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  • L Lost User

    I bought a Windows Phone about a month ago. I've recently installed Windows 8.1 on my laptop. I've a subscription to Office 365. I've been enjoying how everything works together and I love the live tiles. I'd like to eventually get a Surface Pro 3. I think it is a snazzy little ecosystem. I hate to see Windows Phone not do well - I just don't see what is so wrong with it that it isn't selling better. I guess I think it is a really good product. I don't understand the hate - and the diminishing market share.

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    Lost User
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    The smart phone OS market already has 2 hugely successful platforms that dominate market share and mind share - in order for a new platform to gain any real traction it needs to leapfrog the older platforms by a significant margin. It can't just be equal or even a little bit better.

    Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.

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    • V Vivi Chellappa

      PIEBALDconsult wrote:

      "One OS to rule them all" is not what most customers want.

      Explain iOS to me then.

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      I'll translate PIEBALDconsult's post for you: "I'm an Apple fanboi. When they do stuff it is awesome; however, when Microsoft does it then it is doody-headed. [insert fart noises]" ^---- PIEBALDconsult will claim that is a mis-translation but you shouldn't believe his lies. I'm glad I could help. If you need any other posts translated just ask.

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        Well, I took them out to dinner, and then...

        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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        Lost User
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        It will take me the better part of the day to get that out of my head.

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        • L Lost User

          I bought a Windows Phone about a month ago. I've recently installed Windows 8.1 on my laptop. I've a subscription to Office 365. I've been enjoying how everything works together and I love the live tiles. I'd like to eventually get a Surface Pro 3. I think it is a snazzy little ecosystem. I hate to see Windows Phone not do well - I just don't see what is so wrong with it that it isn't selling better. I guess I think it is a really good product. I don't understand the hate - and the diminishing market share.

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          kmoorevs
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          I've had a WP for about a year and a half and have no complaints. This is my first smartphone so I have nothing to compare it against. I originally got it so I would have the option to develop for WP, which hasn't happened yet. My carrier just released the 8.1 upgrade a few weeks ago, which has some really nice features. I also use the Office 365, but don't find it to be that practical to use on a phone. I have yet to find a use for the much touted Cortana. I agree that it is a really good product. As for market share, it probably has a lot to do with the number of available apps. :)

          "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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          • L Lost User

            I bought a Windows Phone about a month ago. I've recently installed Windows 8.1 on my laptop. I've a subscription to Office 365. I've been enjoying how everything works together and I love the live tiles. I'd like to eventually get a Surface Pro 3. I think it is a snazzy little ecosystem. I hate to see Windows Phone not do well - I just don't see what is so wrong with it that it isn't selling better. I guess I think it is a really good product. I don't understand the hate - and the diminishing market share.

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            Nish Nishant
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            It's mainly the lack of apps. Whenever a company says they have mobile apps, that usually means Apple and Android.

            Regards, Nish


            Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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            • L Lost User

              It will take me the better part of the day to get that out of my head.

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              OriginalGriff
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              My work here is done...

              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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              • L Lost User

                I bought a Windows Phone about a month ago. I've recently installed Windows 8.1 on my laptop. I've a subscription to Office 365. I've been enjoying how everything works together and I love the live tiles. I'd like to eventually get a Surface Pro 3. I think it is a snazzy little ecosystem. I hate to see Windows Phone not do well - I just don't see what is so wrong with it that it isn't selling better. I guess I think it is a really good product. I don't understand the hate - and the diminishing market share.

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                PhilLenoir
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                I don't have a cell phone. I used to have, but I found I'd keep forgetting it, forgetting to charge it and the only time I used it was to phone home to get wifey to put the kettle on. Since we now work at the same place .... Anyway, I don't think I have an axe to grind. However, my wife has had a Windows phone for years now and absolutely loves it. We have friends and family with iPhones and Android devices. Unless you are hooked in to the corresponding environments I can see no great advantage in either of these (with price and longevity being questionable with Apple). Windows had a big advantage for my wife as we are Windows at home and work and she makes extensive use of Office. So I agree, it's a mystery to me why it has not caught on. To say that MS is not serious about it or that they aren't good at it is a mystery too as WP is at least as good as any of the others. Humans are very good at reinforcing our own preconceptions, we tend to latch on to half-truths and lies that support our world view. It seems that WP may disappear, like Betamax, for no other reason than it was in last place.

                Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                • V Vivi Chellappa

                  PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                  "One OS to rule them all" is not what most customers want.

                  Explain iOS to me then.

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                  OriginalGriff
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                  iOS doesn't run their lappies, does it? Isn't that Mac OS X? I thought that was different? But iOS runs on tablets, and phones, just like Android does. And no, I'm not an Apple fanbois: they sell overpriced, over hyped tat.

                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                  • V Vivi Chellappa

                    PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                    "One OS to rule them all" is not what most customers want.

                    Explain iOS to me then.

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                    How's their market share looking? :-D

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                    • D den2k88

                      3 phones, one low-end - to throw away after a few months. Two High-end (over 600 € each) and they lasted as peformant for no more than a year... And they drive me crazy! So I'll try WP.

