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  • S Slacker007

    :thumbsup: for broccoli. :thumbsdown: for the sprouts.

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    Brady Kelly
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    Brussel sprouts with butter and lemon juice. :rose:

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    • P PhilLenoir

      What about ... dare I say it ... VB (gasp). Or Fortran.NET .... COBOL.NET. I've mentioned COBOL 3 times this week. I fear my account may get deleted.:~

      Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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      I have respected COBOL diploma somewhere. Never coded a single line of it outside of that course though.

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      • P PhilLenoir

        What about ... dare I say it ... VB (gasp). Or Fortran.NET .... COBOL.NET. I've mentioned COBOL 3 times this week. I fear my account may get deleted.:~

        Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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        I recently did some VB.NET work. For a few days, close together, a year it's not that bad.

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        • B Brady Kelly

          I recently did some VB.NET work. For a few days, close together, a year it's not that bad.

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          I know, I use VB not C#. But there are those here that just LOVE their curly braces and semicolons. It's a bit like Catholics and heaven - they like to think they're the only ones here!

          Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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            It's an excellent idea. Let's arrange that for the next CP Get-together?

            Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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            I agree, I wonder if I'll actually get what I ordered, if I'm holding a javalin? Who am I kidding, it'll still be wrong..

            "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst

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              I agree, I wonder if I'll actually get what I ordered, if I'm holding a javalin? Who am I kidding, it'll still be wrong..

              "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst

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              There's your big mistake: Holding it is no use. Spear a few of the buggers to incentivize the remainder.

              Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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              • B Brady Kelly

                Brussel sprouts with butter and lemon juice. :rose:

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                Jorgen Andersson
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                Brussel sprouts with sirloin steak and fried potatoes without the brussel sprouts. :thumbsup: Best description ever[^]

                Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                • M Matt McGuire

                  If Xamarin sponsors Mono, and Mono supports multiple languages (not just C#) why wouldn't Xamarin? or is this something I missed and slated for the future. I've avoided C# thus far (mostly because everyone says I have to use it), and i'ts not that I can't read or write C#, I just don't enjoy it. Note: not trying to start a flame war here, just got a valid question. Everyone has their own personal preferences. :)

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                  Joe Woodbury
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                  I wasn't that impressed with Xamarin when I evaluated it. It seems promising, but has a lot of holes and the documentation and support leaves a lot to be desired. Then there is the absurd pricing. EDIT: For those curious, for the full product they charge $1899 per developer per platform per year. The most recent project where this would have been used involved four platforms and, once we got going, at least three main developers. $22,788 per year isn't chump change for a small company (not indie, bigger than 20 employees and been around longer than 3 years) and for that, I expect stellar support, far fewer bugs and a much more complete SDK.

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                    I agree, I wonder if I'll actually get what I ordered, if I'm holding a javalin? Who am I kidding, it'll still be wrong..

                    "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst

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                    It's McDonald's; even if you get exactly what you asked for, it would still be wrong. You do know their "100% Beef burgers" contain a mixture of cow eyeballs and worm meat[^]? They're only allowed to call them "100% Beef burgers" because the small amount of beef they contain comes from a company called "100% Beef Company". X| Link[^] for the gullible fools who thought that was real! ;P


                    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                    • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                      It's McDonald's; even if you get exactly what you asked for, it would still be wrong. You do know their "100% Beef burgers" contain a mixture of cow eyeballs and worm meat[^]? They're only allowed to call them "100% Beef burgers" because the small amount of beef they contain comes from a company called "100% Beef Company". X| Link[^] for the gullible fools who thought that was real! ;P


                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                      Richard Deeming wrote:

                      It's McDonald's; even if you get exactly what you asked for, it would still be wrong.

                      I imagine the same could be said of most fast food places and a lot of non-fast food places, the all mighty dollar wins every time. [edit] DOH! said the gullible fool :-O :laugh:

                      "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst

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                      • P PhilLenoir

                        What about ... dare I say it ... VB (gasp). Or Fortran.NET .... COBOL.NET. I've mentioned COBOL 3 times this week. I fear my account may get deleted.:~

                        Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                        Ravi Bhavnani
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                        PhilLenoir wrote:

                        I've mentioned COBOL 3 times this week.

                        Identification, environment, data, procedure... ah... fond memories. :-D /ravi

                        My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                        • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                          It's McDonald's; even if you get exactly what you asked for, it would still be wrong. You do know their "100% Beef burgers" contain a mixture of cow eyeballs and worm meat[^]? They're only allowed to call them "100% Beef burgers" because the small amount of beef they contain comes from a company called "100% Beef Company". X| Link[^] for the gullible fools who thought that was real! ;P


                          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                          Brady Kelly
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                          Richard Deeming wrote:

                          You do know their "100% Beef burgers" contain a mixture of cow eyeballs and worm meat[^]?

