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  • M Marc Clifton

    DaveAuld wrote:

    I suppose it is only sad if you used it and liked it, or if you were one of the devs that spent many hours developing it.

    Exactly, and I have great empathy for both users and those devs. It sucks when that happens. I do wonder why it didn't take off (though certainly I'm a contributor to the problem, as all of my recent articles have the source code hosted on GitHub.) Marc

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    DaveAuld
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    I'm still relatively new to github and was looking to potentially use workspaces for my private repositories and was actually looking at how you handle multiple repositories, but got distracted by other stuff so never followed through on actually starting to use workspaces. Glad I didn't now!

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    • D DaveAuld

      So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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      Maximilien
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      Buy StackOverflow.

      I'd rather be phishing!

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      • D DaveAuld

        So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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        Tim Carmichael
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        Rather than ask "What's next?", ask yourself this: Why do I use CodeProject? How would I like to use CodeProject? What do I not use on CodeProject? My answers: I use CodeProject to find solutions to issues I have; I frequently find what I am looking for in arcticles. The forums I frequent are VB and Database; where I can, I will assist. I would like to see a reputation system that is based on articles and coding forums only - I shouldn't be increasing my reputation by posting inane whatever in the Lounge or any other non-coding forum. I have tried to use QA, but gave up because of the incessant 'Help plz', and other such vitriol. Tim

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        • D DaveAuld

          So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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          Mike Hankey
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          I agree with those and will add; A better tablet interface. Maybe I'm not doing something I should be doing but when I first come to CP on my tablet everything is desktop size and I have to scroll all the way to the bottom to change to ?full site? I think is the button label.

          Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9.

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          • P Pete OHanlon

            One thing that would definitely help here is to expand the pool of people who can edit/move/remove messages. The pool is a lot greater in QA than it is in the forums.

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            Rage
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            I have proposed my humble contribution several times, but am still not wise enough for it :sigh:

            ~RaGE();

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            • D DaveAuld

              So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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              Mark_Wallace
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              Well, given the time in Canadia, right now, I'd say the next thing is lunch.

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              • D DaveAuld

                So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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                Abhinav S
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                Oops I never realised they had gone. TV I though was a good idea.

                Mobile Apps - Sound Meter | Color Analyzer | SMBC | Football Doodles

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  In a lot of ways, that would be an improvement: focus the site back on being about Quality rather than Quantity. I still feel (as did Luc Pattyn) that QA was a mistake - an attempt to "out-SO" SO which detracted from the programming forums and the article quality and has become largely a "do my homework" hangout. I'm pretty sure there are a couple of members holding down full time jobs purely by posting QA questions! :laugh:

                  You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                  Luc Pattyn
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                  My being mentioned alert just fired. You again, Griff?? :)

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                  • D DaveAuld

                    Both Look and Feel and policy. There is just so much rubbish in there. I would like to just go in there with the big delete button.

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                    Thanks7872
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                    DaveAuld wrote:

                    There is just so much rubbish in there

                    Because.. 1) Even homework questions are getting answered. 2) It happens sometime that OP posted off topic post and we suggest the right forum using comment. In that case, OP can delete the question and post it over the right forum. But what happens is, some members (believe me, being a part of rep hunting clearly) posts something as a solution and hence even if OP wants, he/she can't delete that question. And if OP is a newbie, the solution will get accepted which is totally misleading as per as QA is concerned. 3) There are some members who copies the title of the post, paste it in Google and post first N links as answer. And thats their only pattern. IMO, it won't add much value to CP just because it can't be the case all the time that OP failed to search it using one of the search engines. There are thousands of views regarding this, but the ultimate solution can be achieved only through some strict actions.

                    "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly"- SoMad

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                    • A Agent__007

                      Emptying exponentially growing Bugs and Suggestions queue? :~ Coding Quiz and Challenges? :~ [JOKE] Ability to encash the reputation points. ;P [/JOKE]

                      Whether I think I can, or think I can't, I am always bloody right!

