Illegal to disclose .Net benchmarks?!!?
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Illegal to disclose .Net benchmarks?!!? From the EULA when installing latest fix: "You may not disclose the results of any benchmark test of the .NET Framework component of the OS Components to any third party without Microsofts prior written approval." :suss: Interesting. I don't read EULA's often.
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Illegal to disclose .Net benchmarks?!!? From the EULA when installing latest fix: "You may not disclose the results of any benchmark test of the .NET Framework component of the OS Components to any third party without Microsofts prior written approval." :suss: Interesting. I don't read EULA's often.
This has been quoted often, but there are products on the market that do just that, which I read to mean that this part of the EULA is not enforceable. Sort of like going into a cleaners and seeing a sign stating that the cleaner is not responsible for items that are destroyed. Just because someone states it doesn't necessarily make it enforceable. Note that this is just my opinion. I'm not a lawyer. I just play one on CodeProject. Cheers, Tom Archer, Inside C# Mainstream is just a word for the way things always have been -- just a middle-of-the-road, tow-the-line thing; a front for the Man serving up the same warmed-over slop he did yesterday and expecting you to say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
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This has been quoted often, but there are products on the market that do just that, which I read to mean that this part of the EULA is not enforceable. Sort of like going into a cleaners and seeing a sign stating that the cleaner is not responsible for items that are destroyed. Just because someone states it doesn't necessarily make it enforceable. Note that this is just my opinion. I'm not a lawyer. I just play one on CodeProject. Cheers, Tom Archer, Inside C# Mainstream is just a word for the way things always have been -- just a middle-of-the-road, tow-the-line thing; a front for the Man serving up the same warmed-over slop he did yesterday and expecting you to say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
MS seems not too happy to enforce the EULA either, at least this is what they claim. http://www.infoworld.com/article/02/08/23/020826opgripe_1.html[^] I spoke to Microsoft officials involved in the .Net benchmarking efforts and it's clear they are actually quite frustrated by the situation. They seem sincere in believing that credible benchmarks of current implementations would tell a good story for them. That may well be true (Microsoft has some obvious advantages as the one-stop supplier of all the .Net components), and I told them that I think Microsoft is shooting itself in the foot by bringing the censorship clauses of the database server world into the mainstream of Web services. Their response is that they don't really like the benchmark nondisclosure clause but they had to apply it to Windows 2000 to protect when the other application server vendors adopted censorship clauses. In other words, they need to "prevent disreputable competitors from fabricating bogus tests" as one Microsoft official put it last year.
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This has been quoted often, but there are products on the market that do just that, which I read to mean that this part of the EULA is not enforceable. Sort of like going into a cleaners and seeing a sign stating that the cleaner is not responsible for items that are destroyed. Just because someone states it doesn't necessarily make it enforceable. Note that this is just my opinion. I'm not a lawyer. I just play one on CodeProject. Cheers, Tom Archer, Inside C# Mainstream is just a word for the way things always have been -- just a middle-of-the-road, tow-the-line thing; a front for the Man serving up the same warmed-over slop he did yesterday and expecting you to say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
Hey Mr. Archer, long time no see (though you really had gone inside C#) :-D If I may ask, and hoping I haven't missed some news that makes this question a horrible one, how is the wife doing?
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.
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Hey Mr. Archer, long time no see (though you really had gone inside C#) :-D If I may ask, and hoping I haven't missed some news that makes this question a horrible one, how is the wife doing?
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.
Yeah. Tom hasn't been around in a while.. nice to see he's back. Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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Hey Mr. Archer, long time no see (though you really had gone inside C#) :-D If I may ask, and hoping I haven't missed some news that makes this question a horrible one, how is the wife doing?
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.
Paul Watson wrote: Hey Mr. Archer, long time no see (though you really had gone inside C#) :laugh: :laugh: Paul Watson wrote: If I may ask, and hoping I haven't missed some news that makes this question a horrible one, how is the wife doing? She continues to do extremely well clinically (no temp, feels good, etc.). We saw her liver doc yesterday (we see him every two months). Her "numbers" (blood test results) continue to hold steady (which is good). However, one point of concern for the liver team is that she has some ambiguous numbers that are confusing them. Therefore, they've said that she's finally healthy enough to do a liver biopsy. I guess you could say it's D-Day at this point as this will enable the team to determine once and for all just how much damage her liver has sustained and will give them a clearer picture of what procedures they need to prescribe at this point. Needless to say, we're very anxious about all this, but at least this way we'll have a much firmer understanding of just where she is health-wise. Cheers, Tom Archer, Inside C# Mainstream is just a word for the way things always have been -- just a middle-of-the-road, tow-the-line thing; a front for the Man serving up the same warmed-over slop he did yesterday and expecting you to say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
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Yeah. Tom hasn't been around in a while.. nice to see he's back. Regards, Brian Dela :-)
Thanks mate. I've been super busy as of late working on a .NET contract and the book with Nish. Hopefully, things have slowed down a bit in my life so that I can make more appearances now and again :) Cheers, Tom Archer, Inside C# Mainstream is just a word for the way things always have been -- just a middle-of-the-road, tow-the-line thing; a front for the Man serving up the same warmed-over slop he did yesterday and expecting you to say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
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Hey Mr. Archer, long time no see (though you really had gone inside C#) :-D If I may ask, and hoping I haven't missed some news that makes this question a horrible one, how is the wife doing?
