Sexist, or not?
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You should probably have stopped before you started... ;P
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Maybe I'm just over-thinkin' it...
You're over thinking it. Snap out of it man and grab your balls. There are girly cars out there that chicks usually drive. Nothing wrong with cars tailored to chicks and some tailored to guys. People shouldn't be afraid to embrace their gender.
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
There are girly cars out there that chicks usually drive.
But a car show is about the uniqueness of, or modifications made to the car - not the owner of the car. Like I said, I understand the motivation, I'm just questioning whether or not its perpetuating the presumed inequality between the genders within a context where that inequality should be moot. I'm happy that there are women out there that want to participate, but expecting/advocating special treatment or recognition simply because they're women participating in a predominantly male hobby exhibits a misplaced sense of entitlement.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
This has nothing to do with sexual preference. It has to do with implied inequality with regards to a topic (car ownership) where gender really doesn't - and shouldn't, IMHO - matter. I happen to agree that women and men will never be the same as far as physical and physiological differences are concerned. Men can't have babies (they don't have the hips for it :) ). However, i do think women and men should be treated as equals in every way otherwise possible.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Quote:
Men can't have babies
Oh really? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c[^] ;P
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Men can't have babies
Oh really? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c[^] ;P
Seriously? You're citing a freakshow?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Seriously? You're citing a freakshow?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Sarcastically, yes.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
There are girly cars out there that chicks usually drive.
But a car show is about the uniqueness of, or modifications made to the car - not the owner of the car. Like I said, I understand the motivation, I'm just questioning whether or not its perpetuating the presumed inequality between the genders within a context where that inequality should be moot. I'm happy that there are women out there that want to participate, but expecting/advocating special treatment or recognition simply because they're women participating in a predominantly male hobby exhibits a misplaced sense of entitlement.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013You're being dramatic and over thinking it, reading WAAAAAAY to much into it. It's the analytical programmer in you. Been there done that myself. However, most women are tough little creatures and aren't nearly as sensitive as this, there are tons of chicks adult enough to laugh at the crap you're talking about man. It's a joke. Stop being so sensitive about it, that's the number one thing that annoys a real women (not an overgrown girl) with the IT type of guy.
Jeremy Falcon
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A local group is going to have a car show this weekend, and among the categories of cars are a few that are female-specific (i.e., "Best Female Car"). When I saw that, I thought, "oh good - they're trying toget more women nvolved in the hobby". And then I thought, "But are they implying that they think women can't compete at the same level as men in a car show?" I would bet that the vast majority of car show participants nowadays don't do any of the work on their own cars, so IMHO, the owner of the car - or the owner's gender - shouldn't matter. Maybe I'm just over-thinkin' it...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
"Best Female Car"
Only reminds me of red Beetles with black spots. And yet, Daisy Duke had that white Jeep...
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A local group is going to have a car show this weekend, and among the categories of cars are a few that are female-specific (i.e., "Best Female Car"). When I saw that, I thought, "oh good - they're trying toget more women nvolved in the hobby". And then I thought, "But are they implying that they think women can't compete at the same level as men in a car show?" I would bet that the vast majority of car show participants nowadays don't do any of the work on their own cars, so IMHO, the owner of the car - or the owner's gender - shouldn't matter. Maybe I'm just over-thinkin' it...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013In a whole other life I did a lot of restorations for people who wanted to have the car without the work so I would agree with you. What they could do is have a class for documented self-restoration. There will always be parts of the job that amateurs may not be good at or able to do but if they can show that they did the greater part of the job then that should garner more votes than a vehicle that was professionally restored.
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A local group is going to have a car show this weekend, and among the categories of cars are a few that are female-specific (i.e., "Best Female Car"). When I saw that, I thought, "oh good - they're trying toget more women nvolved in the hobby". And then I thought, "But are they implying that they think women can't compete at the same level as men in a car show?" I would bet that the vast majority of car show participants nowadays don't do any of the work on their own cars, so IMHO, the owner of the car - or the owner's gender - shouldn't matter. Maybe I'm just over-thinkin' it...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013I guess the idea behind it is same as that with women's chess tournaments. Historically, because it's a male dominated field, this allows women to get into tournaments, win some prizes, and encourage more participation from women. After a few years or decades of doing this, I assume they'd just do away with women specific versions (both for chess and for car competitions).
Regards, Nish
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All my cars have been female. Or at least, they have had female pet names given to them by Herself.
You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)
My '84 Chevrolet Chevette was named 'Bitch'.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Maybe I'm just over-thinkin' it...
You're over thinking it. Snap out of it man and grab your balls. There are girly cars out there that chicks usually drive. Nothing wrong with cars tailored to chicks and some tailored to guys. People shouldn't be afraid to embrace their gender.
Jeremy Falcon
People shouldn't be afraid to embrace their gender. - Jeremy Falcon I prefer to embrace persons of the opposite gender. :laugh:
