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new graphics card NVIDIA GTX750OC is not working... advice?

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  • J Joan M

    Hello all, My brother in law asked me about a recommendation for a graphics card that would work with his computer. After searching for the computer tech specs and knowing the amount of money available I recommended him the GTX750OC card. After removing his old card and inserting the new one, when powering the computer I saw all the fans rotating and in the display the blue splash screen that comes with the HP computers appeared (a hand and a small text down on the screen asking to press ESC key to go into the boot menu). That is the last thing the computer is doing. you can press ESC or whatever but nothing happens. After looking deeper in computer tech specs I saw the power supply was giving only 300W and that the graphics card needed 400W to work. X| Do you think changing the power supply will do it? After replacing the new card for the original one again everything worked again. Any recommendation? (apart of course to stay away of relatives who ask for help in IT related issues). As a recommendation of @Kornfeld_Eliyahu_Peter, I'm posting the motherboard kind here: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02978278&cc=us&destPage=document&lc=en&tmp_docname=c04169254[^] Thank you all! :thumbsup:

    [www.tamautomation.com] | Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing. [YouTube channel]

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    Hello again, Joan. I just looked at the nVidia site and didn't see a product with the exact nomenclature you mentioned. The ones I see are GTX 570 and GTX 750 Ti. I get "Page Not Found" for the Ti version. You should check the amperage for each voltage on the power supply and not just total combined power. The installation manual for the video card might say something like +5V @22A. If the current power supply only delivers +5V @10A, then there is a 12A shortfall and the card will most likely not work with that power supply. Regards, Rick

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    • J Joan M

      Hello all, My brother in law asked me about a recommendation for a graphics card that would work with his computer. After searching for the computer tech specs and knowing the amount of money available I recommended him the GTX750OC card. After removing his old card and inserting the new one, when powering the computer I saw all the fans rotating and in the display the blue splash screen that comes with the HP computers appeared (a hand and a small text down on the screen asking to press ESC key to go into the boot menu). That is the last thing the computer is doing. you can press ESC or whatever but nothing happens. After looking deeper in computer tech specs I saw the power supply was giving only 300W and that the graphics card needed 400W to work. X| Do you think changing the power supply will do it? After replacing the new card for the original one again everything worked again. Any recommendation? (apart of course to stay away of relatives who ask for help in IT related issues). As a recommendation of @Kornfeld_Eliyahu_Peter, I'm posting the motherboard kind here: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02978278&cc=us&destPage=document&lc=en&tmp_docname=c04169254[^] Thank you all! :thumbsup:

      [www.tamautomation.com] | Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing. [YouTube channel]

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      Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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      Another option is the PCIe port, does it support version 3.0?

      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

        I checked some models with this GPU from ASUS and MSI and didn't see such external power connection...Maybe the exact model would help...

        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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        Ok maybe it doesn't, but then it's not really high end anyway.. But 400W without cables? Madness edit: ok I've found two of them, one says "no cables", the other says "additional 6 pin PCIe power required"

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        • J Joan M

          Hello all, My brother in law asked me about a recommendation for a graphics card that would work with his computer. After searching for the computer tech specs and knowing the amount of money available I recommended him the GTX750OC card. After removing his old card and inserting the new one, when powering the computer I saw all the fans rotating and in the display the blue splash screen that comes with the HP computers appeared (a hand and a small text down on the screen asking to press ESC key to go into the boot menu). That is the last thing the computer is doing. you can press ESC or whatever but nothing happens. After looking deeper in computer tech specs I saw the power supply was giving only 300W and that the graphics card needed 400W to work. X| Do you think changing the power supply will do it? After replacing the new card for the original one again everything worked again. Any recommendation? (apart of course to stay away of relatives who ask for help in IT related issues). As a recommendation of @Kornfeld_Eliyahu_Peter, I'm posting the motherboard kind here: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02978278&cc=us&destPage=document&lc=en&tmp_docname=c04169254[^] Thank you all! :thumbsup:

          [www.tamautomation.com] | Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing. [YouTube channel]

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          I could use one of those cards: my hands are freezing in here! :laugh:

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            I could use one of those cards: my hands are freezing in here! :laugh:

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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            Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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            The snow still on? Poor bastards...[^]

            Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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            • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

              Your card does not get power directly from the power supply but via the board, so the question: Will the board survive a new power supply unit? You may post the board id here, someone may have an experience with it...

              Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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              The board is this one[^].

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              • J Joan M

                Hello all, My brother in law asked me about a recommendation for a graphics card that would work with his computer. After searching for the computer tech specs and knowing the amount of money available I recommended him the GTX750OC card. After removing his old card and inserting the new one, when powering the computer I saw all the fans rotating and in the display the blue splash screen that comes with the HP computers appeared (a hand and a small text down on the screen asking to press ESC key to go into the boot menu). That is the last thing the computer is doing. you can press ESC or whatever but nothing happens. After looking deeper in computer tech specs I saw the power supply was giving only 300W and that the graphics card needed 400W to work. X| Do you think changing the power supply will do it? After replacing the new card for the original one again everything worked again. Any recommendation? (apart of course to stay away of relatives who ask for help in IT related issues). As a recommendation of @Kornfeld_Eliyahu_Peter, I'm posting the motherboard kind here: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02978278&cc=us&destPage=document&lc=en&tmp_docname=c04169254[^] Thank you all! :thumbsup:

                [www.tamautomation.com] | Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing. [YouTube channel]

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                Jochen Arndt
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                If the card has an additional power connector, it must be connected. This should be mentioned in the (quick install) manual. The OC indicates an overclocked version. These usually have an additional connector. If the current PSU did not has a power line for GPU cards, it must be replaced. As already mentioned by others, the PSU should be replaced anyway to provide the necessary power when required.

