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Many devs, by nature, are also entrepreneurs?

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  • N newton saber

    As I became a software developer I became more of an entrepreneur. I love the idea of engineering a company into existence just as I do software. I really like great books about this too. I am currently reading Guy Kawasaki's fantastic book, The Art of the Start 2.0[^]. I wonder if you find this to be true in your life also. I am very interested in taking an idea as simple as my new web site: X-- link removed by request --X and turning it into something a lot of people are interested in. Do you ever dream of building something bigger than software? What is Quotimal? It is a daily great or funny quote along with an cute animal picture. I'm serious. Check it out and re-post it, tweet it. Every day a new one. What Benefit Does Quotimal.com Offer? It is meant only to make you smile. But a little more too. Watch this fantastic Ted Talk by Jane McGonigal author of Reality Is Broken (https://www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_the_game_that_can_give_you_10_extra_years_of_life?language=en[^]) and notice that she mentions the life benefits of such a small thing.

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    F ES Sitecore
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    I think using html5 canvas and javascript just to show an image is a bit over the top when you could just style your img tag using css and all browsers can access your site. Second of all "You're browser does not support HTML5." :)

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      Keep me updated. Not here in the lounge, I might miss that. Send me an email or something when your site is ready (or at least more ready). Looking forward to it. I'm probably running ahead of things, but a Quotimal editor would be cool too. Make your own Quotimal, just like Memes :D

      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

      Regards, Sander

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      newton saber
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      Thanks again. That's really nice. Also you are thinking of some functionality that I was hoping to do myself. Great stuff. I'll keep you updated.

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      • F F ES Sitecore

        I think using html5 canvas and javascript just to show an image is a bit over the top when you could just style your img tag using css and all browsers can access your site. Second of all "You're browser does not support HTML5." :)

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        newton saber
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        F-ES Sitecore wrote:

        "You're browser does not support HTML5."

        Who said I wanted all browsers to be able to access my site? :D I'm trying to keep the people on Windows XP out!! :) Thanks for the input.

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        • T Thanks7872

          Request you to please remove link which can be considered adv. I totally understand that you didn't post that intentionally but some members have objection[^] to this post. I'm not going to report anything.

          Programmer : A machine that converts coffee into code !

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          newton saber
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          Link removed. Tell a friend, bring a buddy.

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          • N newton saber

            F-ES Sitecore wrote:

            "You're browser does not support HTML5."

            Who said I wanted all browsers to be able to access my site? :D I'm trying to keep the people on Windows XP out!! :) Thanks for the input.

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            *your ;P :laugh:

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            • M Munchies_Matt

              Spam! No advertising in the lounge.

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              newton saber
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              These seems appropriate response from you. I removed the link. Thanks for your input.

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                *your ;P :laugh:

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                newton saber
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                Oh wow! I didn't even notice that mis-spelling. That is really lame of me. :thumbsdown:

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                • N newton saber

                  These seems appropriate response from you. I removed the link. Thanks for your input.

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                  The rules are, apparently, that you can put a link to it in your sig, but not promote it in any way.

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                  • N newton saber

                    Link removed. Tell a friend, bring a buddy.

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                    Thank you.

                    Programmer : A machine that converts coffee into code !

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                    • M Mycroft Holmes

                      I think you deduction is very wrong, not only are most developers not entrepreneurs but they are pathetic at running a business. I hold myself up as an example, I have run 2 failed software companies in my time before I admitted I was hopeless as a businessman. Now I won't even take a management role! I admire the few who can transition from a developer to running a business, I would have liked to work for a few of them. Some of us are just not leaders and we tend to be much happier when we accept and work within our limitations. A bloody good developer, not a businessman!

                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                      Nicolas Dorier
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                      Well, an entrepreneur developer don't have to necessarily be the business person. This is why having good partners goes a long way to the success. Entrepreneur means you like to create a service that generate revenue, instead of selling your time. Thinking that the developer needs to be a business person for entrepreneurship is fallacy and dangerous if he does not like it.

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                      • N newton saber

                        As I became a software developer I became more of an entrepreneur. I love the idea of engineering a company into existence just as I do software. I really like great books about this too. I am currently reading Guy Kawasaki's fantastic book, The Art of the Start 2.0[^]. I wonder if you find this to be true in your life also. I am very interested in taking an idea as simple as my new web site: X-- link removed by request --X and turning it into something a lot of people are interested in. Do you ever dream of building something bigger than software? What is Quotimal? It is a daily great or funny quote along with an cute animal picture. I'm serious. Check it out and re-post it, tweet it. Every day a new one. What Benefit Does Quotimal.com Offer? It is meant only to make you smile. But a little more too. Watch this fantastic Ted Talk by Jane McGonigal author of Reality Is Broken (https://www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_the_game_that_can_give_you_10_extra_years_of_life?language=en[^]) and notice that she mentions the life benefits of such a small thing.

