Looks like it was suicide:
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11491587/Airbus-A320-crashes-in-French-Alps-with-148-people-on-board-live.html[^] "We heard the captain ask the co-pilot to take control, then we hear the noise of a seat that goes back and a door open, we can assume he went to relieve himself. The co-pilot was alone. It is at this moment that the co-pilot manipulates the buttons of flight monitoring system to action the descent of the plane. The action of this altitude can only be deliberate. We hear the captain then speaks via an interphone to speak to the co-pilot, no response of co-pilot, he taps on door, no response from the co-pilot, all we can hear is the sound of breathing, until impact suggesting the co-pilot was alive until impact. Air traffic control tried to get through via 7700 but couldn't get through. Air traffic control even tried to contact other planes to try and contact the plane, but no response. Alarms sounded to signal to crew the proximity of the ground, then we hear banging of someone trying to break down the door The pull up alarms to pull the plane up went off. Just before the final impact one can heard what appears to be the first impact of the plane on a mountain top. There was no message of distress type or mayday recevied by air traffic control, and no response to all the air traffic controllers. The interpretation is 48 hours after the crash, I take precautions, but for us investigating...the most plausible and realistic is that the co-pilot by a deliberate decision refused to open the cabin door to the captain and actioned the button ordering the loss of altitude. " Sad.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11491587/Airbus-A320-crashes-in-French-Alps-with-148-people-on-board-live.html[^] "We heard the captain ask the co-pilot to take control, then we hear the noise of a seat that goes back and a door open, we can assume he went to relieve himself. The co-pilot was alone. It is at this moment that the co-pilot manipulates the buttons of flight monitoring system to action the descent of the plane. The action of this altitude can only be deliberate. We hear the captain then speaks via an interphone to speak to the co-pilot, no response of co-pilot, he taps on door, no response from the co-pilot, all we can hear is the sound of breathing, until impact suggesting the co-pilot was alive until impact. Air traffic control tried to get through via 7700 but couldn't get through. Air traffic control even tried to contact other planes to try and contact the plane, but no response. Alarms sounded to signal to crew the proximity of the ground, then we hear banging of someone trying to break down the door The pull up alarms to pull the plane up went off. Just before the final impact one can heard what appears to be the first impact of the plane on a mountain top. There was no message of distress type or mayday recevied by air traffic control, and no response to all the air traffic controllers. The interpretation is 48 hours after the crash, I take precautions, but for us investigating...the most plausible and realistic is that the co-pilot by a deliberate decision refused to open the cabin door to the captain and actioned the button ordering the loss of altitude. " Sad.
What right had he to take along with him 149 innocent others? Perhaps they should have some kind of (psychometric?) tests for pilots to assess their mental state before each flight. As a passenger, I'll have no awareness of the pilot's state of mind when I board the aircraft.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11491587/Airbus-A320-crashes-in-French-Alps-with-148-people-on-board-live.html[^] "We heard the captain ask the co-pilot to take control, then we hear the noise of a seat that goes back and a door open, we can assume he went to relieve himself. The co-pilot was alone. It is at this moment that the co-pilot manipulates the buttons of flight monitoring system to action the descent of the plane. The action of this altitude can only be deliberate. We hear the captain then speaks via an interphone to speak to the co-pilot, no response of co-pilot, he taps on door, no response from the co-pilot, all we can hear is the sound of breathing, until impact suggesting the co-pilot was alive until impact. Air traffic control tried to get through via 7700 but couldn't get through. Air traffic control even tried to contact other planes to try and contact the plane, but no response. Alarms sounded to signal to crew the proximity of the ground, then we hear banging of someone trying to break down the door The pull up alarms to pull the plane up went off. Just before the final impact one can heard what appears to be the first impact of the plane on a mountain top. There was no message of distress type or mayday recevied by air traffic control, and no response to all the air traffic controllers. The interpretation is 48 hours after the crash, I take precautions, but for us investigating...the most plausible and realistic is that the co-pilot by a deliberate decision refused to open the cabin door to the captain and actioned the button ordering the loss of altitude. " Sad.
Findings are preliminary, although the evidence is pointing to suicide. I don't know why you are in such a hurry to tell us bad news that we can find out on our own. Every news channel in the world is broadcasting this.
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What right had he to take along with him 149 innocent others? Perhaps they should have some kind of (psychometric?) tests for pilots to assess their mental state before each flight. As a passenger, I'll have no awareness of the pilot's state of mind when I board the aircraft.
Avijnata wrote:
tests for pilots to assess their mental state before each flight.
Great, that would add another two hours waiting about before each flight. Pilots do have regular medical tests for both physical and mental health, but doing it before each flight would be totally impractical.
