Oracle Sucks
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MehGerbil wrote:
How is this a billion dollar company?
By not investing thousands of dollars in developing a Fisher Price UI that everybody will anyway criticize and by relying on solid good'ol' command line ?
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Oracle's drivers and file system structure suck and I'd also love something like Management Studio for Oracle. X| But as the database is designed for other billion dollar companies, the command line tools are just fine. Admins can run them in scripts, in scheduled jobs at night ... instead of clicking through them again and again for ever virtual machine they have to install.
This statement is false.
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I suppose you still use DOS to navigate to files on your PC? Because if you're using Windows Explorer then that is 'Fisher Price' and much too easy for a serious professional to use.
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That is what I'm complaining about - the UI I'm trying to use is clunky and doesn't work. They're doing a terrible job of modernizing, IMHO. Why not just use DIP switches instead of the modern command line?
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I use TotalCommander :cool: Given, this is not DOS, but the design did not evolve since Win98.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Dip switch is old technology. Use the punch cards instead.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Oracle sucks. Oracle tools suck - they look like something out of the '90s - they want me to use the command line to install/uninstall stuff. How is this a billion dollar company? Even then the uninstall didn't work so I'm digging around in the registry because Oracle for .NET has so fragged VS2008 that I cannot even establish a SQL connection anymore. It really is a crappy product. Seriously, die in a fire.
Is the complaint only with the install/uninstall or it is generally usage of Oracle? So, has anyone developed a GUI interface for Oracle as a community project? I've used Oracle in the past, but not enough to really care one way or the other; wrote the queries I needed by hand and modified them only on occasion.
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We could use clay jars with rocks inside of them. Or we could use this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGkkyKZVzug[^]
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I suppose you still use DOS to navigate to files on your PC? Because if you're using Windows Explorer then that is 'Fisher Price' and much too easy for a serious professional to use.
MehGerbil wrote:
I suppose you still use DOS to navigate to files on your PC?
Often, but it depends on the task at hand. "Use the right tool for the right job." -- Scotty
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MehGerbil wrote:
I suppose you still use DOS to navigate to files on your PC?
Often, but it depends on the task at hand. "Use the right tool for the right job." -- Scotty
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If I haven't opened a command prompt window at least once on any given workday, I probably haven't accomplished much that day.
I always have at least one open, often more than one.
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Oracle's drivers and file system structure suck and I'd also love something like Management Studio for Oracle. X| But as the database is designed for other billion dollar companies, the command line tools are just fine. Admins can run them in scripts, in scheduled jobs at night ... instead of clicking through them again and again for ever virtual machine they have to install.
This statement is false.
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:omg: Some people have too much time on their hands.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.
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That is what I'm complaining about - the UI I'm trying to use is clunky and doesn't work. They're doing a terrible job of modernizing, IMHO. Why not just use DIP switches instead of the modern command line?
The command line is not outdated technology. In fact, it is still vastly superior to the point and click interface. See the immediate window in the VS-IDE, see Powershell, see Telnet. A trained user is also an order of magnitude faster typing the switches than someone navigating all kinds of Windows with expensive (and buggy!) controls. The only machine that does not come with a command-line is called a "games console".
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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The command line is not outdated technology. In fact, it is still vastly superior to the point and click interface. See the immediate window in the VS-IDE, see Powershell, see Telnet. A trained user is also an order of magnitude faster typing the switches than someone navigating all kinds of Windows with expensive (and buggy!) controls. The only machine that does not come with a command-line is called a "games console".
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
The only machine that does not come with a command-line is called a "games console".
Or a Mac -- but even they have a command line now don't they? I stil lhaven't seen one on my Droid yet either.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
The only machine that does not come with a command-line is called a "games console".
Or a Mac -- but even they have a command line now don't they? I stil lhaven't seen one on my Droid yet either.
It's not installed, so you have to do that yourself[^].
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]
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I suppose you still use DOS to navigate to files on your PC? Because if you're using Windows Explorer then that is 'Fisher Price' and much too easy for a serious professional to use.
I write all my code in notepad. I haven't touched a modern IDE in ages. :-\
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
The only machine that does not come with a command-line is called a "games console".
Or a Mac -- but even they have a command line now don't they? I stil lhaven't seen one on my Droid yet either.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
The only machine that does not come with a command-line is called a "games console".
Or a Mac -- but even they have a command line now don't they? I stil lhaven't seen one on my Droid yet either.
Pretty sure Mac's have had a command line or terminal option for a VERY long time. Maybe even from the beginning (1984). :~ UPDATE: I stand corrected. Some hard core Googling indicates that the terminal app didn't exist until OS X (1999).
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Pretty sure Mac's have had a command line or terminal option for a VERY long time. Maybe even from the beginning (1984). :~ UPDATE: I stand corrected. Some hard core Googling indicates that the terminal app didn't exist until OS X (1999).
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
I'm pretty sure my father's Mac II X| did not -- or maybe he just never let me get anywhere near it. I thought it was added when they went with OSX (or whatever it's called).