Many devs, by nature, are also entrepreneurs?
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As I became a software developer I became more of an entrepreneur. I love the idea of engineering a company into existence just as I do software. I really like great books about this too. I am currently reading Guy Kawasaki's fantastic book, The Art of the Start 2.0[^]. I wonder if you find this to be true in your life also. I am very interested in taking an idea as simple as my new web site: X-- link removed by request --X and turning it into something a lot of people are interested in. Do you ever dream of building something bigger than software? What is Quotimal? It is a daily great or funny quote along with an cute animal picture. I'm serious. Check it out and re-post it, tweet it. Every day a new one. What Benefit Does Quotimal.com Offer? It is meant only to make you smile. But a little more too. Watch this fantastic Ted Talk by Jane McGonigal author of Reality Is Broken (https://www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_the_game_that_can_give_you_10_extra_years_of_life?language=en[^]) and notice that she mentions the life benefits of such a small thing.
I think you deduction is very wrong, not only are most developers not entrepreneurs but they are pathetic at running a business. I hold myself up as an example, I have run 2 failed software companies in my time before I admitted I was hopeless as a businessman. Now I won't even take a management role! I admire the few who can transition from a developer to running a business, I would have liked to work for a few of them. Some of us are just not leaders and we tend to be much happier when we accept and work within our limitations. A bloody good developer, not a businessman!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
very few developers would be good at running a business
Ah, yes you are probably right, because many of us just want to code and focus on technical details. Running a business requires so much other surrounding work.
And we're likely to just give our stuff away to anyone who wants it. Not generally a very mercenary bunch.
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I think you deduction is very wrong, not only are most developers not entrepreneurs but they are pathetic at running a business. I hold myself up as an example, I have run 2 failed software companies in my time before I admitted I was hopeless as a businessman. Now I won't even take a management role! I admire the few who can transition from a developer to running a business, I would have liked to work for a few of them. Some of us are just not leaders and we tend to be much happier when we accept and work within our limitations. A bloody good developer, not a businessman!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
most developers not entrepreneurs but they are pathetic at running a business.
Yeah, I know and I agree with you on this. I understand what you mean and what others are saying too. I think what I was thinking is more about the risks (entrepreneur) of trying to build something and make something. Not necessarily running a business straight up, but the challenges of making something that solves a problem.
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And we're likely to just give our stuff away to anyone who wants it. Not generally a very mercenary bunch.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
we're likely to just _give_ our stuff away to anyone who wants it.
:thumbsup: I'm sure you meant to say "give". You are right about that too. I feel that way. One of the huge pleasures of making something is getting someone to use it Obviously a lot of us feel that way because we do it at CP with our articles. :) The money part isn't very fun. It would be nice if we could all make the products we want without concern of making money. I guess that's why we contribute to CP and why we make other things with no thought of monetary gain. :thumbsup:
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
we're likely to just _give_ our stuff away to anyone who wants it.
:thumbsup: I'm sure you meant to say "give". You are right about that too. I feel that way. One of the huge pleasures of making something is getting someone to use it Obviously a lot of us feel that way because we do it at CP with our articles. :) The money part isn't very fun. It would be nice if we could all make the products we want without concern of making money. I guess that's why we contribute to CP and why we make other things with no thought of monetary gain. :thumbsup:
Yes, yes I did.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
our website is missing some share buttons. And a lot more too.
That was really nice of you to even take a look at the thing and then to take time for feedback. I really appreciate it. And you are right about all the missing features. :) Thanks,
Keep me updated. Not here in the lounge, I might miss that. Send me an email or something when your site is ready (or at least more ready). Looking forward to it. I'm probably running ahead of things, but a Quotimal editor would be cool too. Make your own Quotimal, just like Memes :D
Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
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As I became a software developer I became more of an entrepreneur. I love the idea of engineering a company into existence just as I do software. I really like great books about this too. I am currently reading Guy Kawasaki's fantastic book, The Art of the Start 2.0[^]. I wonder if you find this to be true in your life also. I am very interested in taking an idea as simple as my new web site: X-- link removed by request --X and turning it into something a lot of people are interested in. Do you ever dream of building something bigger than software? What is Quotimal? It is a daily great or funny quote along with an cute animal picture. I'm serious. Check it out and re-post it, tweet it. Every day a new one. What Benefit Does Quotimal.com Offer? It is meant only to make you smile. But a little more too. Watch this fantastic Ted Talk by Jane McGonigal author of Reality Is Broken (https://www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_the_game_that_can_give_you_10_extra_years_of_life?language=en[^]) and notice that she mentions the life benefits of such a small thing.
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I think you deduction is very wrong, not only are most developers not entrepreneurs but they are pathetic at running a business. I hold myself up as an example, I have run 2 failed software companies in my time before I admitted I was hopeless as a businessman. Now I won't even take a management role! I admire the few who can transition from a developer to running a business, I would have liked to work for a few of them. Some of us are just not leaders and we tend to be much happier when we accept and work within our limitations. A bloody good developer, not a businessman!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
A wiser person than me said: "A man's got to know his limitations". I don't feel comfortable enough to drive a business, and seeing my girlfriend (Management Engineering) managing a big fantasy convention I confirmed it. I'm a way better developer/problem solver than a businessman.