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                      I have been using a Samsung Galaxy s1 for more than three years now without any problem. I have been using an Acer Liquid for more than one year without even one glitch or slowdown. Not sure what you are actually doing with your phones... :-D

                      ~RaGE();

                      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                      • L Lost User

                        I bought a Windows Phone about a month ago. I've recently installed Windows 8.1 on my laptop. I've a subscription to Office 365. I've been enjoying how everything works together and I love the live tiles. I'd like to eventually get a Surface Pro 3. I think it is a snazzy little ecosystem. I hate to see Windows Phone not do well - I just don't see what is so wrong with it that it isn't selling better. I guess I think it is a really good product. I don't understand the hate - and the diminishing market share.

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                        SoMad
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                        I am with you 100%. I don't get why people keep saying, that the number of available applications on WP8 are lacking. Soren Madsen

                        "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

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                        • L Lost User

                          I bought a Windows Phone about a month ago. I've recently installed Windows 8.1 on my laptop. I've a subscription to Office 365. I've been enjoying how everything works together and I love the live tiles. I'd like to eventually get a Surface Pro 3. I think it is a snazzy little ecosystem. I hate to see Windows Phone not do well - I just don't see what is so wrong with it that it isn't selling better. I guess I think it is a really good product. I don't understand the hate - and the diminishing market share.

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                          KarstenK
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                          The came to late and the tile optic was disturbing. And a lot of people are angry since Vista. Do you remember how Ballmer laughed about the iphone. But most of all: the came years to late. Remember the crappy Windows Mobile - they earned what the deserve. PS: I am also sorry about it, because I "was" a Windows programmer with MFC and C# :((

                          Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                          • L Lost User

                            I bought a Windows Phone about a month ago. I've recently installed Windows 8.1 on my laptop. I've a subscription to Office 365. I've been enjoying how everything works together and I love the live tiles. I'd like to eventually get a Surface Pro 3. I think it is a snazzy little ecosystem. I hate to see Windows Phone not do well - I just don't see what is so wrong with it that it isn't selling better. I guess I think it is a really good product. I don't understand the hate - and the diminishing market share.

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                            Nemanja Trifunovic
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                            I use Windows Phone and like it a lot (miles ahead of Android, and I just don't want to use anything Apple). As for the market share - let Microsoft worry about it.

                            utf8-cpp

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                              I am with you 100%. I don't get why people keep saying, that the number of available applications on WP8 are lacking. Soren Madsen

                              "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

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                              Pete OHanlon
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                              As someone who used Windows Phone from version 7 through to a couple of months ago, I do feel I can bring some perspective to this. While I loved the UI and the way it worked, the one thing I couldn't get past was the lack of apps. I'm not talking about numbers here - lord knows, the Windows Phone store is inundated with a huge number of truly terrible applications. What it lacked were the quality applications from companies that I wanted apps from. This is where Android and Apple have the market locked up; companies only have so much development spend, and why would they waste it on low growth devices? Let's face it, we're not bemoaning the lack of apps on Blackberry here, yet it's in a similar situation. The thing that finally made me give up was the fact that I run my home sound system on Sonos, and there still isn't a WP version of the Sonos controller. I got an HTC M8, installed the app and it auto-opens for me when I come in the house, if the family are playing any music. Until Microsoft can persuade businesses to develop apps for Windows Phone, they are going to be a poor third relation.

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                                How's their market share looking? :-D

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                                And since when has popularity been a hallmark of quality? ;P You'll be telling us you're a Beleiber next! X|

                                Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                                  I have been using a Samsung Galaxy s1 for more than three years now without any problem. I have been using an Acer Liquid for more than one year without even one glitch or slowdown. Not sure what you are actually doing with your phones... :-D

                                  ~RaGE();

                                  I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                                  PhilLenoir
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                                  Possibly NOT taking them out to dinner?

                                  Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                                    And since when has popularity been a hallmark of quality? ;P You'll be telling us you're a Beleiber next! X|

                                    Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                                    PIEBALDconsult
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                                    PhilLenoir wrote:

                                    you're a Beleiber next

                                    She's number one -- with a bullet.

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                                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                                      PhilLenoir wrote:

                                      you're a Beleiber next

                                      She's number one -- with a bullet.

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                                      PhilLenoir
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                                      You bring the gun, I'll get the bullet.

                                      Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                                      • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                        I use Windows Phone and like it a lot (miles ahead of Android, and I just don't want to use anything Apple). As for the market share - let Microsoft worry about it.

                                        utf8-cpp

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                                        Nish Nishant
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                                        Unless market share improves, we'll always be behind Apple and Android when it comes to apps.

                                        Regards, Nish


                                        Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          The smart phone OS market already has 2 hugely successful platforms that dominate market share and mind share - in order for a new platform to gain any real traction it needs to leapfrog the older platforms by a significant margin. It can't just be equal or even a little bit better.

                                          Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.

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                                          Nish Nishant
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                                          Or they could give us high end phones for very low prices.

                                          Regards, Nish


                                          Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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