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Findings are preliminary, although the evidence is pointing to suicide. I don't know why you are in such a hurry to tell us bad news that we can find out on our own. Every news channel in the world is broadcasting this.
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I don't know why you are in such a hurry to tell us bad news that we can find out on our own.
Yep ++ :thumbsup:
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Avijnata wrote:
tests for pilots to assess their mental state before each flight.
Great, that would add another two hours waiting about before each flight. Pilots do have regular medical tests for both physical and mental health, but doing it before each flight would be totally impractical.
That was just one (impractical) solution :-( There may be other ways, wouldn't they?
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That was just one (impractical) solution :-( There may be other ways, wouldn't they?
They'll probably make it mandatory to have 2 people in the cockpit at all times. At the moment it's not, though some airlines do practice this.
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Findings are preliminary, although the evidence is pointing to suicide. I don't know why you are in such a hurry to tell us bad news that we can find out on our own. Every news channel in the world is broadcasting this.
You could make the same statement for about 80% of the posts in the lounge.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11491587/Airbus-A320-crashes-in-French-Alps-with-148-people-on-board-live.html[^] "We heard the captain ask the co-pilot to take control, then we hear the noise of a seat that goes back and a door open, we can assume he went to relieve himself. The co-pilot was alone. It is at this moment that the co-pilot manipulates the buttons of flight monitoring system to action the descent of the plane. The action of this altitude can only be deliberate. We hear the captain then speaks via an interphone to speak to the co-pilot, no response of co-pilot, he taps on door, no response from the co-pilot, all we can hear is the sound of breathing, until impact suggesting the co-pilot was alive until impact. Air traffic control tried to get through via 7700 but couldn't get through. Air traffic control even tried to contact other planes to try and contact the plane, but no response. Alarms sounded to signal to crew the proximity of the ground, then we hear banging of someone trying to break down the door The pull up alarms to pull the plane up went off. Just before the final impact one can heard what appears to be the first impact of the plane on a mountain top. There was no message of distress type or mayday recevied by air traffic control, and no response to all the air traffic controllers. The interpretation is 48 hours after the crash, I take precautions, but for us investigating...the most plausible and realistic is that the co-pilot by a deliberate decision refused to open the cabin door to the captain and actioned the button ordering the loss of altitude. " Sad.
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They'll probably make it mandatory to have 2 people in the cockpit at all times. At the moment it's not, though some airlines do practice this.
I was just reading that some airlines keep crowbars or axes outside the cockpit to get in during an emergency. Kind of seems to negate the locking doors to keep terrorists out in that case. I think - unfortunately - that flight is always going to be a (low) risk activity. If you don't accept the risks then don't fly (I'm guessing that most people don't really consider the risks).
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Suicide is killing yourself. What he did was not suicide. It was a mass murder in which he also died.
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Isn't that terrorism?
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Isn't that terrorism?
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 When you are dead you don't know it, it's only difficult for others. It's the same when you're stupid.
Not necessarily. I've no idea why he did this. Terrorism is doing something (or threatening to do something) with the aim of making people afraid. He has made lots of people afraid, but unless it turns out he has done it as part of some larger organisation then I don't see much point in being afraid of him anymore.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Isn't that terrorism?
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 When you are dead you don't know it, it's only difficult for others. It's the same when you're stupid.
Only if you're muslim! :doh:
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Suicide is killing yourself. What he did was not suicide. It was a mass murder in which he also died.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
It was. Such a shocking thing to do. Why oh why would someone, a European, without the insanity caused by Islam, want to do this.
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I was just reading that some airlines keep crowbars or axes outside the cockpit to get in during an emergency. Kind of seems to negate the locking doors to keep terrorists out in that case. I think - unfortunately - that flight is always going to be a (low) risk activity. If you don't accept the risks then don't fly (I'm guessing that most people don't really consider the risks).
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
Get three burly guys and charge the door. Its got to give, surely.
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Only if you're muslim! :doh:
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the timeWe English like to think back to the times when our terrorists were Irish with a sort of wistful nostalgia. Back when the pubs blew up in Birmingham however people were throwing nooses over anything that would hold them and looking for anyone with an Irish accent to string up.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Get three burly guys and charge the door. Its got to give, surely.
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Suicide is killing yourself. What he did was not suicide. It was a mass murder in which he also died.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
Yup. I'd class it in with the school shootings/suicides.
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Isn't that terrorism?
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 When you are dead you don't know it, it's only difficult for others. It's the same when you're stupid.
Nope.
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But then how do you keep three burly terrorists out? I think a solution for one scenario precludes the other.
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
It does, but if crow bars and axes can get in, then 340 kgs of meat doing 20 mph is too.
