Using a Mac, [a bit over] a week later
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`Cough cough[^] :) that was in the "cons" list
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Rage wrote:
Plus the desktop had many icons on it
Which, to me, is a terrible thing to do.
Rage wrote:
Yeah, make the obvious hidden by default
Yeah, looking at the preferences wasn't obvious at all. :rolleyes:
Rage wrote:
Intuitive seems to be a concept, then.
Nobody is claiming that Apple is perfect but it helps to at least have an open mind when using something new. Sheesh! Were you one of those guys that screamed and whined when Windows 95 came out because it was soooo much different than Windows 3.1?
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
eah, looking at the preferences wasn't obvious at all.
Looking at the preferences to make it possible accessing the content of a USB key with the what-should-be a file explorer ?? Really ?
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Nobody is claiming that Apple is perfect
I do not want them to be perfect. I was only expecting a bit more for a device that costs about 4x more than its equivalent in the PC world. Apple braggs about everything being simple and shiny, well, in my experience it was far from being that. All I wanted was to download some file to a USB disk, and it took me 10 minutes. Never again.
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Surprisingly, I'm largely over the "who moved my cheese?" phase. It's a bit of a mixed bag:
Pros
- Very stable
- Very light - went home without the beast like Dell for the first time last night and had to check I'd actually packed the machine. This is a biggie
- Some of the OS well thought through, it's pretty similar to Ubuntu's GUI TBH. Some processes are very smooth
- Bootup time, compared to win7 at least is insane
Cons
- Finder - a sort of windows file explorer-cum-search. Makes it unnecessarily difficult to perform basic tasks- can copy but not cut. Rename is insane - need to go to the "Get Info" popup and do it there, from the people who criticised MS for putting shut down in the start menu. No real sense of where you are in the file system - I want to be able to navigate a path. Sometimes I've dropped into a terminal because its easier
- Had to learn a silly amount of keyboard shortcuts - I'd want to learn most of these anyway to be fair, I know the equivalents in windows, but on for some tasks its quicker to take the hand of the mouse and use the keyboard.
- A keyboard that doesn't have a # (alt-4 on a mac) but does have a key for ± / § is not a keyboard designed for actual use. The physical keyboard is good otherwise
- Nobody, in the whole world, will need more than 2 USB ports. But thunderbolt with adapters - they need to be everywhere
I'm doing a lot of screenshot work preparing materials, this typifies my experience. No PrintScreen key, so i've had to learn the shortcut (cmd-shift-4) bad. Instead of printing the screen, I get a selection cursor to choose which area to capture good. The image is saved as a .png to my desktop bad apple, naughty apple, haughty apple - the filename defaults to a date and time, so I need to use either the terminal to move and rename, or scrabble round the UI. I really don't understand what the hype is about - it's OK as a machine, I wouldn't pay that much for one. Using for (mostly JS) dev the experience is similar to working under a *NIX - pretty good, but again I'd rather save the cash and do just that.
KeithBarrow.net[^] - It might not be very good, but at least it is free!
It is nice, until you start doing something serious with it. It gets job done when the job is simple. But when you start using it for serious work, it really gets in your way. And like all the other Apple products it will make you feel stupid / frustrated with simple tasks even if you are a pro. Yes, the Finder is a bad design. I still remember googling for 'How to rename a file in Mac' (there is no option in Edit menu also :omg: ), 'How to do a slideshow in Mac', 'How to open a file using Keyboard in Mac' and few other embarrassing searches, and it was really simple but not-intuitive (take that Apple) like press Enter (rename), press Space-bar (slideshow) and press Ctrl + Down Arrow (open). It took me few days to get over the lack of Backspace key, specially when I was coding. And it still annoy me that Mac can read, but can't write to my external HDDs, because they are formatted with NTFS. When you backup/import your Music/Photos with iTunes/iPhoto, you can't find it on the HDD anywhere. Also be gentle/careful with the power adapter, the cable 'will' break (near the power pin) and it will cost you an arm (take a look at its reviews on Apple Store). And be ready for GBs and GBs of updates every few days. Apps will get updated for the latest version of a Mac OS, even if you are using an older version. The Mac App-Store's prices will make you laugh, > $100.00 for Apps that does so much little. So most of the negatives are due to the awful Mac OS and not because of Mac (They know hardware but don't know software, opposite of Microsoft), if you install Windows on it. It will be very useful. ;P On the positive side: I really like the portability, track-pad, keyboard feel, display, long battery life, overall built-quality and other people's oh wow expressions (which, I will never understand why).
