Many devs, by nature, are also entrepreneurs?
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How many is many? A dozen? Speaking mainly from my own experience, I believe that very few developers would be good at running a business. And historically, there have been fewer than a hundred I expect. They get a lot of attention because they're so rare.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
very few developers would be good at running a business
Ah, yes you are probably right, because many of us just want to code and focus on technical details. Running a business requires so much other surrounding work.
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As I became a software developer I became more of an entrepreneur. I love the idea of engineering a company into existence just as I do software. I really like great books about this too. I am currently reading Guy Kawasaki's fantastic book, The Art of the Start 2.0[^]. I wonder if you find this to be true in your life also. I am very interested in taking an idea as simple as my new web site: X-- link removed by request --X and turning it into something a lot of people are interested in. Do you ever dream of building something bigger than software? What is Quotimal? It is a daily great or funny quote along with an cute animal picture. I'm serious. Check it out and re-post it, tweet it. Every day a new one. What Benefit Does Quotimal.com Offer? It is meant only to make you smile. But a little more too. Watch this fantastic Ted Talk by Jane McGonigal author of Reality Is Broken (https://www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_the_game_that_can_give_you_10_extra_years_of_life?language=en[^]) and notice that she mentions the life benefits of such a small thing.
I think you deduction is very wrong, not only are most developers not entrepreneurs but they are pathetic at running a business. I hold myself up as an example, I have run 2 failed software companies in my time before I admitted I was hopeless as a businessman. Now I won't even take a management role! I admire the few who can transition from a developer to running a business, I would have liked to work for a few of them. Some of us are just not leaders and we tend to be much happier when we accept and work within our limitations. A bloody good developer, not a businessman!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
very few developers would be good at running a business
Ah, yes you are probably right, because many of us just want to code and focus on technical details. Running a business requires so much other surrounding work.
And we're likely to just give our stuff away to anyone who wants it. Not generally a very mercenary bunch.
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I think you deduction is very wrong, not only are most developers not entrepreneurs but they are pathetic at running a business. I hold myself up as an example, I have run 2 failed software companies in my time before I admitted I was hopeless as a businessman. Now I won't even take a management role! I admire the few who can transition from a developer to running a business, I would have liked to work for a few of them. Some of us are just not leaders and we tend to be much happier when we accept and work within our limitations. A bloody good developer, not a businessman!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
most developers not entrepreneurs but they are pathetic at running a business.
Yeah, I know and I agree with you on this. I understand what you mean and what others are saying too. I think what I was thinking is more about the risks (entrepreneur) of trying to build something and make something. Not necessarily running a business straight up, but the challenges of making something that solves a problem.
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And we're likely to just give our stuff away to anyone who wants it. Not generally a very mercenary bunch.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
we're likely to just _give_ our stuff away to anyone who wants it.
:thumbsup: I'm sure you meant to say "give". You are right about that too. I feel that way. One of the huge pleasures of making something is getting someone to use it Obviously a lot of us feel that way because we do it at CP with our articles. :) The money part isn't very fun. It would be nice if we could all make the products we want without concern of making money. I guess that's why we contribute to CP and why we make other things with no thought of monetary gain. :thumbsup:
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
we're likely to just _give_ our stuff away to anyone who wants it.
:thumbsup: I'm sure you meant to say "give". You are right about that too. I feel that way. One of the huge pleasures of making something is getting someone to use it Obviously a lot of us feel that way because we do it at CP with our articles. :) The money part isn't very fun. It would be nice if we could all make the products we want without concern of making money. I guess that's why we contribute to CP and why we make other things with no thought of monetary gain. :thumbsup:
Yes, yes I did.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
our website is missing some share buttons. And a lot more too.
That was really nice of you to even take a look at the thing and then to take time for feedback. I really appreciate it. And you are right about all the missing features. :) Thanks,
Keep me updated. Not here in the lounge, I might miss that. Send me an email or something when your site is ready (or at least more ready). Looking forward to it. I'm probably running ahead of things, but a Quotimal editor would be cool too. Make your own Quotimal, just like Memes :D
Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
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As I became a software developer I became more of an entrepreneur. I love the idea of engineering a company into existence just as I do software. I really like great books about this too. I am currently reading Guy Kawasaki's fantastic book, The Art of the Start 2.0[^]. I wonder if you find this to be true in your life also. I am very interested in taking an idea as simple as my new web site: X-- link removed by request --X and turning it into something a lot of people are interested in. Do you ever dream of building something bigger than software? What is Quotimal? It is a daily great or funny quote along with an cute animal picture. I'm serious. Check it out and re-post it, tweet it. Every day a new one. What Benefit Does Quotimal.com Offer? It is meant only to make you smile. But a little more too. Watch this fantastic Ted Talk by Jane McGonigal author of Reality Is Broken (https://www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_the_game_that_can_give_you_10_extra_years_of_life?language=en[^]) and notice that she mentions the life benefits of such a small thing.
