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  • M Marc Clifton

    I'm doing a phone interview tomorrow with the lead tech guy and he, and I quote: "wants to make sure that your strategies align more with Ruby best practices as opposed to a more traditionally .NET approach." Now, what exactly does that mean? From my experience, Ruby developers have piss poor practices, but I really wonder Ruby brings to the table in terms of practices that are somehow different from "traditional" .NET approaches. All I can think of is leveraging features like mixins that promote bad OO practices. Anyone have a clue? More generally, would you say that [Java / C / PHP / F# / etc.] has best practices that distinguish it from "traditional .NET" development? Marc

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    Sander Rossel
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    It means you have to leverage solutions across platforms to maximize output and increase shareholder value![^] :D

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      FYI, these posts ended up in the Moderation Queue and I passed them through. Soren Madsen

      "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

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      Nagy Vilmos
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      Why? What? How?

      veni bibi saltavi

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        Why? What? How?

        veni bibi saltavi

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        SoMad
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        Not sure. Perhaps the filter confused the word 'duck' with something else ;)

        "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

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          FYI, these posts ended up in the Moderation Queue and I passed them through. Soren Madsen

          "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

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          Can you send such "false positives" to Matthew? http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/5003342/Re-The-Spam-detector-seems-to-be-getting-a-little.aspx[^]

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Can you send such "false positives" to Matthew? http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/5003342/Re-The-Spam-detector-seems-to-be-getting-a-little.aspx[^]

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            SoMad
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            Hmmm. My reply to this went straight to the queue. :rolleyes:

            "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

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              It means you have to leverage solutions across platforms to maximize output and increase shareholder value![^] :D

              My blog[^]

              public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
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              You forgt to include "monetize opportunities". :wtf:

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              • M Marc Clifton

                I'm doing a phone interview tomorrow with the lead tech guy and he, and I quote: "wants to make sure that your strategies align more with Ruby best practices as opposed to a more traditionally .NET approach." Now, what exactly does that mean? From my experience, Ruby developers have piss poor practices, but I really wonder Ruby brings to the table in terms of practices that are somehow different from "traditional" .NET approaches. All I can think of is leveraging features like mixins that promote bad OO practices. Anyone have a clue? More generally, would you say that [Java / C / PHP / F# / etc.] has best practices that distinguish it from "traditional .NET" development? Marc

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                Fredrik Bornander
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                Marc Clifton wrote:

                make sure that your strategies align

                I am so using that phrase next time I am interviewing someone.

                Try Hovercraft for Android, voted "a game" by players.

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  I'm doing a phone interview tomorrow with the lead tech guy and he, and I quote: "wants to make sure that your strategies align more with Ruby best practices as opposed to a more traditionally .NET approach." Now, what exactly does that mean? From my experience, Ruby developers have piss poor practices, but I really wonder Ruby brings to the table in terms of practices that are somehow different from "traditional" .NET approaches. All I can think of is leveraging features like mixins that promote bad OO practices. Anyone have a clue? More generally, would you say that [Java / C / PHP / F# / etc.] has best practices that distinguish it from "traditional .NET" development? Marc

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                  Dominic Burford
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                  Surely it doesn't matter if your strategies come from Ruby, .NET or Mars. If you can write clean, well designed and structured code that meets or exceeds the client's expectations, then it's irrelevant. If I came across that statement from the "lead" tech for a job interview, I'd seriously question their credentials.

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                    Hmmm. My reply to this went straight to the queue. :rolleyes:

                    "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

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                    Nagy Vilmos
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                    I seem to be in the antispambots bad books.

                    veni bibi saltavi

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                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                      I seem to be in the antispambots bad books.

                      veni bibi saltavi

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                      Maybe the antispam is crossed that you drank all of its gin reserve. It is a petty entity, I'd never be crossed for such a minor thing but stay away from the Whisky if you value your continued existence :-D

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        I'm doing a phone interview tomorrow with the lead tech guy and he, and I quote: "wants to make sure that your strategies align more with Ruby best practices as opposed to a more traditionally .NET approach." Now, what exactly does that mean? From my experience, Ruby developers have piss poor practices, but I really wonder Ruby brings to the table in terms of practices that are somehow different from "traditional" .NET approaches. All I can think of is leveraging features like mixins that promote bad OO practices. Anyone have a clue? More generally, would you say that [Java / C / PHP / F# / etc.] has best practices that distinguish it from "traditional .NET" development? Marc

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                        GuyThiebaut
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                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                        "wants to make sure that your strategies align more with Ruby best practices as opposed to a more traditionally .NET approach."

