Windows Phone Sales Make Me Sad
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I bought a Windows Phone about a month ago. I've recently installed Windows 8.1 on my laptop. I've a subscription to Office 365. I've been enjoying how everything works together and I love the live tiles. I'd like to eventually get a Surface Pro 3. I think it is a snazzy little ecosystem. I hate to see Windows Phone not do well - I just don't see what is so wrong with it that it isn't selling better. I guess I think it is a really good product. I don't understand the hate - and the diminishing market share.
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I bought a Windows Phone about a month ago. I've recently installed Windows 8.1 on my laptop. I've a subscription to Office 365. I've been enjoying how everything works together and I love the live tiles. I'd like to eventually get a Surface Pro 3. I think it is a snazzy little ecosystem. I hate to see Windows Phone not do well - I just don't see what is so wrong with it that it isn't selling better. I guess I think it is a really good product. I don't understand the hate - and the diminishing market share.
The came to late and the tile optic was disturbing. And a lot of people are angry since Vista. Do you remember how Ballmer laughed about the iphone. But most of all: the came years to late. Remember the crappy Windows Mobile - they earned what the deserve. PS: I am also sorry about it, because I "was" a Windows programmer with MFC and C# :((
Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany
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I bought a Windows Phone about a month ago. I've recently installed Windows 8.1 on my laptop. I've a subscription to Office 365. I've been enjoying how everything works together and I love the live tiles. I'd like to eventually get a Surface Pro 3. I think it is a snazzy little ecosystem. I hate to see Windows Phone not do well - I just don't see what is so wrong with it that it isn't selling better. I guess I think it is a really good product. I don't understand the hate - and the diminishing market share.
I use Windows Phone and like it a lot (miles ahead of Android, and I just don't want to use anything Apple). As for the market share - let Microsoft worry about it.
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I am with you 100%. I don't get why people keep saying, that the number of available applications on WP8 are lacking. Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
As someone who used Windows Phone from version 7 through to a couple of months ago, I do feel I can bring some perspective to this. While I loved the UI and the way it worked, the one thing I couldn't get past was the lack of apps. I'm not talking about numbers here - lord knows, the Windows Phone store is inundated with a huge number of truly terrible applications. What it lacked were the quality applications from companies that I wanted apps from. This is where Android and Apple have the market locked up; companies only have so much development spend, and why would they waste it on low growth devices? Let's face it, we're not bemoaning the lack of apps on Blackberry here, yet it's in a similar situation. The thing that finally made me give up was the fact that I run my home sound system on Sonos, and there still isn't a WP version of the Sonos controller. I got an HTC M8, installed the app and it auto-opens for me when I come in the house, if the family are playing any music. Until Microsoft can persuade businesses to develop apps for Windows Phone, they are going to be a poor third relation.
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How's their market share looking? :-D
And since when has popularity been a hallmark of quality? ;P You'll be telling us you're a Beleiber next! X|
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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I have been using a Samsung Galaxy s1 for more than three years now without any problem. I have been using an Acer Liquid for more than one year without even one glitch or slowdown. Not sure what you are actually doing with your phones... :-D
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.
Possibly NOT taking them out to dinner?
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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And since when has popularity been a hallmark of quality? ;P You'll be telling us you're a Beleiber next! X|
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
PhilLenoir wrote:
you're a Beleiber next
She's number one -- with a bullet.
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PhilLenoir wrote:
you're a Beleiber next
She's number one -- with a bullet.
You bring the gun, I'll get the bullet.
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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I use Windows Phone and like it a lot (miles ahead of Android, and I just don't want to use anything Apple). As for the market share - let Microsoft worry about it.
Unless market share improves, we'll always be behind Apple and Android when it comes to apps.
Regards, Nish
Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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The smart phone OS market already has 2 hugely successful platforms that dominate market share and mind share - in order for a new platform to gain any real traction it needs to leapfrog the older platforms by a significant margin. It can't just be equal or even a little bit better.
Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.
Or they could give us high end phones for very low prices.
Regards, Nish
Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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Unless market share improves, we'll always be behind Apple and Android when it comes to apps.
Regards, Nish
Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
Nish Sivakumar wrote:
we'll always be behind Apple and Android when it comes to apps
I honestly don't care. The only app I want that is already not coming with the phone is Kindle, and there is Kindle for WinPhone.
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Nish Sivakumar wrote:
we'll always be behind Apple and Android when it comes to apps
I honestly don't care. The only app I want that is already not coming with the phone is Kindle, and there is Kindle for WinPhone.
I don't either. But we are not the majority market. Most people want apps.