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.
Paul Watson wrote: (though you really had gone inside C#) He's not likely to do that. Not unless they install a pool table in there. :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Paul Watson wrote: Hey Mr. Archer, long time no see (though you really had gone inside C#) :laugh: :laugh: Paul Watson wrote: If I may ask, and hoping I haven't missed some news that makes this question a horrible one, how is the wife doing? She continues to do extremely well clinically (no temp, feels good, etc.). We saw her liver doc yesterday (we see him every two months). Her "numbers" (blood test results) continue to hold steady (which is good). However, one point of concern for the liver team is that she has some ambiguous numbers that are confusing them. Therefore, they've said that she's finally healthy enough to do a liver biopsy. I guess you could say it's D-Day at this point as this will enable the team to determine once and for all just how much damage her liver has sustained and will give them a clearer picture of what procedures they need to prescribe at this point. Needless to say, we're very anxious about all this, but at least this way we'll have a much firmer understanding of just where she is health-wise. Cheers, Tom Archer, Inside C# Mainstream is just a word for the way things always have been -- just a middle-of-the-road, tow-the-line thing; a front for the Man serving up the same warmed-over slop he did yesterday and expecting you to say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
That's the clinical answer, folks. The word from the street is that these days she's strong enough to keep Tom in line and not take any nonsense from him again. And if you know Tom, you'll understand that this takes a lot of strength... Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Thanks mate. I've been super busy as of late working on a .NET contract and the book with Nish. Hopefully, things have slowed down a bit in my life so that I can make more appearances now and again :) Cheers, Tom Archer, Inside C# Mainstream is just a word for the way things always have been -- just a middle-of-the-road, tow-the-line thing; a front for the Man serving up the same warmed-over slop he did yesterday and expecting you to say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
Hopefully so. I hope everything works out for you and your wife. Best of luck with everything :rose: Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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Paul Watson wrote: (though you really had gone inside C#) He's not likely to do that. Not unless they install a pool table in there. :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
Hey! Quit bringing up pool, will ya?! I'm hopin' to hustle Roger when we finally hook up! You keep talking about pool and guy will never play me :) Cheers, Tom Archer, Inside C# Mainstream is just a word for the way things always have been -- just a middle-of-the-road, tow-the-line thing; a front for the Man serving up the same warmed-over slop he did yesterday and expecting you to say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
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Paul Watson wrote: Hey Mr. Archer, long time no see (though you really had gone inside C#) :laugh: :laugh: Paul Watson wrote: If I may ask, and hoping I haven't missed some news that makes this question a horrible one, how is the wife doing? She continues to do extremely well clinically (no temp, feels good, etc.). We saw her liver doc yesterday (we see him every two months). Her "numbers" (blood test results) continue to hold steady (which is good). However, one point of concern for the liver team is that she has some ambiguous numbers that are confusing them. Therefore, they've said that she's finally healthy enough to do a liver biopsy. I guess you could say it's D-Day at this point as this will enable the team to determine once and for all just how much damage her liver has sustained and will give them a clearer picture of what procedures they need to prescribe at this point. Needless to say, we're very anxious about all this, but at least this way we'll have a much firmer understanding of just where she is health-wise. Cheers, Tom Archer, Inside C# Mainstream is just a word for the way things always have been -- just a middle-of-the-road, tow-the-line thing; a front for the Man serving up the same warmed-over slop he did yesterday and expecting you to say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
Tom Archer wrote: D-Day at this point as this will enable the team to determine once and for all just how much damage her liver has sustained and will give them a clearer picture of what procedures they need to prescribe at this point. The best of the luck for your wife's liver biopsy and that everything runs ok :rose: ps: I'm now using your book on my job as a reference since I finnaly working on another firm , the TCL has gone and I'm currently programming with ASP.NET and C# , and yes, your book has been of great help :-) Cheers,Joao Vaz And if your dream is to care for your family, to put food on the table, to provide them with an education and a good home, then maybe suffering through an endless, pointless, boring job will seem to have purpose. And you will realize how even a rock can change the world, simply by remaining obstinately stationary.-Shog9 Remember just because a good thing comes to an end, doesn't mean that the next one can't be better.-Chris Meech
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Tom Archer wrote: D-Day at this point as this will enable the team to determine once and for all just how much damage her liver has sustained and will give them a clearer picture of what procedures they need to prescribe at this point. The best of the luck for your wife's liver biopsy and that everything runs ok :rose: ps: I'm now using your book on my job as a reference since I finnaly working on another firm , the TCL has gone and I'm currently programming with ASP.NET and C# , and yes, your book has been of great help :-) Cheers,Joao Vaz And if your dream is to care for your family, to put food on the table, to provide them with an education and a good home, then maybe suffering through an endless, pointless, boring job will seem to have purpose. And you will realize how even a rock can change the world, simply by remaining obstinately stationary.-Shog9 Remember just because a good thing comes to an end, doesn't mean that the next one can't be better.-Chris Meech
