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  • R RossMW

    Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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    Jeremy Falcon
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    Spend more time coding in C-style syntaxes rather than BASIC style ones. We're creatures of habit and muscle memory doesn't make this issue any better.

    Jeremy Falcon

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    • M Marc Clifton

      RossMW wrote:

      and then trying to figure which } belong with which {

      Dang, doesn't the IDE (dimly, I'll grant) light up the matching braces? [on my high horse] If you have that much nesting, maybe you should break the function apart into smaller calls? [/on my high horse] Marc

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      Sander Rossel
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      Actually that's a closing brace for your namespace, class, method and if statement. Not much nesting at all, it just looks that way in C# :) This is where I'd usually sing some VB praise, but having been away from VB for far too long I'm just not in the mood :laugh:

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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        Actually that's a closing brace for your namespace, class, method and if statement. Not much nesting at all, it just looks that way in C# :) This is where I'd usually sing some VB praise, but having been away from VB for far too long I'm just not in the mood :laugh:

        Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

        Regards, Sander

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        Marc Clifton
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        Sander Rossel wrote:

        Actually that's a closing brace for your namespace, class, method and if statement.

        Heh, good point. I usually never pay much attention to those. :) Marc

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        • R RossMW

          Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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          Mark_Wallace
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          Rotate your monitor 90 degrees, to portrait orientation. No kidding.

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          • R RossMW

            Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            Consistent formatting.

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            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

              Actually that's a closing brace for your namespace, class, method and if statement. Not much nesting at all, it just looks that way in C# :) This is where I'd usually sing some VB praise, but having been away from VB for far too long I'm just not in the mood :laugh:

              Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

              Regards, Sander

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              RossMW
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              It's one of the advantages of VB in that the end states what it's the end of. I think that just makes me a bit lazy on the formatting before coding.

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                Rotate your monitor 90 degrees, to portrait orientation. No kidding.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                RossMW
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                I have been tempted to rotate one of my two monitors, but I have to do other stuff which is best in landscape. Maybe I need more monitors! Keep up that winter tan...

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                • R RossMW

                  Yes, very dimly. Makes it hide to find when you have to scroll to see it. Just have to remember the Left brace, right brace, back arrow, code... dance move...

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                  Sascha Lefevre
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                  You can change the color of the highlighting :) clicky[^]

                  If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                    You can change the color of the highlighting :) clicky[^]

                    If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                    RossMW
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                    Thanks. Changed it to magenta, so now its easy to spot!

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                    • R RossMW

                      Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                      Super Lloyd
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                      how about... instead of

                      if (condition)
                      {
                      ....
                      }

                      use

                      if (!condition)
                      return;
                      ....

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                      • R RossMW

                        Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                        justjoshin
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                        The keyboard shortcut "control }" will jump to the matching bracket if you can't immediately identify it. It will work when the cursor is either before or after an opening bracket or a closing bracket. I'd use that command every 5 minutes. very helpful when the scope of a set of brackets extends beyond the visible portion of the page.

                        who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?

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                        • R RossMW

                          Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                          You need productivity tools for VS ? https://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/dbcb8670-889e-4a54-a226-a48a15e4cace[^]

                          Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

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                          • R RossMW

                            Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                            GuyThiebaut
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                            I code in VB and C# at work - my preference is for C~ due to what I describe as its 'elegance'. Occasionally when I swap over I catch myself adding a semicolon to some VB code however Visual Studio catches it and I soon remember that I am coding on VB. I don't find it too big a deal - being bilingual(English and French), for me it's a similar experience swapping between two programming languages and two spoken languages. Sometimes when I see some horrendous VB code I am heard to exclaim "Put*in de b*rdel de m*rde!" when I meant to comment in English

                            “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                            ― Christopher Hitchens

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                            • R RossMW

                              Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                              Brady Kelly
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                              As others have said, I close braces on opening them (well, I cheat and let ReSharper do that), and I keep the number of braced scopes in a method to a minimum, e.g. avoid nested braces like the plague. The highest level I normally get to is say for one loop or switch at a time.

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                              • R RossMW

                                Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                                R Erasmus
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                                I stick to languages derived from c. Currently mostly c, java and perl. I have no problems switch between these. Pitch to one of your managers to have the code you're maintaining rewritten in C#... Or rewrite it in C# and tell your boss what you've did and if they'd be interested in changing over to it. To my knowledge there should be no reason to write any code in vb... If we employ people, it is never a requirement to only know vb or only know C#... Its usually in the lines of, do you have vb or C# experience. As the task at hand can usually be performed in either. According to Wikipedia there are 89 different c derivative languages. C obviously had a winning recipe. Your subject should read 'Damn vb (why do they have to think they are special and different)'.

                                "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." << please vote!! >>

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                                • R RossMW

                                  Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                                  deostroll
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                                  Maintain codebase in vb. There is nothing different between the two...except may be for productivity features enabled through use of the ide. There are probably other ide that give better productivity support. Try sharp develop for a change : [^]

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                                  • R RossMW

                                    Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                                    * I usually mark them with a comment (end if, end for, ...), some find it childish, but I found it often helpful * setup VS to clearly show matching braces * ALWAYS use the {} even if there is only one statement. Most common error for me if someone else wrote something like (cause I never, ever do that):

                                    if [statement a]
                                    else if [statement b]
                                    else if [statement c]
                                    else if [statement d]
                                    else if [statement e]
                                    else if [statement f]
                                    else [statement g]

                                    and you need to insert an additional statement in between somewhere. hope this helps.

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                                    (MQOTD rules and previous solutions)

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                                      The keyboard shortcut "control }" will jump to the matching bracket if you can't immediately identify it. It will work when the cursor is either before or after an opening bracket or a closing bracket. I'd use that command every 5 minutes. very helpful when the scope of a set of brackets extends beyond the visible portion of the page.

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                                      RossMW
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                                      Never knew that one. I'll have to give it a go. :)

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                                      • R RossMW

                                        Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                                        Zafar Sultan
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                                        I have a habit of typing } followed by back key as soon as I type {. This keeps things under control as the chances to forget typing } are none. I would also suggest to try outlining for visual studio. Try this[^]. Using this you will be able to work in the current block while collapsing the other code blocks. Another thing I would like to suggest is the use of ctrl+K+D(for code formatting), Ctrl+M+O and Ctrl+M+P to toggle outlining. I find these combinations very handy while coding.

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                                          * I usually mark them with a comment (end if, end for, ...), some find it childish, but I found it often helpful * setup VS to clearly show matching braces * ALWAYS use the {} even if there is only one statement. Most common error for me if someone else wrote something like (cause I never, ever do that):

                                          if [statement a]
                                          else if [statement b]
                                          else if [statement c]
                                          else if [statement d]
                                          else if [statement e]
                                          else if [statement f]
                                          else [statement g]

                                          and you need to insert an additional statement in between somewhere. hope this helps.

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                                          (MQOTD rules and previous solutions)

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                                          RossMW
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                                          Never thought of the obvious of commenting the end brace. Doh I have setup the ide to have a brighter highlight but I notice it sometimes does work. Generally if there is some other minor error..:confused:

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