Regards, Nish
Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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As someone who used Windows Phone from version 7 through to a couple of months ago, I do feel I can bring some perspective to this. While I loved the UI and the way it worked, the one thing I couldn't get past was the lack of apps. I'm not talking about numbers here - lord knows, the Windows Phone store is inundated with a huge number of truly terrible applications. What it lacked were the quality applications from companies that I wanted apps from. This is where Android and Apple have the market locked up; companies only have so much development spend, and why would they waste it on low growth devices? Let's face it, we're not bemoaning the lack of apps on Blackberry here, yet it's in a similar situation. The thing that finally made me give up was the fact that I run my home sound system on Sonos, and there still isn't a WP version of the Sonos controller. I got an HTC M8, installed the app and it auto-opens for me when I come in the house, if the family are playing any music. Until Microsoft can persuade businesses to develop apps for Windows Phone, they are going to be a poor third relation.
I remember your thread here in the Lounge a few months back. What I got from it was that you were dumping WP because the integration of the social media applications worked "too well", resulting in too many disturbances for you. Although I am not missing any applications on my WP8, I agree there is a catch 22 when you show up late for the party: - When most companies develop mobile applications, they start with the ones that have the biggest market share. - Many people buy a device with a large market share because companies have made applications for them.
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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I use Windows Phone and like it a lot (miles ahead of Android, and I just don't want to use anything Apple). As for the market share - let Microsoft worry about it.
Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
As for the market share - let Microsoft worry about it.
I suspect this thread was started as a result of this News post: http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4975589/Is-Microsoft-s-Windows-Phone-at-long-last-dead.aspx[^] If Microsoft kills off their phone product, your post suggests that it might affect you too. Still, there is no sense in us spending time worrying about it :) . Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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It's mainly the lack of apps. Whenever a company says they have mobile apps, that usually means Apple and Android.
Regards, Nish
Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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I don't either. But we are not the majority market. Most people want apps.
Regards, Nish
Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
Nish Sivakumar wrote:
I don't either. But we are not the majority market. Most people want apps.
My guess is if you asked 100 phone buyers what apps they need that are available on platform A but not on platform B that 99 of them couldn't name a single app which isn't available on both platforms. It is dishonest to pretend that the number apps a phone has should have any impact on what phone the average consumer should purchase. Technology should be purchased to solve a clearly defined need - 99/100 phone buyers could pick any smart phone and have more than they'll ever require. Nobody needs 100,000+ apps.
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
As for the market share - let Microsoft worry about it.
I suspect this thread was started as a result of this News post: http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4975589/Is-Microsoft-s-Windows-Phone-at-long-last-dead.aspx[^] If Microsoft kills off their phone product, your post suggests that it might affect you too. Still, there is no sense in us spending time worrying about it :) . Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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As someone who used Windows Phone from version 7 through to a couple of months ago, I do feel I can bring some perspective to this. While I loved the UI and the way it worked, the one thing I couldn't get past was the lack of apps. I'm not talking about numbers here - lord knows, the Windows Phone store is inundated with a huge number of truly terrible applications. What it lacked were the quality applications from companies that I wanted apps from. This is where Android and Apple have the market locked up; companies only have so much development spend, and why would they waste it on low growth devices? Let's face it, we're not bemoaning the lack of apps on Blackberry here, yet it's in a similar situation. The thing that finally made me give up was the fact that I run my home sound system on Sonos, and there still isn't a WP version of the Sonos controller. I got an HTC M8, installed the app and it auto-opens for me when I come in the house, if the family are playing any music. Until Microsoft can persuade businesses to develop apps for Windows Phone, they are going to be a poor third relation.
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i hear that a lot - but when i ask which apps people want theres generally not a lot of response so erm...which apps are not available that are deal breakers? Bryce
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Most common one I hear is banking apps. All the major banks in America have Android and iOS apps, but nothing for Windows. Next most common complaint is popular trending games. By the time Windows gets it, people have moved on to newer games. And then there's also how even apps that are ported fast enough are far slower and way more unstable that the same apps on other OSes. I'd assume it's because of the thinner pool of high quality mobile devs on Windows.
Regards, Nish
Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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Nish Sivakumar wrote:
I don't either. But we are not the majority market. Most people want apps.
My guess is if you asked 100 phone buyers what apps they need that are available on platform A but not on platform B that 99 of them couldn't name a single app which isn't available on both platforms. It is dishonest to pretend that the number apps a phone has should have any impact on what phone the average consumer should purchase. Technology should be purchased to solve a clearly defined need - 99/100 phone buyers could pick any smart phone and have more than they'll ever require. Nobody needs 100,000+ apps.
Copy/pasting my reply above : Most common one I hear is banking apps. All the major banks in America have Android and iOS apps, but nothing for Windows. Next most common complaint is popular trending games. By the time Windows gets it, people have moved on to newer games. And then there's also how even apps that are ported fast enough are far slower and way more unstable that the same apps on other OSes. I'd assume it's because of the thinner pool of high quality mobile devs on Windows.
Regards, Nish
Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com