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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    At the final step, you effectively have a=0, which means that a/a=1 on the second line is division by zero. But why were b and c introduced? It's just nonsense. Additionally, a²=b² certainly does not mean a=b.

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    tayoufabrice
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    a=0 never means a/a=0 (a can never be 0). a=a <=> a/a=a/a <=> 1=1 I could fix the post as : Given a C ]--;0[ U ]0;++[ (meaning 0 excluded)

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    • P phil o

      a - a = 0

      You cannot get anything useful from a multiplication once it has involved a zero term.

      5 x 0 = 12012 x 0

      does not mean that

      5 = 12012

      There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.

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      tayoufabrice
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      very very TRUE:thumbsup::thumbsup:

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      • R R Giskard Reventlov

        tayoufabrice wrote:

        Where is the error ?

        In between your ears: obviously the answer is 42.

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        the answer is 42 :laugh: :laugh:

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        • T tayoufabrice

          a=0 never means a/a=0 (a can never be 0). a=a <=> a/a=a/a <=> 1=1 I could fix the post as : Given a C ]--;0[ U ]0;++[ (meaning 0 excluded)

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          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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          Which means that you have an equation system and not a single equation...It's a different thing to solve...

          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

          "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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          • P PIEBALDconsult

            Yes, but the damage is done before that.

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            Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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            You mean, when OP went to learn math?

            Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

            "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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            • T tayoufabrice

              Let read this : 1=1 a=a a²=a² a²-a²=a²-a² a(a-a)=(a+a)(a-a) a=a+a a(1)=a(1+1) 1=1+1 1=2 Where is the error ?

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              This is best asked here: http://www.codeproject.com/script/Answers/List.aspx?tags=900&alltags=true[^]

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              • P PIEBALDconsult

                Abbott and Costello said it better.

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                Mark_Wallace
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                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                Abbott and Costello_, who were on first,_ said it better.

                It was missing something.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                • T tayoufabrice

                  Let read this : 1=1 a=a a²=a² a²-a²=a²-a² a(a-a)=(a+a)(a-a) a=a+a a(1)=a(1+1) 1=1+1 1=2 Where is the error ?

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                  welcome to the lounge. I know this isn't quite your first post - but nearly. And I would like to apologise for the negativity your post received. For someone who hadn't seen that 'proof' before it may have been interesting - as you can see, not only have the majority here seen it (more than once!) but they like to stuff it down your throat - whether to big-note themselves or simply in an attempt to belittle you we cannot tell. They should be ashamed. Merry Xmas

                  PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                  • T tayoufabrice

                    Let read this : 1=1 a=a a²=a² a²-a²=a²-a² a(a-a)=(a+a)(a-a) a=a+a a(1)=a(1+1) 1=1+1 1=2 Where is the error ?

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                    Mitchell J
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                    How about this... ;P Start with this: 1/9 = 1/9 Then convert one side to decimal equivalent (which is infinitely recurring) 1/9 = 0.11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111...(etc etc) Then multiply both sides by nine 1 = 0.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999...(etc etc) Therefore, 1 is equal to 0.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999...(where the 9's are in infinite recursion). And yes, this actually is mathematically correct.

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                      welcome to the lounge. I know this isn't quite your first post - but nearly. And I would like to apologise for the negativity your post received. For someone who hadn't seen that 'proof' before it may have been interesting - as you can see, not only have the majority here seen it (more than once!) but they like to stuff it down your throat - whether to big-note themselves or simply in an attempt to belittle you we cannot tell. They should be ashamed. Merry Xmas

                      PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                      tayoufabrice
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                      Thank you Max and happy new Xear

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                      • M Mitchell J

                        How about this... ;P Start with this: 1/9 = 1/9 Then convert one side to decimal equivalent (which is infinitely recurring) 1/9 = 0.11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111...(etc etc) Then multiply both sides by nine 1 = 0.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999...(etc etc) Therefore, 1 is equal to 0.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999...(where the 9's are in infinite recursion). And yes, this actually is mathematically correct.

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                        tayoufabrice
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                        I agree but here 1/9 = 0.111111111111111111111111...... is not really true ; we lost 0.000000000000000000000.......9 I could write 1/9~= 0.111111111111111111111111...... then 1 ~= 0.9999999999999999999999999...... ??

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                        • T tayoufabrice

                          I agree but here 1/9 = 0.111111111111111111111111...... is not really true ; we lost 0.000000000000000000000.......9 I could write 1/9~= 0.111111111111111111111111...... then 1 ~= 0.9999999999999999999999999...... ??

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                          Mitchell J
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                          tayoufabrice wrote:

                          1/9 = 0.111111111111111111111111...... is not really true ; we lost 0.000000000000000000000.......9

                          Wish I could agree, but I can't... read all about it[^] :-D Even google 0.999999999999999 = 1[^] if you're still unconvinced.

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                            tayoufabrice wrote:

                            1/9 = 0.111111111111111111111111...... is not really true ; we lost 0.000000000000000000000.......9

                            Wish I could agree, but I can't... read all about it[^] :-D Even google 0.999999999999999 = 1[^] if you're still unconvinced.

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                            tayoufabrice
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                            Ah là là :laugh: Mathematics !! (French laughing)

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                            • T tayoufabrice

                              Let read this : 1=1 a=a a²=a² a²-a²=a²-a² a(a-a)=(a+a)(a-a) a=a+a a(1)=a(1+1) 1=1+1 1=2 Where is the error ?

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                              Daniel Pfeffer
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                              a(a-a) = (a+a)(a-a) // divide by (a-a), i.e. divide by 0 a = a+a Division by zero is a no-no because it can lead to "impossible" results like the above.

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                                a(a-a) = (a+a)(a-a) // divide by (a-a), i.e. divide by 0 a = a+a Division by zero is a no-no because it can lead to "impossible" results like the above.

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                                tayoufabrice
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                                I could fix the post as : Given a C ]--;0[ U ]0;++[ (meaning 0 excluded) Now ??

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                                • T tayoufabrice

                                  I could fix the post as : Given a C ]--;0[ U ]0;++[ (meaning 0 excluded) Now ??

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                                  Daniel Pfeffer
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                                  The value of a is irrelevant; a - a == 0, and factoring out a - a is division by 0, which is forbidden. I am not a mathematician, so I don't know if it is possible to create a self-consistent arithmetic in which division by 0 does not result in nonsensical results. All I know is that in the arithmetic I learnt in school it is forbidden.

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                                  • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                    The value of a is irrelevant; a - a == 0, and factoring out a - a is division by 0, which is forbidden. I am not a mathematician, so I don't know if it is possible to create a self-consistent arithmetic in which division by 0 does not result in nonsensical results. All I know is that in the arithmetic I learnt in school it is forbidden.

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                                    Sure ! :laugh: number can never be divided by zero 0 ; even 0/0 :confused: It is the real error of my process

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