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  • M Marc Clifton

    Tomz_KV wrote:

    What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?

    Oh please, don't get me excited! Marc

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    Mycroft Holmes
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    Yeah my first thought was "all of the above" and I have not even started using w8.

    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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      Can you run/execute code within the environment (NotePad++)?

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      Peter Adam
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      http://samueldotj.blogspot.hu/2007/10/notepad-as-ide.html[^] http://www.blitzbasic.com/Community/posts.php?topic=97975[^] etc...

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      • T Tomz_KV

        Microsoft discontinued a lot of development tools/platforms over the years. The one that has a big impact on our company is the Active Server Page. We still have a lot of "Pages" that need maintenance from time to time without the development environment - Visual InterDev. It is a pain. What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?

        TOMZ_KV

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        Peter Adam
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        Windows 8 is perfect for novices and experts, the middle suffers. It is amazing to see people furiously clicking through menus instead of learning a few key combos. Try Win+X anywhere. Win+X,U,U[^] for those who doesn't have an ATX power supply Try Win+<1..9,0> on the desktop (Win7, too) Win+R (Win7, too) Win+arrows (Win7, too) Win+[Shift]+Tab (Win7, too)

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          Windows 8 is perfect for novices and experts, the middle suffers. It is amazing to see people furiously clicking through menus instead of learning a few key combos. Try Win+X anywhere. Win+X,U,U[^] for those who doesn't have an ATX power supply Try Win+<1..9,0> on the desktop (Win7, too) Win+R (Win7, too) Win+arrows (Win7, too) Win+[Shift]+Tab (Win7, too)

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          Tomz_KV
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          Great tips.

          TOMZ_KV

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          • T Tomz_KV

            Microsoft discontinued a lot of development tools/platforms over the years. The one that has a big impact on our company is the Active Server Page. We still have a lot of "Pages" that need maintenance from time to time without the development environment - Visual InterDev. It is a pain. What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?

            TOMZ_KV

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            Colborne_Greg
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            Entity Framework will be gone shortly SharePoint is a permanent service Windows 8 is a permanent paradigm shift

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              Windows 8 is perfect for novices and experts, the middle suffers. It is amazing to see people furiously clicking through menus instead of learning a few key combos. Try Win+X anywhere. Win+X,U,U[^] for those who doesn't have an ATX power supply Try Win+<1..9,0> on the desktop (Win7, too) Win+R (Win7, too) Win+arrows (Win7, too) Win+[Shift]+Tab (Win7, too)

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              Colborne_Greg
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              The only people that suffer with windows 8 are self proclaimed computer experts, people in the middle have no trouble with windows 8, not does anything that has the ability to learn something.

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                Entity Framework will be gone shortly SharePoint is a permanent service Windows 8 is a permanent paradigm shift

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                Tomz_KV
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                Colborne_Greg wrote:

                Entity Framework will be gone shortly

                Are you serious about EF? Version 6 was released not long ago and 7 is on the way.

                TOMZ_KV

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                • T Tomz_KV

                  Microsoft discontinued a lot of development tools/platforms over the years. The one that has a big impact on our company is the Active Server Page. We still have a lot of "Pages" that need maintenance from time to time without the development environment - Visual InterDev. It is a pain. What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?

                  TOMZ_KV

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                  patbob
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                  Tomz_KV wrote:

                  need maintenance from time to time without the development environment - Visual InterDev

                  I'm confused.. why can't you continue to use the old IDE? Was it cloud based? Did they revoke the license to it? Did you lose the installation media?

                  We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                    Tomz_KV wrote:

                    need maintenance from time to time without the development environment - Visual InterDev

                    I'm confused.. why can't you continue to use the old IDE? Was it cloud based? Did they revoke the license to it? Did you lose the installation media?

                    We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                    Lost the installation media. It is not available in the MSDN subscription download. Thanks,

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                    • T Tomz_KV

                      Microsoft discontinued a lot of development tools/platforms over the years. The one that has a big impact on our company is the Active Server Page. We still have a lot of "Pages" that need maintenance from time to time without the development environment - Visual InterDev. It is a pain. What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?

