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  • N Nagy Vilmos

    this is good and I use it normally. The fact that it seems to annoy some pooples just encourages me to use it more. :-D

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    Slacker007
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    #22

    such a trouble maker and non-conformist. :-D

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    • D den2k88

      "this." triggers any auto-completion or Intellisense in the world. Yes I'm lazy - I wouldn't train machines to do men's work if I wasn't ;)

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      Freak30
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      #23

      If you just type one or two letters and then press Ctrl + Space, you would also get Intellisense and have to type even less. ;)

      The good thing about pessimism is, that you are always either right or pleasently surprised.

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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        I have a question about your preferred programming style. Whenever I write code in C# I make extensive use of the 'this' keyword and I use class names when referencing statics. So:

        this.SomeProperty = someValue;
        this.SomeMethod();
        ThisClass.SomeStaticMethod();

        Instead of:

        SomeProperty = someValue;
        SomeMethod();
        SomeStaticMethod();

        My reasoning behind this is that I can tell something is an instance method or a static method. And to be completely honest it's also something I started doing in VB because VB has Modules and Modules don't make you specify the Module's name. So Me.SomeMethod() can be an instance method, a Shared/static method on the current class or a method in some Module! Now there's a new guy at work and he really hates this style of programming because he thinks it's redundant. I'm not asking for right or wrong (unless I'm the one who's right ;p), but I want to know personal preferences.

        My blog[^]

        public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
        {
        public void DoWork()
        {
        throw new NotSupportedException();
        }
        }

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        BillWoodruff
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        It has become a habit for me to use 'this,' to type in access modifiers even when not required, and to never create duplicate names, but, over the last two years, I have transitioned to using 'var freely which I know causes some people to break out in a poison sweat. I don't think these are particularly "bad" habits, but they are not any saving-grace of poor-quality design, or coding, either. At best, a syntactic sugar that may contribute to maintainability and future re-use ? But, I work alone, not in a team-setting. If (gods forbid) I was managing a commercial software dev team, oh yeah, I'd plump for standards.

        «OOP to me means only messaging, local retention and protection and hiding of state-process, and extreme late-binding of all things. »  Alan Kay's clarification on what he meant by the term "Object" in "Object-Oriented Programming."

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        • B BillWoodruff

          It has become a habit for me to use 'this,' to type in access modifiers even when not required, and to never create duplicate names, but, over the last two years, I have transitioned to using 'var freely which I know causes some people to break out in a poison sweat. I don't think these are particularly "bad" habits, but they are not any saving-grace of poor-quality design, or coding, either. At best, a syntactic sugar that may contribute to maintainability and future re-use ? But, I work alone, not in a team-setting. If (gods forbid) I was managing a commercial software dev team, oh yeah, I'd plump for standards.

          «OOP to me means only messaging, local retention and protection and hiding of state-process, and extreme late-binding of all things. »  Alan Kay's clarification on what he meant by the term "Object" in "Object-Oriented Programming."

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          ZurdoDev
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          #25

          Interesting that a lot of people do use this. I did not expect that. :-\ I don't like it. It just clutters up with extra code that is unnecessary. :^)

          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          • B BillWoodruff

            It has become a habit for me to use 'this,' to type in access modifiers even when not required, and to never create duplicate names, but, over the last two years, I have transitioned to using 'var freely which I know causes some people to break out in a poison sweat. I don't think these are particularly "bad" habits, but they are not any saving-grace of poor-quality design, or coding, either. At best, a syntactic sugar that may contribute to maintainability and future re-use ? But, I work alone, not in a team-setting. If (gods forbid) I was managing a commercial software dev team, oh yeah, I'd plump for standards.

            «OOP to me means only messaging, local retention and protection and hiding of state-process, and extreme late-binding of all things. »  Alan Kay's clarification on what he meant by the term "Object" in "Object-Oriented Programming."

