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  • M Munchies_Matt

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11491587/Airbus-A320-crashes-in-French-Alps-with-148-people-on-board-live.html[^] "We heard the captain ask the co-pilot to take control, then we hear the noise of a seat that goes back and a door open, we can assume he went to relieve himself. The co-pilot was alone. It is at this moment that the co-pilot manipulates the buttons of flight monitoring system to action the descent of the plane. The action of this altitude can only be deliberate. We hear the captain then speaks via an interphone to speak to the co-pilot, no response of co-pilot, he taps on door, no response from the co-pilot, all we can hear is the sound of breathing, until impact suggesting the co-pilot was alive until impact. Air traffic control tried to get through via 7700 but couldn't get through. Air traffic control even tried to contact other planes to try and contact the plane, but no response. Alarms sounded to signal to crew the proximity of the ground, then we hear banging of someone trying to break down the door The pull up alarms to pull the plane up went off. Just before the final impact one can heard what appears to be the first impact of the plane on a mountain top. There was no message of distress type or mayday recevied by air traffic control, and no response to all the air traffic controllers. The interpretation is 48 hours after the crash, I take precautions, but for us investigating...the most plausible and realistic is that the co-pilot by a deliberate decision refused to open the cabin door to the captain and actioned the button ordering the loss of altitude. " Sad.

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    chriselst
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    Suicide is killing yourself. What he did was not suicide. It was a mass murder in which he also died.

    Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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    • W Wastedtalent

      They'll probably make it mandatory to have 2 people in the cockpit at all times. At the moment it's not, though some airlines do practice this.

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      Lost User
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      I was just reading that some airlines keep crowbars or axes outside the cockpit to get in during an emergency. Kind of seems to negate the locking doors to keep terrorists out in that case. I think - unfortunately - that flight is always going to be a (low) risk activity. If you don't accept the risks then don't fly (I'm guessing that most people don't really consider the risks).

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        Suicide is killing yourself. What he did was not suicide. It was a mass murder in which he also died.

        Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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        Mike Hankey
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        Isn't that terrorism?

        New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 When you are dead you don't know it, it's only difficult for others. It's the same when you're stupid.

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        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

          Isn't that terrorism?

          New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 When you are dead you don't know it, it's only difficult for others. It's the same when you're stupid.

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          chriselst
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          Not necessarily. I've no idea why he did this. Terrorism is doing something (or threatening to do something) with the aim of making people afraid. He has made lots of people afraid, but unless it turns out he has done it as part of some larger organisation then I don't see much point in being afraid of him anymore.

          Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

            Isn't that terrorism?

            New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 When you are dead you don't know it, it's only difficult for others. It's the same when you're stupid.

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            Johnny J
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            Only if you're muslim! :doh:

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            • C chriselst

              Suicide is killing yourself. What he did was not suicide. It was a mass murder in which he also died.

              Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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              Munchies_Matt
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              It was. Such a shocking thing to do. Why oh why would someone, a European, without the insanity caused by Islam, want to do this.

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                I was just reading that some airlines keep crowbars or axes outside the cockpit to get in during an emergency. Kind of seems to negate the locking doors to keep terrorists out in that case. I think - unfortunately - that flight is always going to be a (low) risk activity. If you don't accept the risks then don't fly (I'm guessing that most people don't really consider the risks).

                How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                Munchies_Matt
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                Get three burly guys and charge the door. Its got to give, surely.

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                  Only if you're muslim! :doh:

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                  We English like to think back to the times when our terrorists were Irish with a sort of wistful nostalgia. Back when the pubs blew up in Birmingham however people were throwing nooses over anything that would hold them and looking for anyone with an Irish accent to string up.

                  Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                    Get three burly guys and charge the door. Its got to give, surely.

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                    But then how do you keep three burly terrorists out? I think a solution for one scenario precludes the other.

                    How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                    • C chriselst

                      Suicide is killing yourself. What he did was not suicide. It was a mass murder in which he also died.

                      Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                      Mark_Wallace
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                      Yup. I'd class it in with the school shootings/suicides.

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                      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                        Isn't that terrorism?

                        New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 When you are dead you don't know it, it's only difficult for others. It's the same when you're stupid.

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                        Mark_Wallace
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                        Nope.

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                        • L Lost User

                          But then how do you keep three burly terrorists out? I think a solution for one scenario precludes the other.

                          How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                          Munchies_Matt
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                          It does, but if crow bars and axes can get in, then 340 kgs of meat doing 20 mph is too.

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                            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11491587/Airbus-A320-crashes-in-French-Alps-with-148-people-on-board-live.html[^] "We heard the captain ask the co-pilot to take control, then we hear the noise of a seat that goes back and a door open, we can assume he went to relieve himself. The co-pilot was alone. It is at this moment that the co-pilot manipulates the buttons of flight monitoring system to action the descent of the plane. The action of this altitude can only be deliberate. We hear the captain then speaks via an interphone to speak to the co-pilot, no response of co-pilot, he taps on door, no response from the co-pilot, all we can hear is the sound of breathing, until impact suggesting the co-pilot was alive until impact. Air traffic control tried to get through via 7700 but couldn't get through. Air traffic control even tried to contact other planes to try and contact the plane, but no response. Alarms sounded to signal to crew the proximity of the ground, then we hear banging of someone trying to break down the door The pull up alarms to pull the plane up went off. Just before the final impact one can heard what appears to be the first impact of the plane on a mountain top. There was no message of distress type or mayday recevied by air traffic control, and no response to all the air traffic controllers. The interpretation is 48 hours after the crash, I take precautions, but for us investigating...the most plausible and realistic is that the co-pilot by a deliberate decision refused to open the cabin door to the captain and actioned the button ordering the loss of altitude. " Sad.

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                            zephaneas
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                            Why, if you're unhappy with life and want to die, do people feel the need to kill everyone around them at the same time.

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                              Why, if you're unhappy with life and want to die, do people feel the need to kill everyone around them at the same time.

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                              Munchies_Matt
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                              Andreas Lubitz was the pilots name. Isnt that first name Greek....

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                              • M Munchies_Matt

                                Andreas Lubitz was the pilots name. Isnt that first name Greek....

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                                HobbyProggy
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                                Andreas is a very common name for a german ;)

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                                  Andreas is a very common name for a german ;)

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                                  Munchies_Matt
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                                  He looks a bit Greek to me.... :suss:

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                                  • M Munchies_Matt

                                    Andreas Lubitz was the pilots name. Isnt that first name Greek....

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                                    OriginalGriff
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                                    And the second name kinda precludes Islamic Terrorists as well...

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                                    • S Slacker007

                                      Findings are preliminary, although the evidence is pointing to suicide. I don't know why you are in such a hurry to tell us bad news that we can find out on our own. Every news channel in the world is broadcasting this.

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                                      Richard Andrew x64
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                                      Slacker007 wrote:

                                      why you are in such a hurry to tell us bad news

                                      Because he wants us to know "the jews" did it.

                                      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                                      • M Munchies_Matt

                                        Get three burly guys and charge the door. Its got to give, surely.

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                                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                        give, surely

                                        What's she got to do with it and just what are you giving her? ;P

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                                        • M Munchies_Matt

                                          It does, but if crow bars and axes can get in, then 340 kgs of meat doing 20 mph is too.

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                                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                          20 mph

                                          You might get 5mph.

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