PHP, once the web's favorite programming language, is on the wane
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I occasionally get called on to create small websites...usually I install Joomla on Linux hosting because that's the best bang for the buck...Joomla is entirely written in PHP with tons of community developed plugins also written in PHP...it's a whole eco-system that has done nothing but grow. I know my way around PHP...occasionally I have to tweak or create a plugin for it...it's not my favourite programming language but it has an almost unbeatable combination of free stuff running on cheaper Linux hosting that is very hard to beat.
DaveX86 wrote:
it has an almost unbeatable combination of free stuff running on cheaper Linux hosting that is very hard to beat.
100% in agreement. Very unlikely this beast will be slain anytime soon. The RoR and Node.js folk don't seem to believe in CMS systems ("Just create it again from scratch"), and there really isn't a comparable ASP.NET CMS worth installing.[1] [1] Yes, I know of Umbraco, Orchard, and DotNetNuke. Umbraco I'll put on the 'maybe' shelf, but when compared to WordPress, Joomla, Drupal, ExpressionEngine, etc (very etc.) they're neither as easy to install, nor as complete/extensible. Plus the usual hosting price differences between Windows and Linux just make it worse.
TTFN - Kent
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DaveX86 wrote:
it has an almost unbeatable combination of free stuff running on cheaper Linux hosting that is very hard to beat.
100% in agreement. Very unlikely this beast will be slain anytime soon. The RoR and Node.js folk don't seem to believe in CMS systems ("Just create it again from scratch"), and there really isn't a comparable ASP.NET CMS worth installing.[1] [1] Yes, I know of Umbraco, Orchard, and DotNetNuke. Umbraco I'll put on the 'maybe' shelf, but when compared to WordPress, Joomla, Drupal, ExpressionEngine, etc (very etc.) they're neither as easy to install, nor as complete/extensible. Plus the usual hosting price differences between Windows and Linux just make it worse.
TTFN - Kent
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DaveX86 wrote:
it has an almost unbeatable combination of free stuff running on cheaper Linux hosting that is very hard to beat.
100% in agreement. Very unlikely this beast will be slain anytime soon. The RoR and Node.js folk don't seem to believe in CMS systems ("Just create it again from scratch"), and there really isn't a comparable ASP.NET CMS worth installing.[1] [1] Yes, I know of Umbraco, Orchard, and DotNetNuke. Umbraco I'll put on the 'maybe' shelf, but when compared to WordPress, Joomla, Drupal, ExpressionEngine, etc (very etc.) they're neither as easy to install, nor as complete/extensible. Plus the usual hosting price differences between Windows and Linux just make it worse.
TTFN - Kent
OT - If you are in the business of comparing CMS - http://www.sitefinity.com/[^]
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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DaveX86 wrote:
it has an almost unbeatable combination of free stuff running on cheaper Linux hosting that is very hard to beat.
100% in agreement. Very unlikely this beast will be slain anytime soon. The RoR and Node.js folk don't seem to believe in CMS systems ("Just create it again from scratch"), and there really isn't a comparable ASP.NET CMS worth installing.[1] [1] Yes, I know of Umbraco, Orchard, and DotNetNuke. Umbraco I'll put on the 'maybe' shelf, but when compared to WordPress, Joomla, Drupal, ExpressionEngine, etc (very etc.) they're neither as easy to install, nor as complete/extensible. Plus the usual hosting price differences between Windows and Linux just make it worse.
TTFN - Kent
Kent Sharkey wrote:
ASP.NET CMS worth installing
ever heard of ADX Studio[^]? Clearly not. It's damn good. And is very comparable[^] to Joomla.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
Kent Sharkey wrote:
ASP.NET CMS worth installing
ever heard of ADX Studio[^]? Clearly not. It's damn good. And is very comparable[^] to Joomla.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
Kent Sharkey wrote:
ASP.NET CMS worth installing
ever heard of ADX Studio[^]? Clearly not. It's damn good. And is very comparable[^] to Joomla.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert EinsteinAs Jadooti says below. A requirement for Dynamics definitely puts it kind of out of comparison with WordPress et al
TTFN - Kent
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As Jadooti says below. A requirement for Dynamics definitely puts it kind of out of comparison with WordPress et al
TTFN - Kent
You don't
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
ahmed zahmed wrote:
And is very comparable[^] to Joomla.