                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                        Now, what exactly does that mean?

                        Quite simply it means nothing! I have worked businesses where a number of people use business jargon and nothing else - apart from finding it highly irritating it quite simply is a means of obscuring their lack of knowledge in an area while trying to sound impressive. Best practice - whatever gets the job done making future maintenance as straightforward as possible, in other words doing what you are paid to do.

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                        • N Nagy Vilmos

                          I am guessing he is either: - talking about building up classes using Ruby's strengths and understanding how to apply duck typing in the best ways, or - talking out of his arse.

                          veni bibi saltavi

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                          GuyThiebaut
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                          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                          duck typing

                          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                          - talking out of his arse.

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            Can you send such "false positives" to Matthew? http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/5003342/Re-The-Spam-detector-seems-to-be-getting-a-little.aspx[^]

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                            Sure. BTW, there are currently 2 posts from Kornfeld in the Moderation Queue.

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                              Not sure. Perhaps the filter confused the word 'duck' with something else ;)

                              "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

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                              "arse" is a naughty word.

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                              • D den2k88

                                Maybe the antispam is crossed that you drank all of its gin reserve. It is a petty entity, I'd never be crossed for such a minor thing but stay away from the Whisky if you value your continued existence :-D

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                                It's female, then.

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                                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                                  make sure that your strategies align

                                  I am so using that phrase next time I am interviewing someone.

                                  Try Hovercraft for Android, voted "a game" by players.

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                                  Mark_Wallace
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                                  Unless I'm employing someone to create strategies, they can keep their strategies at home -- that's as "aligned" as they need to be.

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  • G GuyThiebaut

                                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                                    "wants to make sure that your strategies align more with Ruby best practices as opposed to a more traditionally .NET approach."

                                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                                    Now, what exactly does that mean?

                                    Quite simply it means nothing! I have worked businesses where a number of people use business jargon and nothing else - apart from finding it highly irritating it quite simply is a means of obscuring their lack of knowledge in an area while trying to sound impressive. Best practice - whatever gets the job done making future maintenance as straightforward as possible, in other words doing what you are paid to do.

                                    “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                    ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                    Mark_Wallace
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                                    Nope. He wants continuous, built-in testing. Ignore this at your peril.

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                                    • M Marc Clifton

                                      I'm doing a phone interview tomorrow with the lead tech guy and he, and I quote: "wants to make sure that your strategies align more with Ruby best practices as opposed to a more traditionally .NET approach." Now, what exactly does that mean? From my experience, Ruby developers have piss poor practices, but I really wonder Ruby brings to the table in terms of practices that are somehow different from "traditional" .NET approaches. All I can think of is leveraging features like mixins that promote bad OO practices. Anyone have a clue? More generally, would you say that [Java / C / PHP / F# / etc.] has best practices that distinguish it from "traditional .NET" development? Marc

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                                      May I translate: We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Your existence as you know it is over and you will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile. Or even simpler: We want to go sure that any crap we have produced, be it as unconventional as it wants, will be adopted by you as best practice. If you have the option: Run as fast and as far you can.

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                                      • M Mark_Wallace

                                        Unless I'm employing someone to create strategies, they can keep their strategies at home -- that's as "aligned" as they need to be.

                                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                        Fredrik Bornander
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                                        Just the sort of comment I'd expect from someone with misalignment all over their strategies!

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                                        • M Marc Clifton

                                          I'm doing a phone interview tomorrow with the lead tech guy and he, and I quote: "wants to make sure that your strategies align more with Ruby best practices as opposed to a more traditionally .NET approach." Now, what exactly does that mean? From my experience, Ruby developers have piss poor practices, but I really wonder Ruby brings to the table in terms of practices that are somehow different from "traditional" .NET approaches. All I can think of is leveraging features like mixins that promote bad OO practices. Anyone have a clue? More generally, would you say that [Java / C / PHP / F# / etc.] has best practices that distinguish it from "traditional .NET" development? Marc

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                                          Rahul Rajat Singh
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                                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                                          "wants to make sure that your strategies align more with Ruby best practices as opposed to a more traditionally .NET approach."

                                          I think this statement is a preemptive strike from the the interviewer. What he really is trying to say is - If you try to outsmart me with your knowledge, i'll throw in a "this is not how its done in Ruby" trump card and save my ego.

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