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How do u know someone is using a Mac? Answer: He tells you!
Keith Barrow wrote:
Nobody, in the whole world, will need more than 2 USB ports.
GDIAF... i'm using 5 ...
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How do u know someone is using a Mac? Answer: He tells you!
Yep, just like LGBT people. Straight people don't feel it is necessary to tell you they are straight. Just like Windows' users don't feel it necessary to tell you they use Windows, but Mac users do. I guess Mac users are LGBT people. :laugh: :laugh: Runs and hides from P.C. police.
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Rage wrote:
Plus the desktop had many icons on it
Which, to me, is a terrible thing to do.
Rage wrote:
Yeah, make the obvious hidden by default
Yeah, looking at the preferences wasn't obvious at all. :rolleyes:
Rage wrote:
Intuitive seems to be a concept, then.
Nobody is claiming that Apple is perfect but it helps to at least have an open mind when using something new. Sheesh! Were you one of those guys that screamed and whined when Windows 95 came out because it was soooo much different than Windows 3.1?
Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
it helps to at least have an open mind when using something new
:thumbsup: Exactamundo!
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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A couple of tips.. * Renaming - just press enter on the file or folder you want to rename. * Cut - If you open finder, then either do CMD-T or CMD-N (that'll bring up another tab or window) you can drag your file/folder from one place to another) * Navigation - if you show the status bar on the bottom of the finder window (it's a setting you can access from the UI) it'll show you the full path. You can go up a level in the hierarchy by holding CMD and pressing the up arrow key. I'm a .NET developer (since 2005 - C, C++ and many others before that) and it really feels like a major step backwards using a Windows 8.1 machine these days. Visual Studio is great but it's now the only application I use that I need a PC for. I don't know if you use an iPad and/or iPhone but along with the Mac? They works extremely well together. After just over 2 years of using a Mac, my Mac is the device of choice for me for everyday use. I used to whine on about Apple devices years ago, but now accept I was wrong. Give it time, put the effort in to get to know the machine and you'll end up loving it, I'm sure :)
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
Cheer for this - I'm in the weird position of liking keyboard shortcuts, but resenting the fact that I'm being forced to at the moment - especially given the how Mac OSs are pitched on usability. Time will tell if I come round to it all a bit further.
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Cheer for this - I'm in the weird position of liking keyboard shortcuts, but resenting the fact that I'm being forced to at the moment - especially given the how Mac OSs are pitched on usability. Time will tell if I come round to it all a bit further.
KeithBarrow.net[^] - It might not be very good, but at least it is free!
Back on the Mac now.. just checked the navigation path bar bit, it's enabled when in Finder from View -> Show Path Bar :) I think the change from Windows to OS X can be jarring, especially around the keyboard shortcuts. There are a lot of them (I'm still finding out about new ones every few weeks) but the good news is that a lot of them work consistently across most applications. You can still do everything with the mouse, but once you've picked up a few shortcuts things really start to fly. Personally, I really love the MacBook's trackpad - the gestures work brilliantly for me, really making things quick when I've got apps open on multiple desktops. I can't help thinking why hasn't Microsoft added multiple desktops to Windows - OS X and Linux have had them for ages and it seems more sensible than trying to fit a dozen windows onto a single screen? :)
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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I'm using Yosemite but hardly use USB sticks these days.. (yeah, I like the cloud too :laugh:) I remember seeing it last time I used a USB stick, odd if they've made it a setting though - that wouldn't make sense to disable it.. how are you supposed to unmount the drive?
