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    Single Step Debugger
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    Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)

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      Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)

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      .NET It is sluggish, heavy and the framework is poorly documented. The learning curve is way steeper than the COM one, considering that many framework classes are encapsulated COM this shouldn't surprise anyone.

      Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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        Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)

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        Deyan Georgiev wrote:

        but Java is dead for good

        I don't know what planet you are coding on, but I assure you, Java is not dead.

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          Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)

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          java. It's terrible. MySQL. It's terrible (which is strange considering it is from Oracle) XML is, more or less OK although this does depend on the need. Here we work with CSV, ASCII, xls and FITS files all with their good and bad and worse formats, so here it's not technology itself, but rather how they use it. Linux. Some swear by it, I hate it. openoffice/libreoffice. :doh: open office is probably all right, but libre office? :wtf: iTunes. They should execute the humans involved in this piece of cr*p. Most technologies are OK depending on how you use them.

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            Deyan Georgiev wrote:

            but Java is dead for good

            I don't know what planet you are coding on, but I assure you, Java is not dead.

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            unfortunately :-D

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              Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)

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              The zipper. I hate it when it gets stuck and I have to nearly tear away half the cloth to unstuck it.

              I'd rather be phishing!

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                Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)

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                Web stack - any of them

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                  java. It's terrible. MySQL. It's terrible (which is strange considering it is from Oracle) XML is, more or less OK although this does depend on the need. Here we work with CSV, ASCII, xls and FITS files all with their good and bad and worse formats, so here it's not technology itself, but rather how they use it. Linux. Some swear by it, I hate it. openoffice/libreoffice. :doh: open office is probably all right, but libre office? :wtf: iTunes. They should execute the humans involved in this piece of cr*p. Most technologies are OK depending on how you use them.

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                  I agree with you on each point :omg: except on MySQL, only because I never used it ;P

                  Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                    unfortunately :-D

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                    Java is a good language. I don't knock it. As with any language or technology, there are those who know how, and those that don't know how.

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                      The zipper. I hate it when it gets stuck and I have to nearly tear away half the cloth to unstuck it.

                      I'd rather be phishing!

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                      We've got a bleeder!

                      :laugh:

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                        I agree with you on each point :omg: except on MySQL, only because I never used it ;P

                        Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                        an example. MySql doesn't support milliseconds in their datetime objects... See here[^] However, when MySQL stores a value into a column of any temporal data type, it discards any fractional part and does not store it.

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                          Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)

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                          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                          The phone on my desk - it is able to handle almost any kind of singe-/multi- conversation, but I almost unable to handle it... I'm also terrified of fax-machines, each of them...

                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                            Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                            but Java is dead for good

                            I don't know what planet you are coding on, but I assure you, Java is not dead.

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                            Single Step Debugger
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                            If I quote CG "Java is like this Japanese soldier, who fought WWII in the jungle twenty years after the war was over". So Java may popup time to time, just to annoy the people, and is still supported from some organizations like Oracle for example, put it pretty much dropped from the technology main stream years ago.

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                              Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)

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                              Jorgen Andersson
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                              Systems Hungarian! :mad: Oh technology, sorry. :-O

                              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                                The phone on my desk - it is able to handle almost any kind of singe-/multi- conversation, but I almost unable to handle it... I'm also terrified of fax-machines, each of them...

                                Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                I recoil in terror if my desk phone rings

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                                  Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                                  but Java is dead for good

                                  I don't know what planet you are coding on, but I assure you, Java is not dead.

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                                  PhilLenoir
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                                  Well, I really keep trying to kill it, but I'm only one man!

                                  Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                                    I recoil in terror if my desk phone rings

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                                    I turned the ringer off on mine years ago, been loads better ever since.

                                    Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                                      Java is a good language. I don't knock it. As with any language or technology, there are those who know how, and those that don't know how.

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                                      Java is a good language, that's true. But the language and it's structure is just the tip of the iceberg. The accompanying libraries and technologies are more important. And I've never been very happy with the Java related technologies.

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                                        I recoil in terror if my desk phone rings

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                                        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                                        The ringing isn't the problem, but when some-one asks me to transfer the call I'm starting to sweat...

                                        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                                        "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                                          Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)

                                          There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                                          That about covers it.

                                          We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc.

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