                      TOMZ_KV

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                      JimmyRopes
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                      Tomz_KV wrote:

                      What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?

                      All of the above. :~

                      **_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.

                      I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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                      • T Tomz_KV

                        Lost the installation media. It is not available in the MSDN subscription download. Thanks,

                        TOMZ_KV

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                        Did you try to find a downloadable version?

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                        I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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                          Did you try to find a downloadable version?

                          **_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.

                          I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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                          Tomz_KV
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                          Unfortunately no. I googled it and followed a number of links but they led to nowhere.

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                            Tomz_KV wrote:

                            What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?

                            All of the above. :~

                            **_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.

                            I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
                            The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                            I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                            Tomz_KV
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                            Microsoft promotes SharePoint heavily. I did some serious development in it with InfoPath. Unfortunately, InfoPath is gone. Have not heard anything about the future of SharePoint.

                            TOMZ_KV

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                              Microsoft promotes SharePoint heavily. I did some serious development in it with InfoPath. Unfortunately, InfoPath is gone. Have not heard anything about the future of SharePoint.

                              TOMZ_KV

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                              JimmyRopes
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                              Just joking. :-D SharePoint is a good platform but InfoPath left a lot to be desired, namely since it stored all attachments in the form there was a limit to the number/size of attachments that could be stored. Another problem came if you changed the form, all prior saved forms needed to be saved with the new prototype form. Additionally all workflows started with the previous forms were broken. It was never something to be used in production. You say it is gone now. Good riddance. X|

                              **_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.

                              I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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                              I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                                Unfortunately no. I googled it and followed a number of links but they led to nowhere.

                                TOMZ_KV

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                                Have you asked around to see if someone can give or sell you their old installation media for it? I probably used to have a copy at my old job I'd have just sent you, but its long gone now.

                                We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                                  Have you asked around to see if someone can give or sell you their old installation media for it? I probably used to have a copy at my old job I'd have just sent you, but its long gone now.

                                  We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                                  Tomz_KV
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                                  I did but not extensively. Since I do not develop any new functionality but only do "fixes", I have been ok with using VS 2012. Thanks for your suggestions.

                                  TOMZ_KV

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                                    Just joking. :-D SharePoint is a good platform but InfoPath left a lot to be desired, namely since it stored all attachments in the form there was a limit to the number/size of attachments that could be stored. Another problem came if you changed the form, all prior saved forms needed to be saved with the new prototype form. Additionally all workflows started with the previous forms were broken. It was never something to be used in production. You say it is gone now. Good riddance. X|

                                    **_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.

                                    I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
                                    The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                                    I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                                    Tomz_KV
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                                    Microsoft announced the termination of InfoPath in Jan. 2014: http://blogs.office.com/2014/01/31/update-on-infopath-and-sharepoint-forms/[^].

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                                      Microsoft announced the termination of InfoPath in Jan. 2014: http://blogs.office.com/2014/01/31/update-on-infopath-and-sharepoint-forms/[^].

                                      TOMZ_KV

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                                      JimmyRopes
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                                      Micro$oft realized InfoPath was broken and had to terminate them. X| It is interesting that they pulled the plug on InfoPath before they had a replacement in place. Let's see what they come up with next. :confused:

                                      **_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.

                                      I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
                                      The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                                      I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                                      • T Tomz_KV

                                        Colborne_Greg wrote:

                                        Entity Framework will be gone shortly

                                        Are you serious about EF? Version 6 was released not long ago and 7 is on the way.

                                        TOMZ_KV

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                                        Colborne_Greg
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                                        its a redundant system

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                                          Microsoft discontinued a lot of development tools/platforms over the years. The one that has a big impact on our company is the Active Server Page. We still have a lot of "Pages" that need maintenance from time to time without the development environment - Visual InterDev. It is a pain. What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?

                                          TOMZ_KV

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                                          CAReed
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                                          Just finally reading my email for last week... I'm just curious about this thread: Why are complaining about classic ASP after it had been replaced by ASP.NET twelve years ago? Still, it's still available for use. In fact, it should be available for the next eight years, as its current lifetime is based on the tenth anniversary of Windows 8.

                                          Christopher Reed "The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."

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