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
Brent Jenkins wrote:
I remember seeing it last time I used a USB stick, odd if they've made it a setting though
I'm not sure how it transitioned through updates vs. fresh installs. I'm also going on memory since my Mac is at home and I'm at work (Win 7).
Brent Jenkins wrote:
how are you supposed to unmount the drive?
Maybe through the drive shortcut that pops up on the desktop.
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
eah, looking at the preferences wasn't obvious at all.
Looking at the preferences to make it possible accessing the content of a USB key with the what-should-be a file explorer ?? Really ?
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Nobody is claiming that Apple is perfect
I do not want them to be perfect. I was only expecting a bit more for a device that costs about 4x more than its equivalent in the PC world. Apple braggs about everything being simple and shiny, well, in my experience it was far from being that. All I wanted was to download some file to a USB disk, and it took me 10 minutes. Never again.
Rage wrote:
a device that costs about 4x more than its equivalent in the PC world
:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: Not where I live. In the US there might be a 10-15% premium for Mac's versus Dell/HP/Lenovo when comparing "equivalent" products. That's a premium I'm willing to pay for the benefits I see.
Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.
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Surprisingly, I'm largely over the "who moved my cheese?" phase. It's a bit of a mixed bag:
Pros
- Very stable
- Very light - went home without the beast like Dell for the first time last night and had to check I'd actually packed the machine. This is a biggie
- Some of the OS well thought through, it's pretty similar to Ubuntu's GUI TBH. Some processes are very smooth
- Bootup time, compared to win7 at least is insane
Cons
- Finder - a sort of windows file explorer-cum-search. Makes it unnecessarily difficult to perform basic tasks- can copy but not cut. Rename is insane - need to go to the "Get Info" popup and do it there, from the people who criticised MS for putting shut down in the start menu. No real sense of where you are in the file system - I want to be able to navigate a path. Sometimes I've dropped into a terminal because its easier
- Had to learn a silly amount of keyboard shortcuts - I'd want to learn most of these anyway to be fair, I know the equivalents in windows, but on for some tasks its quicker to take the hand of the mouse and use the keyboard.
- A keyboard that doesn't have a # (alt-4 on a mac) but does have a key for ± / § is not a keyboard designed for actual use. The physical keyboard is good otherwise
- Nobody, in the whole world, will need more than 2 USB ports. But thunderbolt with adapters - they need to be everywhere
I'm doing a lot of screenshot work preparing materials, this typifies my experience. No PrintScreen key, so i've had to learn the shortcut (cmd-shift-4) bad. Instead of printing the screen, I get a selection cursor to choose which area to capture good. The image is saved as a .png to my desktop bad apple, naughty apple, haughty apple - the filename defaults to a date and time, so I need to use either the terminal to move and rename, or scrabble round the UI. I really don't understand what the hype is about - it's OK as a machine, I wouldn't pay that much for one. Using for (mostly JS) dev the experience is similar to working under a *NIX - pretty good, but again I'd rather save the cash and do just that.
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Keith Barrow wrote:
who moved my cheese?
I went through that back in 1998 when I switched from OS 7.5.5 (on a Powermac 6100) to Win98. I haven't looked back since! I do remember 'Finder' from those days as it tended to crash often. :laugh: :laugh: Great times!
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It is nice, until you start doing something serious with it. It gets job done when the job is simple. But when you start using it for serious work, it really gets in your way. And like all the other Apple products it will make you feel stupid / frustrated with simple tasks even if you are a pro. Yes, the Finder is a bad design. I still remember googling for 'How to rename a file in Mac' (there is no option in Edit menu also :omg: ), 'How to do a slideshow in Mac', 'How to open a file using Keyboard in Mac' and few other embarrassing searches, and it was really simple but not-intuitive (take that Apple) like press Enter (rename), press Space-bar (slideshow) and press Ctrl + Down Arrow (open). It took me few days to get over the lack of Backspace key, specially when I was coding. And it still annoy me that Mac can read, but can't write to my external HDDs, because they are formatted with NTFS. When you backup/import your Music/Photos with iTunes/iPhoto, you can't find it on the HDD anywhere. Also be gentle/careful with the power adapter, the cable 'will' break (near the power pin) and it will cost you an arm (take a look at its reviews on Apple Store). And be ready for GBs and GBs of updates every few days. Apps will get updated for the latest version of a Mac OS, even if you are using an older version. The Mac App-Store's prices will make you laugh, > $100.00 for Apps that does so much little. So most of the negatives are due to the awful Mac OS and not because of Mac (They know hardware but don't know software, opposite of Microsoft), if you install Windows on it. It will be very useful. ;P On the positive side: I really like the portability, track-pad, keyboard feel, display, long battery life, overall built-quality and other people's oh wow expressions (which, I will never understand why).
