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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    FLAME On!

    Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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    JMK NI
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    IMHO Vi has a few issues, but emacs is broken. :wq

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      IMHO Vi has a few issues, but emacs is broken. :wq

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      OriginalGriff
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      I could never remember if it was :x or :q that did "save and exit" and inevitably got it wrong. :swearlots at that point.

      Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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        IMHO Vi has a few issues, but emacs is broken. :wq

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        hairy_hats
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        Can't you just open debug mode and run the compiler, debugger and coffee machine within EMACS?

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          I could never remember if it was :x or :q that did "save and exit" and inevitably got it wrong. :swearlots at that point.

          Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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          Argonia
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          Its always :q! :laugh:

          Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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            Can't you just open debug mode and run the compiler, debugger and coffee machine within EMACS?

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            Lost User
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            Maybe, but you could definitely run a very big telescope! When I was working for the RGO one of the developers wrote a control system using Emacs as the front end.

            One day I aspire to having a signature.

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            • A Argonia

              Its always :q! :laugh:

              Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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              OriginalGriff
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              The fun was typing ':' followed by your name and guessing what it would do... :laugh:

              Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                I don''t know how to quit VI...:thumbsup:

                Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                Dan Neely
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                Oh that's easy. See the red X in the top right corner of your SSH window? You just click that to exit VI. :laugh:

                Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                  Oh that's easy. See the red X in the top right corner of your SSH window? You just click that to exit VI. :laugh:

                  Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                  "Window"? "Window"? I used VI in the pre-DOS days! We didn't have so many cycles to spare we could afford graphics! Heck, we could barely run the damn compiler. I died in two world wars for the likes of you, bringbackNationalInsurance,that'swhatIsay!CoupleofyearsinaBuildingSociety,doyouaworldofgood!

                  Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    "Window"? "Window"? I used VI in the pre-DOS days! We didn't have so many cycles to spare we could afford graphics! Heck, we could barely run the damn compiler. I died in two world wars for the likes of you, bringbackNationalInsurance,that'swhatIsay!CoupleofyearsinaBuildingSociety,doyouaworldofgood!

                    Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                    In that case, find the button on the case with overlapping "1" and "0" characters. Then either press (if a momentary switch) or flip (if a toggle) it.

                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                      In that case, find the button on the case with overlapping "1" and "0" characters. Then either press (if a momentary switch) or flip (if a toggle) it.

                      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                      Ummm... but the computer is a mainframe in another building behind physical security and I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to flip that switch.

                      You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                        Ummm... but the computer is a mainframe in another building behind physical security and I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to flip that switch.

                        You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                        Dan Neely
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                        There're physical power lines between the grid and the building. Borrow a backhoe to disconnect them. You can do the same for the connection to the sites emergency generator. This will trigger a reboot as soon as the mainframe's UPS dies. If the site has a generator this will probably only take a few minutes since the generator would be the primary backup. Sheesh! Why are you making this so difficult? :-\

                        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          I don''t know how to quit VI...:thumbsup:

                          Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                          Mike Winiberg
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                          Oh Yes! Nice mix of editor commands in there TECO$for$the$win$ex$$

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                          • P PIEBALDconsult

                            Ummm... but the computer is a mainframe in another building behind physical security and I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to flip that switch.

                            You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                            greldak
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                            switch to using the terminal next to it - your session will time out in half an hour. When that happens vi will be closed. Or you could call the operators and tell them your session has been disconnected - can they kill it

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                              Ummm... but the computer is a mainframe in another building behind physical security and I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to flip that switch.

                              You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                              jRaskell1
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                              Have you tried? You'll never know for sure unless you try.

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                              • N Nagy Vilmos

                                EMACS is better than vi!

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                                Brad Stiles
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                                Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                EMACS is better than vi!

                                I can't take credit for this one: What is The Number of the Beast? vi vi vi

                                Currently reading: "The Prince", by Nicolo Machiavelli

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                                  Developer edition.[^]

                                  Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                  stgagnon
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                                  I bet that is very amusing. Blocked by corporate web filter. :(

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                                    Developer edition.[^]

                                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                    Fabio Franco
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                                    I could never quit VI, sou I bought another computer and never fired it up again.

                                    To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson ---- Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia

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                                      Developer edition.[^]

                                      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                      RafagaX
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                                      I hope this never gets to my boss, otherwise, he will be able to fully understand what i'm telling him... ;P

                                      CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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