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                      Agent__007 wrote:

                      Ability to encash the reputation points

                      CP server will crash within first 10 mins :laugh:

                      "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly"- SoMad

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                      • L Luc Pattyn

                        My being mentioned alert just fired. You again, Griff?? :)

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                        You still using Mention dot com? I dropped it as it was giving too many false positives (even with a relatively uncommon name like mine). How are you doing sir? :-D

                        You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          You still using Mention dot com? I dropped it as it was giving too many false positives (even with a relatively uncommon name like mine). How are you doing sir? :-D

                          You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                          Luc Pattyn
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                          Hello Sir, I'm doing just fine, thank you. No, not mention.com; I rely on my built-in radar. So, CP terminated ::Workspaces? The CP search engine not digesting colons, the name alone looked like a mistake... :) (*) per your request[^]

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                            Hello Sir, I'm doing just fine, thank you. No, not mention.com; I rely on my built-in radar. So, CP terminated ::Workspaces? The CP search engine not digesting colons, the name alone looked like a mistake... :) (*) per your request[^]

                            Luc Pattyn [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

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                            OriginalGriff
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                            Workspaces and TV. Don't think either of them made any money, and they pulled resources away from the main site. Just my guess though.

                            You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

                            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                              pwasser wrote:

                              Are you referring to look and feel or policy?

                              How about a test to prove you can think for yourself and locate Google before you can post a question?

                              You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                              Moykn
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                              Well, when someone post a question on Q&A you could just get the title and redirect him to Let Me Google That For You[^].

                              Sorry, my english is bad beta!

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                              • D DaveAuld

                                Both Look and Feel and policy. There is just so much rubbish in there. I would like to just go in there with the big delete button.

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                                Chris Maunder
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                                So is the solution to make it easier to close questions?

                                cheers Chris Maunder

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                                  Increased mobile development presence = a move away from MS centric thinking (that will take time, certainly) I don't think workspaces or TV were a bad idea but I think they would be better marketed under a completely different banner. If I had been starting a new project at home, I would have used workspaces, but that didn't eventuate (I guess I should be glad I didn't, now!) Same with TV - I was thinking about enhancing my Android articles with some video, and where better to host it? On the API front- why? What functionality to you want to provide the CP itself doesn't (or is it that you could do it better?) The thing with an API is, how are CP going to make money out of it? I'd love to write an app that posts 'codez pleaz' to Q&A - but I'm not sure Chris et al would like that! An offline article editor would be good - but I don't find the existing online one too bad. Image editing online? Why? Everyone has access to better tools to edit images than would be provided online, surely? I'd like to see a regular CP Crossword (Hey! Chris! You reading this? Remember about three years ago you said you'd get back to me :)) with prizes,and a guarantee that DD wont write the clues. I love the idea of the article competitions - I'd like to see that continue. Something in Q&A - I don't know what, but I just pretty much keep away these days - between the crappy questions and the snarky answers it's an unpleasant place to be! Mobile - get the site working on mobile so I can respond to posts on the train.

                                  PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                                  Chris Maunder
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                                  Let's do the crossword. How do you want to start?

                                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                                    Let's do the crossword. How do you want to start?

                                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                                    Forogar
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                                    Well, to be different, some of the clues might need people to write code in order to get the answer? Just a suggestion.

                                    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                      The problem I see with that is that even abstracted, it would have to lead back to your actual profile (for verification if nothing else) - which means that a pottenial employer not only gets a handy link to all your messages, but gets to see that you (and indeed I) am a Master Debator... :-O

                                      You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                                      Forogar
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                                      Quote:

                                      gets to see that you (and indeed I) am a Master Debator...

                                      Yeah! I like to keep my Master Debating a little more private, thanks!

                                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                      • C Chris Maunder

                                        So is the solution to make it easier to close questions?

                                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                                        DaveAuld
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                                        Those who currently have delete priviliges could easily go wild and just keep clearing out dross. I don't think simply closing the questions is sufficient either. There needs to be a mechanism where the originator learns why the questions have been closed etc. Perhaps an imporved entry form with more descriptive section headers; e.g. Title: provide a brief summary of the problem Tags: tag the relevant language / technologies / platform you are using e.g. c# Windows SQL Question or Problem: What is it you are trying to achieve, what have you tried so far. Include any relevant code snippet and and error messages that you may have recevied. The character count box characters remaining rather than counting up. Also still not convinced on the layout of the qs and solutions / comments etc. just doesn't feel right.

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                                        • L Luc Pattyn

                                          My being mentioned alert just fired. You again, Griff?? :)

                                          Luc Pattyn [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

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                                          DaveAuld
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                                          Hello stranger!

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