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Rutvik Dave wrote:
It is nice, until you start doing something serious with it. It gets job done when the job is simple. But when you start using it for serious work, it really gets in your way. And like all the other Apple products it will make you feel stupid / frustrated with simple tasks even if you are a pro.
Can you give a few examples of the "serious" work that you do so easily on a Windows PC that is so difficult on a Mac? This is an honest question. I've seen a few others make the same general claim and I'll be damned if I can't think of any work I do in Windows that isn't similarly easy or hard on my Mac. Makes me wonder what others are doing that I'm not.
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Rutvik Dave wrote:
It is nice, until you start doing something serious with it. It gets job done when the job is simple. But when you start using it for serious work, it really gets in your way. And like all the other Apple products it will make you feel stupid / frustrated with simple tasks even if you are a pro.
Can you give a few examples of the "serious" work that you do so easily on a Windows PC that is so difficult on a Mac? This is an honest question. I've seen a few others make the same general claim and I'll be damned if I can't think of any work I do in Windows that isn't similarly easy or hard on my Mac. Makes me wonder what others are doing that I'm not.
Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Can you give a few examples of the "serious" work that you do so easily on a Windows PC that is so difficult on a Mac?
Off the top of my head, "Doom" and "Quake" come to mind. :-\
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Surprisingly, I'm largely over the "who moved my cheese?" phase. It's a bit of a mixed bag:
Pros
- Very stable
- Very light - went home without the beast like Dell for the first time last night and had to check I'd actually packed the machine. This is a biggie
- Some of the OS well thought through, it's pretty similar to Ubuntu's GUI TBH. Some processes are very smooth
- Bootup time, compared to win7 at least is insane
Cons
- Finder - a sort of windows file explorer-cum-search. Makes it unnecessarily difficult to perform basic tasks- can copy but not cut. Rename is insane - need to go to the "Get Info" popup and do it there, from the people who criticised MS for putting shut down in the start menu. No real sense of where you are in the file system - I want to be able to navigate a path. Sometimes I've dropped into a terminal because its easier
- Had to learn a silly amount of keyboard shortcuts - I'd want to learn most of these anyway to be fair, I know the equivalents in windows, but on for some tasks its quicker to take the hand of the mouse and use the keyboard.
- A keyboard that doesn't have a # (alt-4 on a mac) but does have a key for ± / § is not a keyboard designed for actual use. The physical keyboard is good otherwise
- Nobody, in the whole world, will need more than 2 USB ports. But thunderbolt with adapters - they need to be everywhere
I'm doing a lot of screenshot work preparing materials, this typifies my experience. No PrintScreen key, so i've had to learn the shortcut (cmd-shift-4) bad. Instead of printing the screen, I get a selection cursor to choose which area to capture good. The image is saved as a .png to my desktop bad apple, naughty apple, haughty apple - the filename defaults to a date and time, so I need to use either the terminal to move and rename, or scrabble round the UI. I really don't understand what the hype is about - it's OK as a machine, I wouldn't pay that much for one. Using for (mostly JS) dev the experience is similar to working under a *NIX - pretty good, but again I'd rather save the cash and do just that.
KeithBarrow.net[^] - It might not be very good, but at least it is free!
