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    java. It's terrible. MySQL. It's terrible (which is strange considering it is from Oracle) XML is, more or less OK although this does depend on the need. Here we work with CSV, ASCII, xls and FITS files all with their good and bad and worse formats, so here it's not technology itself, but rather how they use it. Linux. Some swear by it, I hate it. openoffice/libreoffice. :doh: open office is probably all right, but libre office? :wtf: iTunes. They should execute the humans involved in this piece of cr*p. Most technologies are OK depending on how you use them.

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    I agree with you on each point :omg: except on MySQL, only because I never used it ;P

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      The zipper. I hate it when it gets stuck and I have to nearly tear away half the cloth to unstuck it.

      I'd rather be phishing!

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      We've got a bleeder!

      :laugh:

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        unfortunately :-D

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        Java is a good language. I don't knock it. As with any language or technology, there are those who know how, and those that don't know how.

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          I agree with you on each point :omg: except on MySQL, only because I never used it ;P

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          an example. MySql doesn't support milliseconds in their datetime objects... See here[^] However, when MySQL stores a value into a column of any temporal data type, it discards any fractional part and does not store it.

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            Deyan Georgiev wrote:

            but Java is dead for good

            I don't know what planet you are coding on, but I assure you, Java is not dead.

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            If I quote CG "Java is like this Japanese soldier, who fought WWII in the jungle twenty years after the war was over". So Java may popup time to time, just to annoy the people, and is still supported from some organizations like Oracle for example, put it pretty much dropped from the technology main stream years ago.

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              Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)

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              Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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              The phone on my desk - it is able to handle almost any kind of singe-/multi- conversation, but I almost unable to handle it... I'm also terrified of fax-machines, each of them...

              Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)

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                Jorgen Andersson
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                Systems Hungarian! :mad: Oh technology, sorry. :-O

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                • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                  The phone on my desk - it is able to handle almost any kind of singe-/multi- conversation, but I almost unable to handle it... I'm also terrified of fax-machines, each of them...

                  Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                  I recoil in terror if my desk phone rings

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                    Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                    but Java is dead for good

                    I don't know what planet you are coding on, but I assure you, Java is not dead.

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                    PhilLenoir
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                    Well, I really keep trying to kill it, but I'm only one man!

                    Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                      I recoil in terror if my desk phone rings

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                      chriselst
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                      I turned the ringer off on mine years ago, been loads better ever since.

                      Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                        Java is a good language. I don't knock it. As with any language or technology, there are those who know how, and those that don't know how.

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                        Single Step Debugger
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                        Java is a good language, that's true. But the language and it's structure is just the tip of the iceberg. The accompanying libraries and technologies are more important. And I've never been very happy with the Java related technologies.

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                          I recoil in terror if my desk phone rings

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                          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                          The ringing isn't the problem, but when some-one asks me to transfer the call I'm starting to sweat...

                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                          "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                            Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)

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                            GenJerDan
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                            That about covers it.

                            We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc.

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                            • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                              The ringing isn't the problem, but when some-one asks me to transfer the call I'm starting to sweat...

                              Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                              RugbyLeague
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                              I just pretend to drop the handset. Transferring calls is meddling in the affairs of wizards

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                                java. It's terrible. MySQL. It's terrible (which is strange considering it is from Oracle) XML is, more or less OK although this does depend on the need. Here we work with CSV, ASCII, xls and FITS files all with their good and bad and worse formats, so here it's not technology itself, but rather how they use it. Linux. Some swear by it, I hate it. openoffice/libreoffice. :doh: open office is probably all right, but libre office? :wtf: iTunes. They should execute the humans involved in this piece of cr*p. Most technologies are OK depending on how you use them.

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                                Albert Holguin
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                                V. wrote:

                                Linux. Some swear by it, I hate it

                                You just have to use it enough to get used to it.... then the flexibility of it becomes quickly apparent (and neat).

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                                iTunes. They should execute the humans involved in this piece of cr*p.

                                I hate this piece of crap.... and Apple...

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                                  Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)

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                                  Jeremy Falcon
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                                  I'm too busy having a life to actually hate a piece of software. Although, if I were to say something off the top of my head I'd imagine most things you can find on CNET are a pile of dung.

                                  Jeremy Falcon

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                                    Java is a good language, that's true. But the language and it's structure is just the tip of the iceberg. The accompanying libraries and technologies are more important. And I've never been very happy with the Java related technologies.

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                                    I make my living with C#, and I complain about it everyday. It is anything but perfect, but it is better than stone tablets and post-it notes. :)

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                                      The ringing isn't the problem, but when some-one asks me to transfer the call I'm starting to sweat...

                                      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                      Pualee
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                                      I had a person call my phone at my job (once). I really don't know why I have a phone. I write code... I don't talk to people unless it is about the code... why do I have a phone? This particular call was from an unrecognized number. I was thinking maybe it is important (this was a new job and I wasn't sure if I was expected to talk on the phone or not - it wasn't in the job description, but I wanted to do my best!) Anyway, it was an irate customer. She kept stating she was very dissatisfied (like I could comp her bill or get someone to fix her issue). I told her she had the wrong number and I was a software developer. She insisted this was the number to call. I repeated it was not (but tried to be polite) and directed her to the customer support number on our webpage. Again, she said she had called it numerous times and was very dissatisfied. She demanded to be transferred to a VP! I didn't know any VPs at the time, and I surely didn't know how to transfer a call. And I had no idea which VP could possibly help a very dissatisfied customer who had not yet explained her problem. Not being one to hang up I started to panic, sweat, and then I grabbed my boss. I handed him the phone and watched the whole thing play out again. Luckily, he knew how to transfer her to the customer support number on the webpage (where she had previously been very dissatisfied). Then he looked at me with large exasperated eyes and directed me to NEVER ANSWER THE PHONE AGAIN! I said ok, because, it really isn't in my job description anyway.

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                                        I had a person call my phone at my job (once). I really don't know why I have a phone. I write code... I don't talk to people unless it is about the code... why do I have a phone? This particular call was from an unrecognized number. I was thinking maybe it is important (this was a new job and I wasn't sure if I was expected to talk on the phone or not - it wasn't in the job description, but I wanted to do my best!) Anyway, it was an irate customer. She kept stating she was very dissatisfied (like I could comp her bill or get someone to fix her issue). I told her she had the wrong number and I was a software developer. She insisted this was the number to call. I repeated it was not (but tried to be polite) and directed her to the customer support number on our webpage. Again, she said she had called it numerous times and was very dissatisfied. She demanded to be transferred to a VP! I didn't know any VPs at the time, and I surely didn't know how to transfer a call. And I had no idea which VP could possibly help a very dissatisfied customer who had not yet explained her problem. Not being one to hang up I started to panic, sweat, and then I grabbed my boss. I handed him the phone and watched the whole thing play out again. Luckily, he knew how to transfer her to the customer support number on the webpage (where she had previously been very dissatisfied). Then he looked at me with large exasperated eyes and directed me to NEVER ANSWER THE PHONE AGAIN! I said ok, because, it really isn't in my job description anyway.

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                                        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                                        :laugh:

                                        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                          Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)

                                          There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                                          For a list of all the ways technology has failed to improve the quality of life, please press 3. --Alice Kahn

                                          If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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