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  • J JMK NI

    IMHO Vi has a few issues, but emacs is broken. :wq

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    OriginalGriff
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    I could never remember if it was :x or :q that did "save and exit" and inevitably got it wrong. :swearlots at that point.

    Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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    • J JMK NI

      IMHO Vi has a few issues, but emacs is broken. :wq

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      hairy_hats
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      Can't you just open debug mode and run the compiler, debugger and coffee machine within EMACS?

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        I could never remember if it was :x or :q that did "save and exit" and inevitably got it wrong. :swearlots at that point.

        Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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        Argonia
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        Its always :q! :laugh:

        Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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          Can't you just open debug mode and run the compiler, debugger and coffee machine within EMACS?

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          Lost User
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          Maybe, but you could definitely run a very big telescope! When I was working for the RGO one of the developers wrote a control system using Emacs as the front end.

          One day I aspire to having a signature.

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          • A Argonia

            Its always :q! :laugh:

            Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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            OriginalGriff
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            The fun was typing ':' followed by your name and guessing what it would do... :laugh:

            Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              I don''t know how to quit VI...:thumbsup:

              Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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              Dan Neely
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              Oh that's easy. See the red X in the top right corner of your SSH window? You just click that to exit VI. :laugh:

              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                Oh that's easy. See the red X in the top right corner of your SSH window? You just click that to exit VI. :laugh:

                Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                "Window"? "Window"? I used VI in the pre-DOS days! We didn't have so many cycles to spare we could afford graphics! Heck, we could barely run the damn compiler. I died in two world wars for the likes of you, bringbackNationalInsurance,that'swhatIsay!CoupleofyearsinaBuildingSociety,doyouaworldofgood!

                Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  "Window"? "Window"? I used VI in the pre-DOS days! We didn't have so many cycles to spare we could afford graphics! Heck, we could barely run the damn compiler. I died in two world wars for the likes of you, bringbackNationalInsurance,that'swhatIsay!CoupleofyearsinaBuildingSociety,doyouaworldofgood!

                  Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                  In that case, find the button on the case with overlapping "1" and "0" characters. Then either press (if a momentary switch) or flip (if a toggle) it.

                  Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                    In that case, find the button on the case with overlapping "1" and "0" characters. Then either press (if a momentary switch) or flip (if a toggle) it.

                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                    Ummm... but the computer is a mainframe in another building behind physical security and I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to flip that switch.

                    You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                      Ummm... but the computer is a mainframe in another building behind physical security and I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to flip that switch.

                      You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                      Dan Neely
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                      There're physical power lines between the grid and the building. Borrow a backhoe to disconnect them. You can do the same for the connection to the sites emergency generator. This will trigger a reboot as soon as the mainframe's UPS dies. If the site has a generator this will probably only take a few minutes since the generator would be the primary backup. Sheesh! Why are you making this so difficult? :-\

                      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        I don''t know how to quit VI...:thumbsup:

                        Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                        Mike Winiberg
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                        Oh Yes! Nice mix of editor commands in there TECO$for$the$win$ex$$

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                        • P PIEBALDconsult

                          Ummm... but the computer is a mainframe in another building behind physical security and I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to flip that switch.

                          You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                          greldak
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                          switch to using the terminal next to it - your session will time out in half an hour. When that happens vi will be closed. Or you could call the operators and tell them your session has been disconnected - can they kill it

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                          • P PIEBALDconsult

                            Ummm... but the computer is a mainframe in another building behind physical security and I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to flip that switch.

                            You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                            jRaskell1
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                            Have you tried? You'll never know for sure unless you try.

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                            • N Nagy Vilmos

                              EMACS is better than vi!

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                              Brad Stiles
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                              Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                              EMACS is better than vi!

                              I can't take credit for this one: What is The Number of the Beast? vi vi vi

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                                Developer edition.[^]

                                Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                stgagnon
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                                I bet that is very amusing. Blocked by corporate web filter. :(

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                                  Developer edition.[^]

                                  Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                  Fabio Franco
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                                  I could never quit VI, sou I bought another computer and never fired it up again.

                                  To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson ---- Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia

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                                    Developer edition.[^]

                                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                    RafagaX
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                                    I hope this never gets to my boss, otherwise, he will be able to fully understand what i'm telling him... ;P

                                    CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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