I went through that pain about two years ago, though I used the mac only part time (for an intended port--the entire project got canceled before I had to do serious work.) My view of Apple is that as long as you do things the way they want you to do them, everything is fine. Deviate from that and your life gets difficult. One thing I never got over (of many) was how the UI seemed to be three UIs cobbled into one and one was still using thirty year old font. I never did adjust to how some options in xcode were in the xcode menu and some were on the global menu (whatever it's called.) and some weren't on any menu at all (the silly amount of keyboard shortcuts issue, which wouldn't have been so bad had the key combinations made logical sense.) Then there's the joy of windows popping up in the background with no indication anywhere that a window popped up in the background.
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Rutvik Dave wrote:
It is nice, until you start doing something serious with it. It gets job done when the job is simple. But when you start using it for serious work, it really gets in your way. And like all the other Apple products it will make you feel stupid / frustrated with simple tasks even if you are a pro.
Can you give a few examples of the "serious" work that you do so easily on a Windows PC that is so difficult on a Mac? This is an honest question. I've seen a few others make the same general claim and I'll be damned if I can't think of any work I do in Windows that isn't similarly easy or hard on my Mac. Makes me wonder what others are doing that I'm not.
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e.g... - Mac will not work properly on a network, - It doesn't work when I enable user quota and permission on my NAS, - It can't write to my friend's external HDD (because most of them are formatted with NTFS partitions, it can read but not write), - It can't read from my smartphone that is connected using USB (no usb mass storage mode), - sometimes it will not connect to my mobile hotspot (this happened many times on my client demo). - Can't connect projector. not even my PICO projector with USB port. - Many times it will not find the printer on a network. - Desktop window management sucks, you need to do some stupid gestures to find that Copy Files Progress window. - Crazy amount of terminal commands required to setup a development environment. - And the amount of internet bandwidth it consumes is insane. - Many apps will not have a proper installation process so when you drag it to your Application, it will ask you if you want to run this unknown app even when you have enabled to run unknown apps it in the settings. - My usb headphones doesn't work on a Mac. It doesn't have a microphone jack so my other headphones also doesn't work. I am not saying there is no fix for all of the above, and I am not even looking for answers. What I am trying to say is when I try to use Mac in my office it gets in my way (Mostly due to design choices Apple made on behalf of you). It makes my system admin feel stupid even they are very good at windows and linux. It works great at my home for surfing and watching movies. :)
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Surprisingly, I'm largely over the "who moved my cheese?" phase. It's a bit of a mixed bag:
Pros
- Very stable
- Very light - went home without the beast like Dell for the first time last night and had to check I'd actually packed the machine. This is a biggie
- Some of the OS well thought through, it's pretty similar to Ubuntu's GUI TBH. Some processes are very smooth
- Bootup time, compared to win7 at least is insane
Cons
- Finder - a sort of windows file explorer-cum-search. Makes it unnecessarily difficult to perform basic tasks- can copy but not cut. Rename is insane - need to go to the "Get Info" popup and do it there, from the people who criticised MS for putting shut down in the start menu. No real sense of where you are in the file system - I want to be able to navigate a path. Sometimes I've dropped into a terminal because its easier
- Had to learn a silly amount of keyboard shortcuts - I'd want to learn most of these anyway to be fair, I know the equivalents in windows, but on for some tasks its quicker to take the hand of the mouse and use the keyboard.
- A keyboard that doesn't have a # (alt-4 on a mac) but does have a key for ± / § is not a keyboard designed for actual use. The physical keyboard is good otherwise
- Nobody, in the whole world, will need more than 2 USB ports. But thunderbolt with adapters - they need to be everywhere
I'm doing a lot of screenshot work preparing materials, this typifies my experience. No PrintScreen key, so i've had to learn the shortcut (cmd-shift-4) bad. Instead of printing the screen, I get a selection cursor to choose which area to capture good. The image is saved as a .png to my desktop bad apple, naughty apple, haughty apple - the filename defaults to a date and time, so I need to use either the terminal to move and rename, or scrabble round the UI. I really don't understand what the hype is about - it's OK as a machine, I wouldn't pay that much for one. Using for (mostly JS) dev the experience is similar to working under a *NIX - pretty good, but again I'd rather save the cash and do just that.
KeithBarrow.net[^] - It might not be very good, but at least it is free!
