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  • R RossMW

    Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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    Marc Clifton
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    I find that after spending a day doing Ruby programming, my soul cries out to at least write a few lines of C# code in the evening. Ah... But to your question, my fingers are so programmed to type {} whenever I write a method, I can't really help you there. In fact, in Ruby where occasionally one does use {} I get really pissed off at the IDE for auto-completing the closing }. Or ] or ). Hmmm...I bet there's a way to kill that in RubyMine. :) Marc

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      I find that after spending a day doing Ruby programming, my soul cries out to at least write a few lines of C# code in the evening. Ah... But to your question, my fingers are so programmed to type {} whenever I write a method, I can't really help you there. In fact, in Ruby where occasionally one does use {} I get really pissed off at the IDE for auto-completing the closing }. Or ] or ). Hmmm...I bet there's a way to kill that in RubyMine. :) Marc

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      RossMW
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      I main problem I seem to is after a lot of if, Switch or whatever and you end up with a lot of

      }
      }
      }
      }

      and then trying to figure which } belong with which {

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      • R RossMW

        Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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        Duncan Edwards Jones
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        Left brace, right brace, back arrow, code...

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          Left brace, right brace, back arrow, code...

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          RossMW
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          Sounds like a dance move, cha cha cha

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          • R RossMW

            I main problem I seem to is after a lot of if, Switch or whatever and you end up with a lot of

            }
            }
            }
            }

            and then trying to figure which } belong with which {

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            Marc Clifton
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            RossMW wrote:

            and then trying to figure which } belong with which {

            Dang, doesn't the IDE (dimly, I'll grant) light up the matching braces? [on my high horse] If you have that much nesting, maybe you should break the function apart into smaller calls? [/on my high horse] Marc

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              Left brace, right brace, back arrow, code...

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              Marc Clifton
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              Duncan Edwards Jones wrote:

              Left brace, right brace, back arrow, code...

              Exactly! Marc

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              • M Marc Clifton

                RossMW wrote:

                and then trying to figure which } belong with which {

                Dang, doesn't the IDE (dimly, I'll grant) light up the matching braces? [on my high horse] If you have that much nesting, maybe you should break the function apart into smaller calls? [/on my high horse] Marc

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                RossMW
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                Yes, very dimly. Makes it hide to find when you have to scroll to see it. Just have to remember the Left brace, right brace, back arrow, code... dance move...

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                • R RossMW

                  Sounds like a dance move, cha cha cha

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                  Duncan Edwards Jones
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                  That it pretty much is - definitely muscle memory at this stage.

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                  • R RossMW

                    Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                    Jeremy Falcon
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                    Spend more time coding in C-style syntaxes rather than BASIC style ones. We're creatures of habit and muscle memory doesn't make this issue any better.

                    Jeremy Falcon

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      RossMW wrote:

                      and then trying to figure which } belong with which {

                      Dang, doesn't the IDE (dimly, I'll grant) light up the matching braces? [on my high horse] If you have that much nesting, maybe you should break the function apart into smaller calls? [/on my high horse] Marc

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                      Sander Rossel
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                      Actually that's a closing brace for your namespace, class, method and if statement. Not much nesting at all, it just looks that way in C# :) This is where I'd usually sing some VB praise, but having been away from VB for far too long I'm just not in the mood :laugh:

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                      Regards, Sander

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                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                        Actually that's a closing brace for your namespace, class, method and if statement. Not much nesting at all, it just looks that way in C# :) This is where I'd usually sing some VB praise, but having been away from VB for far too long I'm just not in the mood :laugh:

                        Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                        Regards, Sander

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                        Marc Clifton
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                        Sander Rossel wrote:

                        Actually that's a closing brace for your namespace, class, method and if statement.

                        Heh, good point. I usually never pay much attention to those. :) Marc

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                        • R RossMW

                          Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                          Mark_Wallace
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                          Rotate your monitor 90 degrees, to portrait orientation. No kidding.

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                          • R RossMW

                            Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                            PIEBALDconsult
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                            Consistent formatting.

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                            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                              Actually that's a closing brace for your namespace, class, method and if statement. Not much nesting at all, it just looks that way in C# :) This is where I'd usually sing some VB praise, but having been away from VB for far too long I'm just not in the mood :laugh:

                              Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                              Regards, Sander

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                              RossMW
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                              It's one of the advantages of VB in that the end states what it's the end of. I think that just makes me a bit lazy on the formatting before coding.

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                                Rotate your monitor 90 degrees, to portrait orientation. No kidding.

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                RossMW
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                                I have been tempted to rotate one of my two monitors, but I have to do other stuff which is best in landscape. Maybe I need more monitors! Keep up that winter tan...

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                                • R RossMW

                                  Yes, very dimly. Makes it hide to find when you have to scroll to see it. Just have to remember the Left brace, right brace, back arrow, code... dance move...

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                                  Sascha Lefevre
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                                  You can change the color of the highlighting :) clicky[^]

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                                    You can change the color of the highlighting :) clicky[^]

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                                    RossMW
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                                    Thanks. Changed it to magenta, so now its easy to spot!

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                                    • R RossMW

                                      Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                                      Super Lloyd
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                                      how about... instead of

                                      if (condition)
                                      {
                                      ....
                                      }

                                      use

                                      if (!condition)
                                      return;
                                      ....

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                                      • R RossMW

                                        Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                                        justjoshin
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                                        The keyboard shortcut "control }" will jump to the matching bracket if you can't immediately identify it. It will work when the cursor is either before or after an opening bracket or a closing bracket. I'd use that command every 5 minutes. very helpful when the scope of a set of brackets extends beyond the visible portion of the page.

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                                        • R RossMW

                                          Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                                          You need productivity tools for VS ? https://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/dbcb8670-889e-4a54-a226-a48a15e4cace[^]

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