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                        Nicolas Dorier
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                        I will first respond to the fallacy of people thinking that a developer wanting to be entrepreneur needs to be a business man. This is false. This skill can be into one of your partners. A developer does not have to be a business man if he does not like it. Entrepreneur only means that you prefer creating a service that generate revenue instead of selling your time. Paycheck versus recurrent income and equities. It is a fallacy to mix up "being a business man" with "being an entrepreneur", these are two different things, you can be one without the other. It is not the nature developers to be entrepreneur, but the nature of their skills. Programming is one of the only job where you can create a service by investing nothing but your brain.

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                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                          newton.saber wrote:

                          Many devs, by nature, are also entrepreneurs?

                          I feel many devs, by nature, are just like people, bunglers :D (fun fact, first time I ever used that word in English, I use it daily in Dutch). I'm not an entrepeneur yet. Just bought a house, got a new job, happy the way I am. For now.

                          newton.saber wrote:

                          I'm serious. Check it out and re-post it, tweet it. Every day a new one.

                          Your website is missing some share buttons. And a lot more too. Like a nice layout that attracts people and makes them want to come back. And previous, next and random buttons. Perhaps a comment section. That sort of stuff. I want goodies like stickers, mugs and t-shirts too. Other than that I like the picture, I like the quote, I like the idea :thumbsup:

                          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                          Regards, Sander

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                          Mark_Wallace
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                          Sander Rossel wrote:

                          Your website is missing some share buttons. And a lot more too.

                          Lord Archer wouldn't have made those mistakes.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          • N Nicolas Dorier

                            I will first respond to the fallacy of people thinking that a developer wanting to be entrepreneur needs to be a business man. This is false. This skill can be into one of your partners. A developer does not have to be a business man if he does not like it. Entrepreneur only means that you prefer creating a service that generate revenue instead of selling your time. Paycheck versus recurrent income and equities. It is a fallacy to mix up "being a business man" with "being an entrepreneur", these are two different things, you can be one without the other. It is not the nature developers to be entrepreneur, but the nature of their skills. Programming is one of the only job where you can create a service by investing nothing but your brain.

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                            Mark_Wallace
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                            Steve Jobs was not a developer, and Steve Wozniak is not an entrepreneur. People who do what they are best at doing are usually successful at it.

                            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                            • M Mark_Wallace

                              Steve Jobs was not a developer, and Steve Wozniak is not an entrepreneur. People who do what they are best at doing are usually successful at it.

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              Nicolas Dorier
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                              you are wrong on the terminology. Steve Jobs is a business man and sales person. Wozniak is a developer. But both are entrepreneurs.

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                              • M Mark_Wallace

                                Sander Rossel wrote:

                                Your website is missing some share buttons. And a lot more too.

                                Lord Archer wouldn't have made those mistakes.

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                Sander Rossel
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                                I know exactly none of them[^] :sigh:

                                Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                Regards, Sander

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                                • N Nicolas Dorier

                                  I will first respond to the fallacy of people thinking that a developer wanting to be entrepreneur needs to be a business man. This is false. This skill can be into one of your partners. A developer does not have to be a business man if he does not like it. Entrepreneur only means that you prefer creating a service that generate revenue instead of selling your time. Paycheck versus recurrent income and equities. It is a fallacy to mix up "being a business man" with "being an entrepreneur", these are two different things, you can be one without the other. It is not the nature developers to be entrepreneur, but the nature of their skills. Programming is one of the only job where you can create a service by investing nothing but your brain.

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                                  newton saber
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                                  Thanks for giving the feedback. I really like the things you say and agree with it. I think of entrepreneurship (if that is a word) as the new Maker Movement, where you make things you want, then others are interested in them and you provide those things and people pay a fair price for those things. But, alas, that is somewhat of a pipe dream, I know. :)

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                                  • N Nicolas Dorier

                                    you are wrong on the terminology. Steve Jobs is a business man and sales person. Wozniak is a developer. But both are entrepreneurs.

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                                    newton saber
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                                    Nicolas Dorier wrote:

                                    But both are entrepreneurs.

                                    That's the way I see it too, but I see I've confused people with that term. Steve Jobs was a risk-taker / maker but more focused on making business. Woz was risk-taker / maker but more focused on making things. They are very similar yet I see the strong differences too. Great feedback. Thanks for continuing the conversation.

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                                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                      I know exactly none of them[^] :sigh:

                                      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                      Regards, Sander

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                                      In typical Monday-morning fashion (after watching another useless Lord-Archer type on TV, saying that he would not stand as British PM for a third term), I typed "Lord Archer" instead of "Lord Sugar".

                                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                      • M Mark_Wallace

                                        In typical Monday-morning fashion (after watching another useless Lord-Archer type on TV, saying that he would not stand as British PM for a third term), I typed "Lord Archer" instead of "Lord Sugar".

                                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                        Sander Rossel
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                                        I don't know Lord Sugar either. I'm sorry, but your jokes are wasted on me today :laugh:

                                        Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                        Regards, Sander

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                                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                          I don't know Lord Sugar either. I'm sorry, but your jokes are wasted on me today :laugh:

                                          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                          Regards, Sander

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                                          Mark_Wallace
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                                          Erm, Alan Michael Sugar, founder of TRADing companies that took his initials. One of the signs of my misspent youth[^].

                                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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