Few more tips: - cmd-ctrl-shift-4 will place the selected screen area into clipboard, not a desktop file. - I often go to Preview and press cmd-n to create new file from clipboard. - cmd-shift-3 and cmd-ctrl-shift-3 will do the same as their -4 counterparts, but for fullscreen Btw. you have apparently some strange keyboard, I never seen a mac with # key in any other place but shift-3 ;)
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Surprisingly, I'm largely over the "who moved my cheese?" phase. It's a bit of a mixed bag:
Pros
- Very stable
- Very light - went home without the beast like Dell for the first time last night and had to check I'd actually packed the machine. This is a biggie
- Some of the OS well thought through, it's pretty similar to Ubuntu's GUI TBH. Some processes are very smooth
- Bootup time, compared to win7 at least is insane
Cons
- Finder - a sort of windows file explorer-cum-search. Makes it unnecessarily difficult to perform basic tasks- can copy but not cut. Rename is insane - need to go to the "Get Info" popup and do it there, from the people who criticised MS for putting shut down in the start menu. No real sense of where you are in the file system - I want to be able to navigate a path. Sometimes I've dropped into a terminal because its easier
- Had to learn a silly amount of keyboard shortcuts - I'd want to learn most of these anyway to be fair, I know the equivalents in windows, but on for some tasks its quicker to take the hand of the mouse and use the keyboard.
- A keyboard that doesn't have a # (alt-4 on a mac) but does have a key for ± / § is not a keyboard designed for actual use. The physical keyboard is good otherwise
- Nobody, in the whole world, will need more than 2 USB ports. But thunderbolt with adapters - they need to be everywhere
I'm doing a lot of screenshot work preparing materials, this typifies my experience. No PrintScreen key, so i've had to learn the shortcut (cmd-shift-4) bad. Instead of printing the screen, I get a selection cursor to choose which area to capture good. The image is saved as a .png to my desktop bad apple, naughty apple, haughty apple - the filename defaults to a date and time, so I need to use either the terminal to move and rename, or scrabble round the UI. I really don't understand what the hype is about - it's OK as a machine, I wouldn't pay that much for one. Using for (mostly JS) dev the experience is similar to working under a *NIX - pretty good, but again I'd rather save the cash and do just that.
KeithBarrow.net[^] - It might not be very good, but at least it is free!
I've been using Mac for ages - I love OSX, but would agree that the "It just works" thing isn't always the case. There are some pretty strange/non-obvious things which you need to do on the Mac. To change the filename in finder: select the file to change, and then press 'Enter'. Quick to use when you know it's there, but intuitive? Hell no. And don't get me started on the hundreds of hidden characters - on my (Finnish) keyboard, the {} | $ and many more are all hidden behind the alt key, and not marked on the keyboard at all. You get used to it after maybe 5 years, and it's always fun to alt through all the keyboard characters to see what's there. •Ω鮆µıœπ About a year ago, Apple started taunting us with the mysteriously moving taskbar on dual-monitor machines. No word of warning, it just suddenly started moving between screens - took a few weeks to figure out the mouse moves for it. Thanks, Apple. I would really really love it if I could cmd+tab to a specific application window rather than just an application - something you can do in Windows and Linux but not Mac. Although you can keyboard through all the terminal windows, which is nice. (Cmd + arrow keys, only works on Terminal). And I really hate the 'natural scrolling crap' which they forced on us - like 99% of Mac users, I switch it off first thing. Love my , but not blind to the strange/questionable OSX design decisions.
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Surprisingly, I'm largely over the "who moved my cheese?" phase. It's a bit of a mixed bag:
Pros
- Very stable
- Very light - went home without the beast like Dell for the first time last night and had to check I'd actually packed the machine. This is a biggie
- Some of the OS well thought through, it's pretty similar to Ubuntu's GUI TBH. Some processes are very smooth
- Bootup time, compared to win7 at least is insane
Cons
- Finder - a sort of windows file explorer-cum-search. Makes it unnecessarily difficult to perform basic tasks- can copy but not cut. Rename is insane - need to go to the "Get Info" popup and do it there, from the people who criticised MS for putting shut down in the start menu. No real sense of where you are in the file system - I want to be able to navigate a path. Sometimes I've dropped into a terminal because its easier
- Had to learn a silly amount of keyboard shortcuts - I'd want to learn most of these anyway to be fair, I know the equivalents in windows, but on for some tasks its quicker to take the hand of the mouse and use the keyboard.