Joao Vaz wrote: the TCL has gone and I'm currently programming with ASP.NET and C# Congrats Joao!! I know you're having much more fun now. Joao Vaz wrote: your book has been of great help Good to hear! Cheers, Tom Archer, Inside C# Mainstream is just a word for the way things always have been -- just a middle-of-the-road, tow-the-line thing; a front for the Man serving up the same warmed-over slop he did yesterday and expecting you to say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
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Joao Vaz wrote: the TCL has gone and I'm currently programming with ASP.NET and C# Congrats Joao!! I know you're having much more fun now. Joao Vaz wrote: your book has been of great help Good to hear! Cheers, Tom Archer, Inside C# Mainstream is just a word for the way things always have been -- just a middle-of-the-road, tow-the-line thing; a front for the Man serving up the same warmed-over slop he did yesterday and expecting you to say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
Tom Archer wrote: I know you're having much more fun now. No doubts about it :cool: Cheers,Joao Vaz And if your dream is to care for your family, to put food on the table, to provide them with an education and a good home, then maybe suffering through an endless, pointless, boring job will seem to have purpose. And you will realize how even a rock can change the world, simply by remaining obstinately stationary.-Shog9 Remember just because a good thing comes to an end, doesn't mean that the next one can't be better.-Chris Meech
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Hopefully so. I hope everything works out for you and your wife. Best of luck with everything :rose: Regards, Brian Dela :-)
Brian Delahunty wrote: I hope everything works out for you and our wife That reminds me of the trouble Nish had, with his laptop keypad. Some of the keys were not working and he got the whole keypad replaced. I think its time, you check up yours too :) HTH ;) Smitha The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. --Eleanor Roosevelt
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Brian Delahunty wrote: I hope everything works out for you and our wife That reminds me of the trouble Nish had, with his laptop keypad. Some of the keys were not working and he got the whole keypad replaced. I think its time, you check up yours too :) HTH ;) Smitha The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. --Eleanor Roosevelt
:laugh: I didn't even notice that until you said something Smitha!
any idiot can write haiku you just stop at seventeenth syl -ThinkGeek Fortunes
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Hey! Quit bringing up pool, will ya?! I'm hopin' to hustle Roger when we finally hook up! You keep talking about pool and guy will never play me :) Cheers, Tom Archer, Inside C# Mainstream is just a word for the way things always have been -- just a middle-of-the-road, tow-the-line thing; a front for the Man serving up the same warmed-over slop he did yesterday and expecting you to say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
Tom Archer wrote: I'm hopin' to hustle Roger when we finally hook up! I just figured with the new haircut he wouldn't recognize you anyway, so no harm done! :-) Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Brian Delahunty wrote: I hope everything works out for you and our wife That reminds me of the trouble Nish had, with his laptop keypad. Some of the keys were not working and he got the whole keypad replaced. I think its time, you check up yours too :) HTH ;) Smitha The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. --Eleanor Roosevelt
Hee hee hee. You evil, evil girl! :laugh:
Regards,Rohit Sinha
...celebrating Indian spirit and Cricket. 8MB video, really cool!
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Paul Watson wrote: Hey Mr. Archer, long time no see (though you really had gone inside C#) :laugh: :laugh: Paul Watson wrote: If I may ask, and hoping I haven't missed some news that makes this question a horrible one, how is the wife doing? She continues to do extremely well clinically (no temp, feels good, etc.). We saw her liver doc yesterday (we see him every two months). Her "numbers" (blood test results) continue to hold steady (which is good). However, one point of concern for the liver team is that she has some ambiguous numbers that are confusing them. Therefore, they've said that she's finally healthy enough to do a liver biopsy. I guess you could say it's D-Day at this point as this will enable the team to determine once and for all just how much damage her liver has sustained and will give them a clearer picture of what procedures they need to prescribe at this point. Needless to say, we're very anxious about all this, but at least this way we'll have a much firmer understanding of just where she is health-wise. Cheers, Tom Archer, Inside C# Mainstream is just a word for the way things always have been -- just a middle-of-the-road, tow-the-line thing; a front for the Man serving up the same warmed-over slop he did yesterday and expecting you to say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
Tom, sorry to hear about your wife's illness :( Having you around will be helping her to recover. Good luck to you both :rose: Elaine The tigress is here :-D
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Brian Delahunty wrote: I hope everything works out for you and our wife That reminds me of the trouble Nish had, with his laptop keypad. Some of the keys were not working and he got the whole keypad replaced. I think its time, you check up yours too :) HTH ;) Smitha The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. --Eleanor Roosevelt