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            Sander Rossel
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            #26

            BillWoodruff wrote:

            At best, a syntactic sugar

            Almost agreed. The var keyword can actually be quite dangerous as I have witnessed a few times myself. I work with Entity Framework a lot, which uses IQueryable to create queries that run on the database and return a result as IEnumerable that can be used in your application. Interface-wise there is little difference between IQueryable and IEnumerable, but the function of the two differs greatly! A few times I changed my IQueryable to IEnumerable and nothing broke, because the IQueryable was declared using var. The type of my variable just 'silently' changed to IEnumerable and all of a sudden my app wouldn't perform very well. Thing is, in order to create an IEnumerable the query was executed on the database. This was supposed to happen a few lines later, but because I put a ToList() function somewhere in between this was done to early. All my filter functions were done on the in-memory collection instead of the database. Of course you'd also have this problem if you declared your IQueryable as IEnumerable (an IQueryable IS an IEnumerable), but at least you'd explicitly choose to define it as such. I haven't seen this problem with other .NET interfaces, probably because none of them are so common and so costly as IQueryable, but I could imagine it happening when working with Streams or some such base class which has a few subclasses that do different things.

            My blog[^]

            public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
            {
            public void DoWork()
            {
            throw new NotSupportedException();
            }
            }

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            • F Freak30

              If you just type one or two letters and then press Ctrl + Space, you would also get Intellisense and have to type even less. ;)

              The good thing about pessimism is, that you are always either right or pleasently surprised.

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              Sander Rossel
              wrote on last edited by
              #27

              I don't think you have to type anything at all...

              My blog[^]

              public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
              {
              public void DoWork()
              {
              throw new NotSupportedException();
              }
              }

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              • N Nareesh1

                By that same reasoning, stop using any "using" and reference only via fully qualified "System.Windows.Forms.ListCtrl.Item item" :rolleyes: who needs any shortening of a line, just buy BLACK FRIDAY 50" MONITOR THATS IT?

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                Sander Rossel
                wrote on last edited by
                #28

                Yep, I know. But I prefer not to include any Namespaces, only class names (the class name should be clear enough anyway). I understand that in the new version of C# you can create a using for a class so you can use its static members without specifying the class. It's already my least favourite feature!

                My blog[^]

                public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                {
                public void DoWork()
                {
                throw new NotSupportedException();
                }
                }

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                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                  I have a question about your preferred programming style. Whenever I write code in C# I make extensive use of the 'this' keyword and I use class names when referencing statics. So:

                  this.SomeProperty = someValue;
                  this.SomeMethod();
                  ThisClass.SomeStaticMethod();

                  Instead of:

                  SomeProperty = someValue;
                  SomeMethod();
                  SomeStaticMethod();

                  My reasoning behind this is that I can tell something is an instance method or a static method. And to be completely honest it's also something I started doing in VB because VB has Modules and Modules don't make you specify the Module's name. So Me.SomeMethod() can be an instance method, a Shared/static method on the current class or a method in some Module! Now there's a new guy at work and he really hates this style of programming because he thinks it's redundant. I'm not asking for right or wrong (unless I'm the one who's right ;p), but I want to know personal preferences.

                  My blog[^]

                  public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                  {
                  public void DoWork()
                  {
                  throw new NotSupportedException();
                  }
                  }

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                  Lost User
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #29

                  I have noticed in Android (and Java generally) they often prefix with m like mSomeMemberVariable instead of using this. maybe it depends on the IDE if it has a good IntelliSense.

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                  • P PIEBALDconsult

                    Got a link?

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    #30

                    I did some searching but could not find that any more. Looks like they don't have a single document any more. This was from several years back. Once you installed the StyleCop plugin (was not part of VS then), it would issue warnings when you accessed a member without prefixing this.

                    Regards, Nish


                    Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                      Got a link?

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                      Nish Nishant
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                      #31

                      Managed to dig out the old StyleCop page : http://stylecop.soyuz5.com/SA1101.html[^] Could not locate the original full document, sorry.

                      Regards, Nish


                      Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                      • N Nish Nishant

                        I did some searching but could not find that any more. Looks like they don't have a single document any more. This was from several years back. Once you installed the StyleCop plugin (was not part of VS then), it would issue warnings when you accessed a member without prefixing this.

                        Regards, Nish


                        Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                        PIEBALDconsult
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                        #32

                        Nish Sivakumar wrote:

                        StyleCop

                        X|

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                        • P PIEBALDconsult

                          Nish Sivakumar wrote:

                          StyleCop

                          X|

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                          Nish Nishant
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #33

                          Heh :-) Not everyone's cup of tea, I know.

                          Regards, Nish


                          Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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