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                • L Lost User

                  Ok maybe it doesn't, but then it's not really high end anyway.. But 400W without cables? Madness edit: ok I've found two of them, one says "no cables", the other says "additional 6 pin PCIe power required"

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                  In their specs (at the card box) it says no extra cables needed, I asked that in the shop too and before buying I saw it in their web site... so they are asking for 400W without cables... Why should it be madness?

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                  • J Joan M

                    In their specs (at the card box) it says no extra cables needed, I asked that in the shop too and before buying I saw it in their web site... so they are asking for 400W without cables... Why should it be madness?

                    [www.tamautomation.com] | Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing. [YouTube channel]

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                    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                    Because in that case you get power via the board, and it maybe can't handle it...

                    Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                    "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                    • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                      The problem is likely caused by the fact that the driver for the old card is still installed. Will it start in safe mode? If it does, then uninstall the driver for the old card and install the driver for the new one. The 400W rating for the card is probably for when the card is at peak performance, not just starting up. But, yes, you will probably need to replace the power supply in order for the card to work properly.

                      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                      not at all Richard, the OS doesn't even start... X|

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                      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                        Because in that case you get power via the board, and it maybe can't handle it...

                        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                        But it is a "maybe"... :~

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                        • J Joan M

                          The board is this one[^].

                          [www.tamautomation.com] | Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing. [YouTube channel]

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                          It seems that your PCIe version is 2.0 - it should not be a deadly problem but you will not get the maximum out of a board with version 3.0... You may see this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkBTSlBW2oc[^] (Consider to recycle the board graphics card...)

                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                          "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                          • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                            Another option is the PCIe port, does it support version 3.0?

                            Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                            For what I've seen in the Internet (dangerous place I know) the PCIe 3 is backwards compatible with 2.0 and therefore it should work without issue.

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                            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                              I could use one of those cards: my hands are freezing in here! :laugh:

                              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                              Joan M
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                              :laugh:

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                              • J Jochen Arndt

                                If the card has an additional power connector, it must be connected. This should be mentioned in the (quick install) manual. The OC indicates an overclocked version. These usually have an additional connector. If the current PSU did not has a power line for GPU cards, it must be replaced. As already mentioned by others, the PSU should be replaced anyway to provide the necessary power when required.

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                                OK, the GPU has no extra ports to receive power... The PSU is 300W capable. It should be only an issue of changing the PSU for another one that could deliver >=400W. shouldn't it?

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                                • J Joan M

                                  In their specs (at the card box) it says no extra cables needed, I asked that in the shop too and before buying I saw it in their web site... so they are asking for 400W without cables... Why should it be madness?

                                  [www.tamautomation.com] | Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing. [YouTube channel]

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                                  The 400 W is the recommended power that must be supplied by the PSU. It is not the power required by the GPU card. Form the Nvidia homepage for the GTX750 (normal version): Max. power consumption: 55 W Min. PSU pwoer: 300 W Your GPU seems to be an overclocked version ("OC") that might draw more. The PCIe x16 slot is able to provide about 75 W. If the card requires more power, an additional connector must be provided. Overall the card should work but the PSU might be at its limit when the GPU card is at full power.

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                                  • J Joan M

                                    For what I've seen in the Internet (dangerous place I know) the PCIe 3 is backwards compatible with 2.0 and therefore it should work without issue.

                                    [www.tamautomation.com] | Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing. [YouTube channel]

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                                    That's a nice theory, and mostly true, but sometimes you need a little help from the BIOS...In any case you will loose performance...

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                                    • J Joan M

                                      OK, the GPU has no extra ports to receive power... The PSU is 300W capable. It should be only an issue of changing the PSU for another one that could deliver >=400W. shouldn't it?

                                      [www.tamautomation.com] | Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing. [YouTube channel]

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                                      See my other post above. The card should work. Yours may be defective or there is general problem with this card and your system (mainboard). [EDIT] Another reason may be that the PSU is not able to deliver enough power upon system start. At startup most parts draw more power than during normal operation (disk drive motors are starting, fans running with max. speed).

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                                      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                        The snow still on? Poor bastards...[^]

                                        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                        No, we had some more Friday night / yesterday morning, but that's worn out now. It's just bitter out there, and there's no heat in my office. Normally not a problem, but I'm getting older and starting to feel the cold in my fingers. :sigh:

                                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          No, we had some more Friday night / yesterday morning, but that's worn out now. It's just bitter out there, and there's no heat in my office. Normally not a problem, but I'm getting older and starting to feel the cold in my fingers. :sigh:

                                          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                          Try this: http://androidspin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/tahka.jpg[^] :laugh:

                                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                                          "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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