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  • P patbob

    Tomz_KV wrote:

    need maintenance from time to time without the development environment - Visual InterDev

    I'm confused.. why can't you continue to use the old IDE? Was it cloud based? Did they revoke the license to it? Did you lose the installation media?

    We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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    Lost the installation media. It is not available in the MSDN subscription download. Thanks,

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      Microsoft discontinued a lot of development tools/platforms over the years. The one that has a big impact on our company is the Active Server Page. We still have a lot of "Pages" that need maintenance from time to time without the development environment - Visual InterDev. It is a pain. What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?

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      JimmyRopes
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      Tomz_KV wrote:

      What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?

      All of the above. :~

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      I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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        Lost the installation media. It is not available in the MSDN subscription download. Thanks,

        TOMZ_KV

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        Did you try to find a downloadable version?

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        I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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          Did you try to find a downloadable version?

          **_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.

          I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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          I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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          Unfortunately no. I googled it and followed a number of links but they led to nowhere.

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            Tomz_KV wrote:

            What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?

            All of the above. :~

            **_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.

            I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
            The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
            I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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            Microsoft promotes SharePoint heavily. I did some serious development in it with InfoPath. Unfortunately, InfoPath is gone. Have not heard anything about the future of SharePoint.

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              Microsoft promotes SharePoint heavily. I did some serious development in it with InfoPath. Unfortunately, InfoPath is gone. Have not heard anything about the future of SharePoint.

              TOMZ_KV

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              Just joking. :-D SharePoint is a good platform but InfoPath left a lot to be desired, namely since it stored all attachments in the form there was a limit to the number/size of attachments that could be stored. Another problem came if you changed the form, all prior saved forms needed to be saved with the new prototype form. Additionally all workflows started with the previous forms were broken. It was never something to be used in production. You say it is gone now. Good riddance. X|

              **_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.

              I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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              I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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              • T Tomz_KV

                Unfortunately no. I googled it and followed a number of links but they led to nowhere.

                TOMZ_KV

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                Have you asked around to see if someone can give or sell you their old installation media for it? I probably used to have a copy at my old job I'd have just sent you, but its long gone now.

                We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                • P patbob

                  Have you asked around to see if someone can give or sell you their old installation media for it? I probably used to have a copy at my old job I'd have just sent you, but its long gone now.

                  We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                  I did but not extensively. Since I do not develop any new functionality but only do "fixes", I have been ok with using VS 2012. Thanks for your suggestions.

                  TOMZ_KV

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                    Just joking. :-D SharePoint is a good platform but InfoPath left a lot to be desired, namely since it stored all attachments in the form there was a limit to the number/size of attachments that could be stored. Another problem came if you changed the form, all prior saved forms needed to be saved with the new prototype form. Additionally all workflows started with the previous forms were broken. It was never something to be used in production. You say it is gone now. Good riddance. X|

                    **_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.

                    I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
                    The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                    I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                    Microsoft announced the termination of InfoPath in Jan. 2014: http://blogs.office.com/2014/01/31/update-on-infopath-and-sharepoint-forms/[^].

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                      Microsoft announced the termination of InfoPath in Jan. 2014: http://blogs.office.com/2014/01/31/update-on-infopath-and-sharepoint-forms/[^].

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                      Micro$oft realized InfoPath was broken and had to terminate them. X| It is interesting that they pulled the plug on InfoPath before they had a replacement in place. Let's see what they come up with next. :confused:

                      **_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.

                      I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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                      • T Tomz_KV

                        Colborne_Greg wrote:

                        Entity Framework will be gone shortly

                        Are you serious about EF? Version 6 was released not long ago and 7 is on the way.

                        TOMZ_KV

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                        its a redundant system

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                        • T Tomz_KV

                          Microsoft discontinued a lot of development tools/platforms over the years. The one that has a big impact on our company is the Active Server Page. We still have a lot of "Pages" that need maintenance from time to time without the development environment - Visual InterDev. It is a pain. What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?

                          TOMZ_KV

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                          CAReed
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                          Just finally reading my email for last week... I'm just curious about this thread: Why are complaining about classic ASP after it had been replaced by ASP.NET twelve years ago? Still, it's still available for use. In fact, it should be available for the next eight years, as its current lifetime is based on the tenth anniversary of Windows 8.

                          Christopher Reed "The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."

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                            Just finally reading my email for last week... I'm just curious about this thread: Why are complaining about classic ASP after it had been replaced by ASP.NET twelve years ago? Still, it's still available for use. In fact, it should be available for the next eight years, as its current lifetime is based on the tenth anniversary of Windows 8.

                            Christopher Reed "The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."

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                            I was not complaining but just stating the difficulty of maintaining it. asp.net is a nice replacement but Microsoft did not provide a way to upgrade asp to asp.net. Basically it is "discontinued".

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                              I was not complaining but just stating the difficulty of maintaining it. asp.net is a nice replacement but Microsoft did not provide a way to upgrade asp to asp.net. Basically it is "discontinued".

                              TOMZ_KV

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                              Actually, in the Page directive for a Web Form page, you can set the AspCompat attribute to true. This provides support for VB6 components within a Web Form. Essentially, you could add a Page directive to an ASP page with AspCompat set to true and your classic ASP runs through the ASP.NET engine once you change the file extension from .asp to .aspx. Granted, this doesn't help in switching over to ASP.NET, but it's a starting point for moving a classic ASP site to ASP.NET. Regardless, classic ASP has not been "discontinued". It is still a viable solution in its own right, at least for the next eight years. Now, if we're talking about discontinued platforms, let's talk about FoxPro....

                              Christopher Reed "The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."

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                                Actually, in the Page directive for a Web Form page, you can set the AspCompat attribute to true. This provides support for VB6 components within a Web Form. Essentially, you could add a Page directive to an ASP page with AspCompat set to true and your classic ASP runs through the ASP.NET engine once you change the file extension from .asp to .aspx. Granted, this doesn't help in switching over to ASP.NET, but it's a starting point for moving a classic ASP site to ASP.NET. Regardless, classic ASP has not been "discontinued". It is still a viable solution in its own right, at least for the next eight years. Now, if we're talking about discontinued platforms, let's talk about FoxPro....

                                Christopher Reed "The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."

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                                Thanks for the great insight!

                                TOMZ_KV

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