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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    What? Again? :omg:

    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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    Simon_Whale
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    I thought it was called optimism :laugh:

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      What? Again? :omg:

      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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      Sascha Lefevre
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      Every year is the year of the Linux Desktop. I find your lack of faith disturbing..

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        Every year is the year of the Linux Desktop. I find your lack of faith disturbing..

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        Sascha Lefévre wrote:

        I find your lack of faith disturbing..

        invisible pink unicorns?

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          I am informed that this is the year of the Linux Desktop.

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          Somehow I saw it coming... :laugh:

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            Sascha Lefévre wrote:

            I find your lack of faith disturbing..

            invisible pink unicorns?

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            Sascha Lefevre
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            HobbyProggy wrote:

            invisible pink unicorns?

            That's the desktop-theme of the latest Linux distro

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            • G Gittum

              And what happens in future? Will there be any OS to compete with Windows and then change the scenario!!

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              Lost User
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              People will keep betting on the market-leader. Meaning the market-leader will stay exactly that, regardless of quality.

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                Just wanted to know what ppl think abt it! :doh:

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                Lost User
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                We don't believe it.

                Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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                • G Gittum

                  And what happens in future? Will there be any OS to compete with Windows and then change the scenario!!

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                  KarstenK
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                  You are talking about Personal Computers, but the time are changing. Younger people have mostly a smartphone or tablet and on these devices is Android or iOS most of the times. Do you know Kodak?

                  Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                    You are talking about Personal Computers, but the time are changing. Younger people have mostly a smartphone or tablet and on these devices is Android or iOS most of the times. Do you know Kodak?

                    Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                    KarstenK wrote:

                    Do you know Kodak?

                    Watzdat?

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                    • L Lost User

                      People will keep betting on the market-leader. Meaning the market-leader will stay exactly that, regardless of quality.

                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                      Nicholas Marty
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                      It's not only betting on the market-leader. You stay market-leader by providing better quality than your competitors. And quality in regards to operating systems includes more than just system stability. You have to consider the number of available software (and it's quality), backwards compatibility and so on as well. You can write a completely bug-free OS if you want and you won't sell a copy of it unless your customers are actually able to run the software they need on it. Of course software companies tend to write for operating system of the market-leader first, which in turn makes it kinda difficult for other OS publishers.

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                        This is the wrong place for such questions. We don't have any psychics or crystal balls here. Only Crystal Reports sometimes.

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                        CDP1802 wrote:

                        Only Crystal Reports sometimes.

                        Yeah, well, that's not psychic - that's sorcery or black magic! Nobody ever knows if it works - and how! And nobody wants to touch it with a 10 foot pole... :doh:

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                        • G Gittum

                          And what happens in future? Will there be any OS to compete with Windows and then change the scenario!!

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                          GuyThiebaut
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                          Member 9441074 wrote:

                          Microsoft's principal products running on nearly 90 percent of the world's computers

                          Citation required... I would say from anecdotal evidence that the percentage is smaller... apparently...

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                            HobbyProggy wrote:

                            invisible pink unicorns?

                            That's the desktop-theme of the latest Linux distro

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                            Brady Kelly
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                            The twitter handle for the EF team at MS is, yes, @efmagicunicorns. :laugh:

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                            • K KarstenK

                              You are talking about Personal Computers, but the time are changing. Younger people have mostly a smartphone or tablet and on these devices is Android or iOS most of the times. Do you know Kodak?

                              Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                              Not really a good comparison; there was an alternative for the Kodak-product. A laptop or phone is no replacement for a personal computer.

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                                Member 9441074 wrote:

                                Microsoft's principal products running on nearly 90 percent of the world's computers

                                Citation required... I would say from anecdotal evidence that the percentage is smaller... apparently...

                                “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                Gittum
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                                http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-at-40-read-bill-gates-anniversary-email-to-employees/[^] Written there!

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                                  It's not only betting on the market-leader. You stay market-leader by providing better quality than your competitors. And quality in regards to operating systems includes more than just system stability. You have to consider the number of available software (and it's quality), backwards compatibility and so on as well. You can write a completely bug-free OS if you want and you won't sell a copy of it unless your customers are actually able to run the software they need on it. Of course software companies tend to write for operating system of the market-leader first, which in turn makes it kinda difficult for other OS publishers.

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                                  Nicholas Marty wrote:

                                  You have to consider the number of available software (and it's quality), backwards compatibility and so on as well.

                                  That is way they will stay market-leader. If said manager has to look for application-software, he'll end up with Microsoft again. That means that most documentation and tutorials are aimed at, you guessed it, Microsoft products. It is one of the advantages of having a monopoly.

                                  Nicholas Marty wrote:

                                  You can write a completely bug-free OS

                                  No, that is impossible. No software-vendor will have NASA's resources, and even they make mistakes that cost lives. So, unless you can beat NASA on a lower budget, you won't have bug-free software.

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                                  • K KarstenK

                                    You are talking about Personal Computers, but the time are changing. Younger people have mostly a smartphone or tablet and on these devices is Android or iOS most of the times. Do you know Kodak?

                                    Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                                    Gittum
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                                    You are right obviously. Microsoft is also trying in the same field, for example Microsoft Surface is in a good position now!

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                                    • G Gittum

                                      Just wanted to know what ppl think abt it! :doh:

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                                      Lost User
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                                      Since Windows 8 I prefer not to think about Mickeysoft.

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                                        And what happens in future? Will there be any OS to compete with Windows and then change the scenario!!

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                                        Maximilien
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                                        http://xkcd.com/1508/[^] :rolleyes:

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                                          Nicholas Marty wrote:

                                          You have to consider the number of available software (and it's quality), backwards compatibility and so on as well.

                                          That is way they will stay market-leader. If said manager has to look for application-software, he'll end up with Microsoft again. That means that most documentation and tutorials are aimed at, you guessed it, Microsoft products. It is one of the advantages of having a monopoly.

                                          Nicholas Marty wrote:

                                          You can write a completely bug-free OS

                                          No, that is impossible. No software-vendor will have NASA's resources, and even they make mistakes that cost lives. So, unless you can beat NASA on a lower budget, you won't have bug-free software.

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                                          Nicholas Marty
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                                          Yeah, my criticism was more aimed at the "regardless of quality" bit of your first response. I'm just saying quality involves a lot of things (and is probably also pretty subjective). When I have to consider which OS I want, I factor many things in. All of which contribute to the "quality": - Does it run on my hardware? (And is there driver support from the hardware vendors for this OS?) - Is it reasonably stable? (I can live with an occasional software or system crash, as long as it doesn't occur too often) - Can it run programs X, Y and Z that I already use and like to continue use? - Is it providing a similiar User Interface that I'm already used to, so I will feel at home soon enough? - Are there known and open security flaws, and if there are, will they be fixed? and so on. I want the OS that suits my needs best (or in other words "has in my opinion the highest quality"). You could conclude, that being the market-leader is a part of their quality as well ;)

                                          Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                          No, that is impossible.

                                          In a hypotetical sense of course :laugh: And I think a completely bug-free OS IS possible. It just might not do anything (useful) at all ;)

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