                          :zzz: I trust Snopes, and McDonalds, more than the rumour mill you linked to.

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                            Richard Deeming wrote:

                            You do know their "100% Beef burgers" contain a mixture of cow eyeballs and worm meat[^]?

                            :zzz: I trust Snopes, and McDonalds, more than the rumour mill you linked to.

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                            Richard Deeming
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                            Damn, you didn't fall for it. :rolleyes:


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                            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                            • M Matt McGuire

                              If Xamarin sponsors Mono, and Mono supports multiple languages (not just C#) why wouldn't Xamarin? or is this something I missed and slated for the future. I've avoided C# thus far (mostly because everyone says I have to use it), and i'ts not that I can't read or write C#, I just don't enjoy it. Note: not trying to start a flame war here, just got a valid question. Everyone has their own personal preferences. :)

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                              Mladen Jankovic
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                              Matt McGuire wrote:

                              Everyone has their own personal preferences.

                              Well since you insist - Java stinks!

                              Commodore 64 emulator for Windows Phone

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                                I wasn't that impressed with Xamarin when I evaluated it. It seems promising, but has a lot of holes and the documentation and support leaves a lot to be desired. Then there is the absurd pricing. EDIT: For those curious, for the full product they charge $1899 per developer per platform per year. The most recent project where this would have been used involved four platforms and, once we got going, at least three main developers. $22,788 per year isn't chump change for a small company (not indie, bigger than 20 employees and been around longer than 3 years) and for that, I expect stellar support, far fewer bugs and a much more complete SDK.

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                                Andy Brummer
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                                What do you use instead?

                                Curvature of the Mind now with 3D

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                                • J Jorgen Andersson

                                  Brussel sprouts with sirloin steak and fried potatoes without the brussel sprouts. :thumbsup: Best description ever[^]

                                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                                  David C Hobbyist
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                                  Now That was Funny. But i love sprouts. :)

                                  David

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                                  • J Joe Woodbury

                                    I wasn't that impressed with Xamarin when I evaluated it. It seems promising, but has a lot of holes and the documentation and support leaves a lot to be desired. Then there is the absurd pricing. EDIT: For those curious, for the full product they charge $1899 per developer per platform per year. The most recent project where this would have been used involved four platforms and, once we got going, at least three main developers. $22,788 per year isn't chump change for a small company (not indie, bigger than 20 employees and been around longer than 3 years) and for that, I expect stellar support, far fewer bugs and a much more complete SDK.

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                                    pkfox
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                                    +1 for the absurd pricing, we are the people they should be courting for business and they don't even have a proper free dev or academic license for evaluation.

                                    We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP

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                                      If Xamarin sponsors Mono, and Mono supports multiple languages (not just C#) why wouldn't Xamarin? or is this something I missed and slated for the future. I've avoided C# thus far (mostly because everyone says I have to use it), and i'ts not that I can't read or write C#, I just don't enjoy it. Note: not trying to start a flame war here, just got a valid question. Everyone has their own personal preferences. :)

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                                      ScottM1
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                                      Matt McGuire wrote:

                                      not trying to start a flame war here

                                      Too late, it's on like Donkey Kong!!

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                                        +1 for the absurd pricing, we are the people they should be courting for business and they don't even have a proper free dev or academic license for evaluation.

                                        We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP

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                                        Tasadit
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                                        I'm currently evaluating them via Xamarin Studio, for free, and have had great support from them so far. I think I can get 1 month's trial of the full VS version for a sum of money that won't break my bank account (haven't checked the small print). I'm serious about using their product to make money, so I don't mind putting down a little up front. I think we have to get over this we-want-everything-for-free mindset that descends on everyone once they go on the internet.

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                                        • B Brady Kelly

                                          Richard Deeming wrote:

                                          You do know their "100% Beef burgers" contain a mixture of cow eyeballs and worm meat[^]?

                                          :zzz: I trust Snopes, and McDonalds, more than the rumour mill you linked to.

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                                          Simon ORiordan from UK
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                                          Back in the day in London I got kicked out of a hotel by a psychotic manager at five in the morning. Turned up at the Charing Cross Mickey Dee, with the duvet I'd nicked and my backpack. It was December. I ordered a Big Breakfast. The manager told me to take a seat, and he'd bring my meal over. He called me 'sir'. I don't know about youse guys, but I'm lovin' it.

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