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I think you deduction is very wrong, not only are most developers not entrepreneurs but they are pathetic at running a business. I hold myself up as an example, I have run 2 failed software companies in my time before I admitted I was hopeless as a businessman. Now I won't even take a management role! I admire the few who can transition from a developer to running a business, I would have liked to work for a few of them. Some of us are just not leaders and we tend to be much happier when we accept and work within our limitations. A bloody good developer, not a businessman!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
A wiser person than me said: "A man's got to know his limitations". I don't feel comfortable enough to drive a business, and seeing my girlfriend (Management Engineering) managing a big fantasy convention I confirmed it. I'm a way better developer/problem solver than a businessman.
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As I became a software developer I became more of an entrepreneur. I love the idea of engineering a company into existence just as I do software. I really like great books about this too. I am currently reading Guy Kawasaki's fantastic book, The Art of the Start 2.0[^]. I wonder if you find this to be true in your life also. I am very interested in taking an idea as simple as my new web site: X-- link removed by request --X and turning it into something a lot of people are interested in. Do you ever dream of building something bigger than software? What is Quotimal? It is a daily great or funny quote along with an cute animal picture. I'm serious. Check it out and re-post it, tweet it. Every day a new one. What Benefit Does Quotimal.com Offer? It is meant only to make you smile. But a little more too. Watch this fantastic Ted Talk by Jane McGonigal author of Reality Is Broken (https://www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_the_game_that_can_give_you_10_extra_years_of_life?language=en[^]) and notice that she mentions the life benefits of such a small thing.
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As I became a software developer I became more of an entrepreneur. I love the idea of engineering a company into existence just as I do software. I really like great books about this too. I am currently reading Guy Kawasaki's fantastic book, The Art of the Start 2.0[^]. I wonder if you find this to be true in your life also. I am very interested in taking an idea as simple as my new web site: X-- link removed by request --X and turning it into something a lot of people are interested in. Do you ever dream of building something bigger than software? What is Quotimal? It is a daily great or funny quote along with an cute animal picture. I'm serious. Check it out and re-post it, tweet it. Every day a new one. What Benefit Does Quotimal.com Offer? It is meant only to make you smile. But a little more too. Watch this fantastic Ted Talk by Jane McGonigal author of Reality Is Broken (https://www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_the_game_that_can_give_you_10_extra_years_of_life?language=en[^]) and notice that she mentions the life benefits of such a small thing.
I think using html5 canvas and javascript just to show an image is a bit over the top when you could just style your img tag using css and all browsers can access your site. Second of all "You're browser does not support HTML5." :)
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Keep me updated. Not here in the lounge, I might miss that. Send me an email or something when your site is ready (or at least more ready). Looking forward to it. I'm probably running ahead of things, but a Quotimal editor would be cool too. Make your own Quotimal, just like Memes :D
Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
Thanks again. That's really nice. Also you are thinking of some functionality that I was hoping to do myself. Great stuff. I'll keep you updated.
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I think using html5 canvas and javascript just to show an image is a bit over the top when you could just style your img tag using css and all browsers can access your site. Second of all "You're browser does not support HTML5." :)
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
"You're browser does not support HTML5."
Who said I wanted all browsers to be able to access my site? :D I'm trying to keep the people on Windows XP out!! :) Thanks for the input.
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Request you to please remove link which can be considered adv. I totally understand that you didn't post that intentionally but some members have objection[^] to this post. I'm not going to report anything.
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Link removed. Tell a friend, bring a buddy.
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F-ES Sitecore wrote:
"You're browser does not support HTML5."
Who said I wanted all browsers to be able to access my site? :D I'm trying to keep the people on Windows XP out!! :) Thanks for the input.
*your ;P :laugh:
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These seems appropriate response from you. I removed the link. Thanks for your input.
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*your ;P :laugh:
Oh wow! I didn't even notice that mis-spelling. That is really lame of me. :thumbsdown:
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These seems appropriate response from you. I removed the link. Thanks for your input.
The rules are, apparently, that you can put a link to it in your sig, but not promote it in any way.
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Link removed. Tell a friend, bring a buddy.
Thank you.
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I think you deduction is very wrong, not only are most developers not entrepreneurs but they are pathetic at running a business. I hold myself up as an example, I have run 2 failed software companies in my time before I admitted I was hopeless as a businessman. Now I won't even take a management role! I admire the few who can transition from a developer to running a business, I would have liked to work for a few of them. Some of us are just not leaders and we tend to be much happier when we accept and work within our limitations. A bloody good developer, not a businessman!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Well, an entrepreneur developer don't have to necessarily be the business person. This is why having good partners goes a long way to the success. Entrepreneur means you like to create a service that generate revenue, instead of selling your time. Thinking that the developer needs to be a business person for entrepreneurship is fallacy and dangerous if he does not like it.
