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  • R RossMW

    Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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    deostroll
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    Maintain codebase in vb. There is nothing different between the two...except may be for productivity features enabled through use of the ide. There are probably other ide that give better productivity support. Try sharp develop for a change : [^]

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    • R RossMW

      Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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      * I usually mark them with a comment (end if, end for, ...), some find it childish, but I found it often helpful * setup VS to clearly show matching braces * ALWAYS use the {} even if there is only one statement. Most common error for me if someone else wrote something like (cause I never, ever do that):

      if [statement a]
      else if [statement b]
      else if [statement c]
      else if [statement d]
      else if [statement e]
      else if [statement f]
      else [statement g]

      and you need to insert an additional statement in between somewhere. hope this helps.

      V.
      (MQOTD rules and previous solutions)

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      • J justjoshin

        The keyboard shortcut "control }" will jump to the matching bracket if you can't immediately identify it. It will work when the cursor is either before or after an opening bracket or a closing bracket. I'd use that command every 5 minutes. very helpful when the scope of a set of brackets extends beyond the visible portion of the page.

        who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?

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        RossMW
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        Never knew that one. I'll have to give it a go. :)

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        • R RossMW

          Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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          Zafar Sultan
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          I have a habit of typing } followed by back key as soon as I type {. This keeps things under control as the chances to forget typing } are none. I would also suggest to try outlining for visual studio. Try this[^]. Using this you will be able to work in the current block while collapsing the other code blocks. Another thing I would like to suggest is the use of ctrl+K+D(for code formatting), Ctrl+M+O and Ctrl+M+P to toggle outlining. I find these combinations very handy while coding.

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            * I usually mark them with a comment (end if, end for, ...), some find it childish, but I found it often helpful * setup VS to clearly show matching braces * ALWAYS use the {} even if there is only one statement. Most common error for me if someone else wrote something like (cause I never, ever do that):

            if [statement a]
            else if [statement b]
            else if [statement c]
            else if [statement d]
            else if [statement e]
            else if [statement f]
            else [statement g]

            and you need to insert an additional statement in between somewhere. hope this helps.

            V.
            (MQOTD rules and previous solutions)

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            RossMW
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            Never thought of the obvious of commenting the end brace. Doh I have setup the ide to have a brighter highlight but I notice it sometimes does work. Generally if there is some other minor error..:confused:

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            • Z Zafar Sultan

              I have a habit of typing } followed by back key as soon as I type {. This keeps things under control as the chances to forget typing } are none. I would also suggest to try outlining for visual studio. Try this[^]. Using this you will be able to work in the current block while collapsing the other code blocks. Another thing I would like to suggest is the use of ctrl+K+D(for code formatting), Ctrl+M+O and Ctrl+M+P to toggle outlining. I find these combinations very handy while coding.

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              RossMW
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              The tool looks good. Going to give it a go when I can. Thanks

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              • R RossMW

                The tool looks good. Going to give it a go when I can. Thanks

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                Zafar Sultan
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                You're welcome :)

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                • S Super Lloyd

                  how about... instead of

                  if (condition)
                  {
                  ....
                  }

                  use

                  if (!condition)
                  return;
                  ....

                  All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar DirectX for WinRT/C# since 2013! Taking over the world since 1371!

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                  Not just that, but be consistent in your if statements if you don't want braces issue. i.e. ALWAYS use the braces, even in the above !condition case. Personally I find Resharper is an excellent tool to help "flatten" you code by suggesting inverting your if statements.

                  if (!condition)
                  {
                  return;
                  }

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                  • J JeremyBob

                    Not just that, but be consistent in your if statements if you don't want braces issue. i.e. ALWAYS use the braces, even in the above !condition case. Personally I find Resharper is an excellent tool to help "flatten" you code by suggesting inverting your if statements.

                    if (!condition)
                    {
                    return;
                    }

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                    Super Lloyd
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                    I am consistent!!!

                    If (one short liner or set value) put on the same line
                    else if (one long line) put below
                    else use brace!

                    See, I even use if to define if behavior! Top that! ;P

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                    • R RossMW

                      Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                      Slacker007
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                      RossMW wrote:

                      They can be time waster.

                      They have never been a time waster for me. I have never given it a second thought. Because you don't do this much, you will notice "everything", I would guess.

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                      • R RossMW

                        I main problem I seem to is after a lot of if, Switch or whatever and you end up with a lot of

                        }
                        }
                        }
                        }

                        and then trying to figure which } belong with which {

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                        Herbie Mountjoy
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                        VS is good at matching braces and so is Notepad++. But if you wany to nest things so deeply you ought to put it in a separate class or function.

                        I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.

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                        • J JeremyBob

                          Not just that, but be consistent in your if statements if you don't want braces issue. i.e. ALWAYS use the braces, even in the above !condition case. Personally I find Resharper is an excellent tool to help "flatten" you code by suggesting inverting your if statements.

                          if (!condition)
                          {
                          return;
                          }

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                          Herbie Mountjoy
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                          True but I lke to see Return(); at the end of a function. Just makes it easier to read.

                          I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.

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                          • R RossMW

                            Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                            Eric Whitmore
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                            I am constantly formatting the document. In VS it is Ctrl+E, D. This keeps the braces matched up.

                            Eric

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                            • R RossMW

                              Yes, very dimly. Makes it hide to find when you have to scroll to see it. Just have to remember the Left brace, right brace, back arrow, code... dance move...

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                              You can also use this to find the matching "{}" On the keypad use the Ctrl key on the right side of the keyboard. Press right Ctrl ] key combination. This will take you to the matching "{}".

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                              • R RossMW

                                Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                                BC3Tech
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                                Use the Tools.[^]

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                                • D Duncan Edwards Jones

                                  Left brace, right brace, back arrow, code...

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                                  { } Left + Top Enter ...Code...

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                                  • D Duncan Edwards Jones

                                    Left brace, right brace, back arrow, code...

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                                    { } Left Enter Top

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                                    • M Marc Clifton

                                      RossMW wrote:

                                      and then trying to figure which } belong with which {

                                      Dang, doesn't the IDE (dimly, I'll grant) light up the matching braces? [on my high horse] If you have that much nesting, maybe you should break the function apart into smaller calls? [/on my high horse] Marc

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                                      Before they started colour matching the {}, I got into the habit fo placing a comment following the closing brace with an inverted reference to the starting brace procedure name.

                                      The difficult may take time, the impossible a little longer.

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                                      • R RossMW

                                        Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                                        The Great Kazoo
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                                        What I have been known to do: void SomeLongFunction { // many lines of code } // end void SomeLongFunction

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                                        • R RossMW

                                          Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                                          No just use Resharper it does it for you.

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