why does it do that? The motto of the true curmudgeon, "Bah!"

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                                  • J Jorgen Andersson

                                    You need a chisel and a slab of stone too. Just a hammer isn't enough.

                                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                                    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                    LOL. :-D :thumbsup:

                                    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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