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  • D Duncan Edwards Jones

    Left brace, right brace, back arrow, code...

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    Marc Clifton
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    Duncan Edwards Jones wrote:

    Left brace, right brace, back arrow, code...

    Exactly! Marc

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      I main problem I seem to is after a lot of if, Switch or whatever and you end up with a lot of

      }
      }
      }
      }

      and then trying to figure which } belong with which {

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      RossMW wrote:

      and then trying to figure which } belong with which {

      Dang, doesn't the IDE (dimly, I'll grant) light up the matching braces? [on my high horse] If you have that much nesting, maybe you should break the function apart into smaller calls? [/on my high horse] Marc

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        RossMW wrote:

        and then trying to figure which } belong with which {

        Dang, doesn't the IDE (dimly, I'll grant) light up the matching braces? [on my high horse] If you have that much nesting, maybe you should break the function apart into smaller calls? [/on my high horse] Marc

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        RossMW
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        Yes, very dimly. Makes it hide to find when you have to scroll to see it. Just have to remember the Left brace, right brace, back arrow, code... dance move...

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          Sounds like a dance move, cha cha cha

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          Duncan Edwards Jones
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          That it pretty much is - definitely muscle memory at this stage.

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          • R RossMW

            Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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            Jeremy Falcon
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            Spend more time coding in C-style syntaxes rather than BASIC style ones. We're creatures of habit and muscle memory doesn't make this issue any better.

            Jeremy Falcon

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            • M Marc Clifton

              RossMW wrote:

              and then trying to figure which } belong with which {

              Dang, doesn't the IDE (dimly, I'll grant) light up the matching braces? [on my high horse] If you have that much nesting, maybe you should break the function apart into smaller calls? [/on my high horse] Marc

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              Sander Rossel
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              Actually that's a closing brace for your namespace, class, method and if statement. Not much nesting at all, it just looks that way in C# :) This is where I'd usually sing some VB praise, but having been away from VB for far too long I'm just not in the mood :laugh:

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              Regards, Sander

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                Actually that's a closing brace for your namespace, class, method and if statement. Not much nesting at all, it just looks that way in C# :) This is where I'd usually sing some VB praise, but having been away from VB for far too long I'm just not in the mood :laugh:

                Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

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                Regards, Sander

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                Marc Clifton
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                Sander Rossel wrote:

                Actually that's a closing brace for your namespace, class, method and if statement.

                Heh, good point. I usually never pay much attention to those. :) Marc

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                • R RossMW

                  Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                  Mark_Wallace
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                  Rotate your monitor 90 degrees, to portrait orientation. No kidding.

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  • R RossMW

                    Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                    PIEBALDconsult
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                    Consistent formatting.

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      Actually that's a closing brace for your namespace, class, method and if statement. Not much nesting at all, it just looks that way in C# :) This is where I'd usually sing some VB praise, but having been away from VB for far too long I'm just not in the mood :laugh:

                      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                      Regards, Sander

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                      RossMW
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                      It's one of the advantages of VB in that the end states what it's the end of. I think that just makes me a bit lazy on the formatting before coding.

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                      • M Mark_Wallace

                        Rotate your monitor 90 degrees, to portrait orientation. No kidding.

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                        RossMW
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                        I have been tempted to rotate one of my two monitors, but I have to do other stuff which is best in landscape. Maybe I need more monitors! Keep up that winter tan...

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                        • R RossMW

                          Yes, very dimly. Makes it hide to find when you have to scroll to see it. Just have to remember the Left brace, right brace, back arrow, code... dance move...

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                          Sascha Lefevre
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                          You can change the color of the highlighting :) clicky[^]

                          If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                            You can change the color of the highlighting :) clicky[^]

                            If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                            RossMW
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                            Thanks. Changed it to magenta, so now its easy to spot!

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                            • R RossMW

                              Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                              Super Lloyd
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                              how about... instead of

                              if (condition)
                              {
                              ....
                              }

                              use

                              if (!condition)
                              return;
                              ....

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                                Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                                justjoshin
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                                The keyboard shortcut "control }" will jump to the matching bracket if you can't immediately identify it. It will work when the cursor is either before or after an opening bracket or a closing bracket. I'd use that command every 5 minutes. very helpful when the scope of a set of brackets extends beyond the visible portion of the page.

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                                  Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                                  virang_21
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                                  You need productivity tools for VS ? https://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/dbcb8670-889e-4a54-a226-a48a15e4cace[^]

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                                  • R RossMW

                                    Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                                    GuyThiebaut
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                                    I code in VB and C# at work - my preference is for C~ due to what I describe as its 'elegance'. Occasionally when I swap over I catch myself adding a semicolon to some VB code however Visual Studio catches it and I soon remember that I am coding on VB. I don't find it too big a deal - being bilingual(English and French), for me it's a similar experience swapping between two programming languages and two spoken languages. Sometimes when I see some horrendous VB code I am heard to exclaim "Put*in de b*rdel de m*rde!" when I meant to comment in English

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                                    • R RossMW

                                      Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                                      Brady Kelly
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                                      As others have said, I close braces on opening them (well, I cheat and let ReSharper do that), and I keep the number of braced scopes in a method to a minimum, e.g. avoid nested braces like the plague. The highest level I normally get to is say for one loop or switch at a time.

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                                      • R RossMW

                                        Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                                        R Erasmus
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                                        I stick to languages derived from c. Currently mostly c, java and perl. I have no problems switch between these. Pitch to one of your managers to have the code you're maintaining rewritten in C#... Or rewrite it in C# and tell your boss what you've did and if they'd be interested in changing over to it. To my knowledge there should be no reason to write any code in vb... If we employ people, it is never a requirement to only know vb or only know C#... Its usually in the lines of, do you have vb or C# experience. As the task at hand can usually be performed in either. According to Wikipedia there are 89 different c derivative languages. C obviously had a winning recipe. Your subject should read 'Damn vb (why do they have to think they are special and different)'.

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                                          Now, I am not interested in a VB versus C# debate but. In my job I only spend about 20% of my time coding. Being from a C# background anything new I would normally do in C# (and yes very occasionally VB), but I also have to maintain old VB code (and heaven forbid, very occasionally VB6). Normally I spent a month or two in each language (depending on the task at hand) and are happy in any camp. Changing back and forth between languages is relatively straight forward, but lately I noticed it takes me longer to get back into swing of C#. And the reason.. Well, I think its because I've got myself into bad c# typing habits from using vb. I seem to be wasting so time chasing missing / misplaced { }, forgetting semicolons case sensitivity and ()'s. Now semicolons, case and () problems are just a "Oh Bugger" moment, but as for missing / misplaced { } 's. They can be time waster. For all you pro c# developers, Do you have any tips on keeping these damn { } under control?

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                                          deostroll
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                                          Maintain codebase in vb. There is nothing different between the two...except may be for productivity features enabled through use of the ide. There are probably other ide that give better productivity support. Try sharp develop for a change : [^]

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