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  • R Rob Philpott

    That's cool. I like the idea of ID Cards a lot. They are not popular due to people's paranoia about liberty, government spying etc. But, in my wallet I have about 12 different Id cards. Some for banks, some for work, some for driving, some for my train. From a systems point of view, that sucks. Just have one and assign services to it. The benefits would be manyfold.

    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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    The benefits would be manyfold.

    ...until you lost it or had it stolen.

    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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      The benefits would be manyfold.

      ...until you lost it or had it stolen.

      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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      Well, yes there is that. But you can look at it the other way; Because people tend to keep their cards together when you lose your wallet you've got a lot of phone calls to make - this way only one. The hope would be also that through 'better' security/biometrics etc. it would be worth less in the hands of a thief.

      Regards, Rob Philpott.

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      • R Rob Philpott

        Well, yes there is that. But you can look at it the other way; Because people tend to keep their cards together when you lose your wallet you've got a lot of phone calls to make - this way only one. The hope would be also that through 'better' security/biometrics etc. it would be worth less in the hands of a thief.

        Regards, Rob Philpott.

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        Yeah. When they have a fingerprint reader on the card, which can be a little thicker since you only need to carry the one, and it only works when you are physically holding it, then I would think it was a good thing.

        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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          Yeah. When they have a fingerprint reader on the card, which can be a little thicker since you only need to carry the one, and it only works when you are physically holding it, then I would think it was a good thing.

          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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          Forogar wrote:

          When they have a fingerprint reader on the card,

          And you can't think of any individual in an entire nation that might not have a problem with a system that requires a finger?

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          • R Rob Philpott

            Well, yes there is that. But you can look at it the other way; Because people tend to keep their cards together when you lose your wallet you've got a lot of phone calls to make - this way only one. The hope would be also that through 'better' security/biometrics etc. it would be worth less in the hands of a thief.

            Regards, Rob Philpott.

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            Rob Philpott wrote:

            The hope would be also that through 'better' security/biometrics etc. it would be worth less in the hands of a thief.

            Certainly that is what the people selling the solutions rely on. On the other hand when someone comes up with a system that cannot be compromised in some way by other humans then I would suspect that the creator wasn't human.

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            • 0 0bx

              Belgium has the first vending machine that only sells crates of beer and sixpacks[^]. The legal drinking age is 16, but every Belgian has an electronic id card so the machine can check if you're permitted to use it's services.

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              I guess you have to be born to it, and there is much to recommend it, but I hate Flanders. Its so drab, in a depressing way. But yeah, they have loads of automats. coffee, bread, all sorts of stuff. Not surprised its beer. SHame it isn't Stella though, its nicer than Jupiler.

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                I guess you have to be born to it, and there is much to recommend it, but I hate Flanders. Its so drab, in a depressing way. But yeah, they have loads of automats. coffee, bread, all sorts of stuff. Not surprised its beer. SHame it isn't Stella though, its nicer than Jupiler.

                Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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                Munchies_Matt wrote:

                I hate Flanders

                Just Ned, or the whole family? :rolleyes:


                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                  Forogar wrote:

                  When they have a fingerprint reader on the card,

                  And you can't think of any individual in an entire nation that might not have a problem with a system that requires a finger?

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                  We can just give them the finger. [Apologies to anyone who has no fingers, or arms, etc.]

                  - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                    We can just give them the finger. [Apologies to anyone who has no fingers, or arms, etc.]

                    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                    User 11054251
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                    Nice. :) So i sense in the comments that they don't use ID's in the US? Or do you guys see every different type of card as ID? In The Netherlands we have 2 ID's: The driving license and IDcard/passport. Then there are bankcards, shopcards etc but they are not qualified to use as official ID(they don't contain a picture. ) Also, about the fingerprints: In the Netherlands they have to scan your fingerprints before they can make a IDcard. I'm not sure, but i believe that the scans are saved in a database and in a chip on the idcard/passport

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                    • 0 0bx

                      Belgium has the first vending machine that only sells crates of beer and sixpacks[^]. The legal drinking age is 16, but every Belgian has an electronic id card so the machine can check if you're permitted to use it's services.

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                      Yes, we do have cool things in our country, although we also don't have a closing time for pubs, so why would you go to a vending machine ;P

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                      • M Munchies_Matt

                        I guess you have to be born to it, and there is much to recommend it, but I hate Flanders. Its so drab, in a depressing way. But yeah, they have loads of automats. coffee, bread, all sorts of stuff. Not surprised its beer. SHame it isn't Stella though, its nicer than Jupiler.

                        Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                        I hate Flanders

                        I think Brussels, Antwerp and Gent are decent places to live and work. The rest of Flanders is pretty much like this picture[^].

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                          Yes, we do have cool things in our country, although we also don't have a closing time for pubs, so why would you go to a vending machine ;P

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                          Cheaper and you don't need to have eye contact with other people when you drink at home, which is very important in Flemish culture. :laugh:

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                            Munchies_Matt wrote:

                            I hate Flanders

                            I think Brussels, Antwerp and Gent are decent places to live and work. The rest of Flanders is pretty much like this picture[^].

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                            Yeah, the cities are the best part. Everything else is just drab.

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