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    Fast, lightweight IDE, can't do without.

    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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    Tomz_KV
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    Can you run/execute code within the environment (NotePad++)?

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      Microsoft discontinued a lot of development tools/platforms over the years. The one that has a big impact on our company is the Active Server Page. We still have a lot of "Pages" that need maintenance from time to time without the development environment - Visual InterDev. It is a pain. What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?

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      Marc Clifton
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      Tomz_KV wrote:

      What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?

      Oh please, don't get me excited! Marc

      Latest Article - APOD Scraper

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        Tomz_KV wrote:

        What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?

        Oh please, don't get me excited! Marc

        Latest Article - APOD Scraper

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        Dan Neely
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        If you're looking for a cold shower, I'll suggest MS reverses course again and discontinues the classic desktop completely. :omg:

        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          If you're looking for a cold shower, I'll suggest MS reverses course again and discontinues the classic desktop completely. :omg:

          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          Marc Clifton
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          Dan Neely wrote:

          I'll suggest MS reverses course again and discontinues the classic desktop completely.

          Well, wouldn't the Linux world rejoice then, haha! Marc

          Latest Article - APOD Scraper

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            Tomz_KV wrote:

            What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?

            Oh please, don't get me excited! Marc

            Latest Article - APOD Scraper

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            Mycroft Holmes
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            Yeah my first thought was "all of the above" and I have not even started using w8.

            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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              Can you run/execute code within the environment (NotePad++)?

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              Peter Adam
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              http://samueldotj.blogspot.hu/2007/10/notepad-as-ide.html[^] http://www.blitzbasic.com/Community/posts.php?topic=97975[^] etc...

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                Microsoft discontinued a lot of development tools/platforms over the years. The one that has a big impact on our company is the Active Server Page. We still have a lot of "Pages" that need maintenance from time to time without the development environment - Visual InterDev. It is a pain. What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?

                TOMZ_KV

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                Peter Adam
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                Windows 8 is perfect for novices and experts, the middle suffers. It is amazing to see people furiously clicking through menus instead of learning a few key combos. Try Win+X anywhere. Win+X,U,U[^] for those who doesn't have an ATX power supply Try Win+<1..9,0> on the desktop (Win7, too) Win+R (Win7, too) Win+arrows (Win7, too) Win+[Shift]+Tab (Win7, too)

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                  Windows 8 is perfect for novices and experts, the middle suffers. It is amazing to see people furiously clicking through menus instead of learning a few key combos. Try Win+X anywhere. Win+X,U,U[^] for those who doesn't have an ATX power supply Try Win+<1..9,0> on the desktop (Win7, too) Win+R (Win7, too) Win+arrows (Win7, too) Win+[Shift]+Tab (Win7, too)

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                  Great tips.

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                    Microsoft discontinued a lot of development tools/platforms over the years. The one that has a big impact on our company is the Active Server Page. We still have a lot of "Pages" that need maintenance from time to time without the development environment - Visual InterDev. It is a pain. What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?

                    TOMZ_KV

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                    Colborne_Greg
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                    Entity Framework will be gone shortly SharePoint is a permanent service Windows 8 is a permanent paradigm shift

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                      Windows 8 is perfect for novices and experts, the middle suffers. It is amazing to see people furiously clicking through menus instead of learning a few key combos. Try Win+X anywhere. Win+X,U,U[^] for those who doesn't have an ATX power supply Try Win+<1..9,0> on the desktop (Win7, too) Win+R (Win7, too) Win+arrows (Win7, too) Win+[Shift]+Tab (Win7, too)

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                      Colborne_Greg
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                      The only people that suffer with windows 8 are self proclaimed computer experts, people in the middle have no trouble with windows 8, not does anything that has the ability to learn something.

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                        Entity Framework will be gone shortly SharePoint is a permanent service Windows 8 is a permanent paradigm shift

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                        Colborne_Greg wrote:

                        Entity Framework will be gone shortly

                        Are you serious about EF? Version 6 was released not long ago and 7 is on the way.

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                          Microsoft discontinued a lot of development tools/platforms over the years. The one that has a big impact on our company is the Active Server Page. We still have a lot of "Pages" that need maintenance from time to time without the development environment - Visual InterDev. It is a pain. What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?

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                          patbob
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                          Tomz_KV wrote:

                          need maintenance from time to time without the development environment - Visual InterDev

                          I'm confused.. why can't you continue to use the old IDE? Was it cloud based? Did they revoke the license to it? Did you lose the installation media?

                          We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                            Tomz_KV wrote:

                            need maintenance from time to time without the development environment - Visual InterDev

                            I'm confused.. why can't you continue to use the old IDE? Was it cloud based? Did they revoke the license to it? Did you lose the installation media?

                            We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                            Tomz_KV
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                            Lost the installation media. It is not available in the MSDN subscription download. Thanks,

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                              Microsoft discontinued a lot of development tools/platforms over the years. The one that has a big impact on our company is the Active Server Page. We still have a lot of "Pages" that need maintenance from time to time without the development environment - Visual InterDev. It is a pain. What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?

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                              JimmyRopes
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                              Tomz_KV wrote:

                              What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?

                              All of the above. :~

                              **_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.

                              I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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                                Lost the installation media. It is not available in the MSDN subscription download. Thanks,

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                                Did you try to find a downloadable version?

                                **_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.

                                I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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                                  Did you try to find a downloadable version?

                                  **_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.

                                  I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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                                  I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                                  Unfortunately no. I googled it and followed a number of links but they led to nowhere.

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                                    Tomz_KV wrote:

                                    What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?

                                    All of the above. :~

                                    **_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.

                                    I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
                                    The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                                    I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                                    Tomz_KV
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                                    Microsoft promotes SharePoint heavily. I did some serious development in it with InfoPath. Unfortunately, InfoPath is gone. Have not heard anything about the future of SharePoint.

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                                      Microsoft promotes SharePoint heavily. I did some serious development in it with InfoPath. Unfortunately, InfoPath is gone. Have not heard anything about the future of SharePoint.

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                                      JimmyRopes
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                                      Just joking. :-D SharePoint is a good platform but InfoPath left a lot to be desired, namely since it stored all attachments in the form there was a limit to the number/size of attachments that could be stored. Another problem came if you changed the form, all prior saved forms needed to be saved with the new prototype form. Additionally all workflows started with the previous forms were broken. It was never something to be used in production. You say it is gone now. Good riddance. X|

                                      **_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.

                                      I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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                                        Unfortunately no. I googled it and followed a number of links but they led to nowhere.

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                                        Have you asked around to see if someone can give or sell you their old installation media for it? I probably used to have a copy at my old job I'd have just sent you, but its long gone now.

                                        We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                                          Have you asked around to see if someone can give or sell you their old installation media for it? I probably used to have a copy at my old job I'd have just sent you, but its long gone now.

                                          We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                                          Tomz_KV
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                                          I did but not extensively. Since I do not develop any new functionality but only do "fixes", I have been ok with using VS 2012. Thanks for your suggestions.

                                          TOMZ_KV

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