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As I became a software developer I became more of an entrepreneur. I love the idea of engineering a company into existence just as I do software. I really like great books about this too. I am currently reading Guy Kawasaki's fantastic book, The Art of the Start 2.0[^]. I wonder if you find this to be true in your life also. I am very interested in taking an idea as simple as my new web site: X-- link removed by request --X and turning it into something a lot of people are interested in. Do you ever dream of building something bigger than software? What is Quotimal? It is a daily great or funny quote along with an cute animal picture. I'm serious. Check it out and re-post it, tweet it. Every day a new one. What Benefit Does Quotimal.com Offer? It is meant only to make you smile. But a little more too. Watch this fantastic Ted Talk by Jane McGonigal author of Reality Is Broken (https://www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_the_game_that_can_give_you_10_extra_years_of_life?language=en[^]) and notice that she mentions the life benefits of such a small thing.
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As I became a software developer I became more of an entrepreneur. I love the idea of engineering a company into existence just as I do software. I really like great books about this too. I am currently reading Guy Kawasaki's fantastic book, The Art of the Start 2.0[^]. I wonder if you find this to be true in your life also. I am very interested in taking an idea as simple as my new web site: X-- link removed by request --X and turning it into something a lot of people are interested in. Do you ever dream of building something bigger than software? What is Quotimal? It is a daily great or funny quote along with an cute animal picture. I'm serious. Check it out and re-post it, tweet it. Every day a new one. What Benefit Does Quotimal.com Offer? It is meant only to make you smile. But a little more too. Watch this fantastic Ted Talk by Jane McGonigal author of Reality Is Broken (https://www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_the_game_that_can_give_you_10_extra_years_of_life?language=en[^]) and notice that she mentions the life benefits of such a small thing.
I think using html5 canvas and javascript just to show an image is a bit over the top when you could just style your img tag using css and all browsers can access your site. Second of all "You're browser does not support HTML5." :)
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Keep me updated. Not here in the lounge, I might miss that. Send me an email or something when your site is ready (or at least more ready). Looking forward to it. I'm probably running ahead of things, but a Quotimal editor would be cool too. Make your own Quotimal, just like Memes :D
Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
Thanks again. That's really nice. Also you are thinking of some functionality that I was hoping to do myself. Great stuff. I'll keep you updated.
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I think using html5 canvas and javascript just to show an image is a bit over the top when you could just style your img tag using css and all browsers can access your site. Second of all "You're browser does not support HTML5." :)
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
"You're browser does not support HTML5."
Who said I wanted all browsers to be able to access my site? :D I'm trying to keep the people on Windows XP out!! :) Thanks for the input.
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Request you to please remove link which can be considered adv. I totally understand that you didn't post that intentionally but some members have objection[^] to this post. I'm not going to report anything.
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Link removed. Tell a friend, bring a buddy.
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F-ES Sitecore wrote:
"You're browser does not support HTML5."
Who said I wanted all browsers to be able to access my site? :D I'm trying to keep the people on Windows XP out!! :) Thanks for the input.
*your ;P :laugh:
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These seems appropriate response from you. I removed the link. Thanks for your input.
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*your ;P :laugh:
Oh wow! I didn't even notice that mis-spelling. That is really lame of me. :thumbsdown:
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These seems appropriate response from you. I removed the link. Thanks for your input.
The rules are, apparently, that you can put a link to it in your sig, but not promote it in any way.
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Link removed. Tell a friend, bring a buddy.
Thank you.
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I think you deduction is very wrong, not only are most developers not entrepreneurs but they are pathetic at running a business. I hold myself up as an example, I have run 2 failed software companies in my time before I admitted I was hopeless as a businessman. Now I won't even take a management role! I admire the few who can transition from a developer to running a business, I would have liked to work for a few of them. Some of us are just not leaders and we tend to be much happier when we accept and work within our limitations. A bloody good developer, not a businessman!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Well, an entrepreneur developer don't have to necessarily be the business person. This is why having good partners goes a long way to the success. Entrepreneur means you like to create a service that generate revenue, instead of selling your time. Thinking that the developer needs to be a business person for entrepreneurship is fallacy and dangerous if he does not like it.
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As I became a software developer I became more of an entrepreneur. I love the idea of engineering a company into existence just as I do software. I really like great books about this too. I am currently reading Guy Kawasaki's fantastic book, The Art of the Start 2.0[^]. I wonder if you find this to be true in your life also. I am very interested in taking an idea as simple as my new web site: X-- link removed by request --X and turning it into something a lot of people are interested in. Do you ever dream of building something bigger than software? What is Quotimal? It is a daily great or funny quote along with an cute animal picture. I'm serious. Check it out and re-post it, tweet it. Every day a new one. What Benefit Does Quotimal.com Offer? It is meant only to make you smile. But a little more too. Watch this fantastic Ted Talk by Jane McGonigal author of Reality Is Broken (https://www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_the_game_that_can_give_you_10_extra_years_of_life?language=en[^]) and notice that she mentions the life benefits of such a small thing.
I will first respond to the fallacy of people thinking that a developer wanting to be entrepreneur needs to be a business man. This is false. This skill can be into one of your partners. A developer does not have to be a business man if he does not like it. Entrepreneur only means that you prefer creating a service that generate revenue instead of selling your time. Paycheck versus recurrent income and equities. It is a fallacy to mix up "being a business man" with "being an entrepreneur", these are two different things, you can be one without the other. It is not the nature developers to be entrepreneur, but the nature of their skills. Programming is one of the only job where you can create a service by investing nothing but your brain.