Not if you need Dynamics to use it!
You don't
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
Kent Sharkey wrote:
ASP.NET CMS worth installing
ever heard of ADX Studio[^]? Clearly not. It's damn good. And is very comparable[^] to Joomla.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
You don't
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein?! Then why do they call it Adxstudio Portals for Microsoft Dynamics CRM, and have
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Supercharge Microsoft Dynamics CRM into a web-based sales, services, support & social engagement application platform
on that page? If it doesn't need CRM, they're doing a pi... poor job at marketing it. Either way, at $595/month (or $10K/org), it would pay for a lot of WordPress/Joomla/whatnot customization.
TTFN - Kent
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You don't
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
Maybe you can link to the product you're referring to then, since both the ones I can find on their site specifically say they're for Dynamics.
hmmm. It wasn't that way when I was using it a few years ago. Hmmm, I take it back. :-O
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
?! Then why do they call it Adxstudio Portals for Microsoft Dynamics CRM, and have
Quote:
Supercharge Microsoft Dynamics CRM into a web-based sales, services, support & social engagement application platform
on that page? If it doesn't need CRM, they're doing a pi... poor job at marketing it. Either way, at $595/month (or $10K/org), it would pay for a lot of WordPress/Joomla/whatnot customization.
TTFN - Kent
hmmm. It wasn't that way when I was using it a few years ago. Hmmm, I take it back. :-O
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
Yeah, agreed. hmmm. It wasn't that way when I was using it a few years ago. Hmmm, I take it back. :-O
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
hmmm. It wasn't that way when I was using it a few years ago. Hmmm, I take it back. :-O
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert EinsteinThey probably just bolted themselves to that beast so they could charge an extra couple of zeros ;)
TTFN - Kent
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Wow, I've seem big headers on web pages before but that's gone beyond a joke. Even on my Portrait mode, 1080x1920 monitor I have to scroll a whole darn screen to begin reading the article, all because some ejit thought I'd like to see part of a blue elephant (I suspect its cropped - can't be bothered to move it to another monitor to check) and a tiny picture of the author. Truly awful design.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.
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Wow, I've seem big headers on web pages before but that's gone beyond a joke. Even on my Portrait mode, 1080x1920 monitor I have to scroll a whole darn screen to begin reading the article, all because some ejit thought I'd like to see part of a blue elephant (I suspect its cropped - can't be bothered to move it to another monitor to check) and a tiny picture of the author. Truly awful design.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.
They're channeling (possibly using, can't check from work) Bootstrap[^]; a web framework designed by scroll wheel vendors, RSI doctors, and metered internet providers to boost their revenue levels by requiring enormous amounts of scrolling to find any content.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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They're channeling (possibly using, can't check from work) Bootstrap[^]; a web framework designed by scroll wheel vendors, RSI doctors, and metered internet providers to boost their revenue levels by requiring enormous amounts of scrolling to find any content.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote:
They're channeling (possibly using
Using, no - just checked myself. Channeling, definitely. :) That header graphic + Title text takes up exactly one full-screen maximized browser's worth of real estate on a 1920x1080 monitor. X|
It takes up one full screen on any monitor. At home it does on both my 2560x1600 and 1200x1600 screens; the latter just gets a heavily width cropped version. I didn't look closely enough to see if I was getting a ~1500px tall image, or if a smaller one was being stretched. Giant screens of graphical crap with only a few words of text are the standard bootstrap blight, which was why I suspected it was committing the same crime. Bootstrap's like powerpoint only without the ability to quickly and easily jump cleanly between slides. :((
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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It takes up one full screen on any monitor. At home it does on both my 2560x1600 and 1200x1600 screens; the latter just gets a heavily width cropped version. I didn't look closely enough to see if I was getting a ~1500px tall image, or if a smaller one was being stretched. Giant screens of graphical crap with only a few words of text are the standard bootstrap blight, which was why I suspected it was committing the same crime. Bootstrap's like powerpoint only without the ability to quickly and easily jump cleanly between slides. :((
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
To be fair to bootstrap, everything we've been discussing here is really the bootstrap "Hero Unit" component. I've used bootstrap on a half dozen internal web sites now, and have not once used the Hero Unit. I do like the navbar, tables, and tab containers, though.