- A keyboard that doesn't have a # (alt-4 on a mac) but does have a key for ± / § is not a keyboard designed for actual use. The physical keyboard is good otherwise
- Nobody, in the whole world, will need more than 2 USB ports. But thunderbolt with adapters - they need to be everywhere
I'm doing a lot of screenshot work preparing materials, this typifies my experience. No PrintScreen key, so i've had to learn the shortcut (cmd-shift-4) bad. Instead of printing the screen, I get a selection cursor to choose which area to capture good. The image is saved as a .png to my desktop bad apple, naughty apple, haughty apple - the filename defaults to a date and time, so I need to use either the terminal to move and rename, or scrabble round the UI. I really don't understand what the hype is about - it's OK as a machine, I wouldn't pay that much for one. Using for (mostly JS) dev the experience is similar to working under a *NIX - pretty good, but again I'd rather save the cash and do just that.
KeithBarrow.net[^] - It might not be very good, but at least it is free!
Cut is done at the paste destination by using CMD+ALT+V Show path in finder footer Via view menu (or finder preferences, can't recall). Tags can be very useful in finder if you use the file system a lot. Familiarise with finder preferences difficult to perform basic tasks- can copy but not cut. Rename is insane - need to go to the "Get Info" popup and do it there, from the people who criticised MS for putting shut down in the start menu. No real sense of where you are in the file system - I want to be able to navigate a path
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Does this explain why most Apple enthusiasts are apparently so open minded that their brains fall out?
So what's the alternative? Sticking in one camp or the other, trolling "competing" forums, like Android vs iOS, PC vs Mac, C# vs Java? Does any of that behaviour actually make any sense? Perhaps as professional software developers, we should embrace new technologies and enjoy using new bits of kit or different ways of doing things.. look into them, work our their pros and cons and determine if we can make things better? Just a though :)
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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Surprisingly, I'm largely over the "who moved my cheese?" phase. It's a bit of a mixed bag:
Pros
- Very stable
- Very light - went home without the beast like Dell for the first time last night and had to check I'd actually packed the machine. This is a biggie
- Some of the OS well thought through, it's pretty similar to Ubuntu's GUI TBH. Some processes are very smooth
- Bootup time, compared to win7 at least is insane
Cons
- Finder - a sort of windows file explorer-cum-search. Makes it unnecessarily difficult to perform basic tasks- can copy but not cut. Rename is insane - need to go to the "Get Info" popup and do it there, from the people who criticised MS for putting shut down in the start menu. No real sense of where you are in the file system - I want to be able to navigate a path. Sometimes I've dropped into a terminal because its easier
- Had to learn a silly amount of keyboard shortcuts - I'd want to learn most of these anyway to be fair, I know the equivalents in windows, but on for some tasks its quicker to take the hand of the mouse and use the keyboard.
- A keyboard that doesn't have a # (alt-4 on a mac) but does have a key for ± / § is not a keyboard designed for actual use. The physical keyboard is good otherwise
- Nobody, in the whole world, will need more than 2 USB ports. But thunderbolt with adapters - they need to be everywhere
I'm doing a lot of screenshot work preparing materials, this typifies my experience. No PrintScreen key, so i've had to learn the shortcut (cmd-shift-4) bad. Instead of printing the screen, I get a selection cursor to choose which area to capture good. The image is saved as a .png to my desktop bad apple, naughty apple, haughty apple - the filename defaults to a date and time, so I need to use either the terminal to move and rename, or scrabble round the UI. I really don't understand what the hype is about - it's OK as a machine, I wouldn't pay that much for one. Using for (mostly JS) dev the experience is similar to working under a *NIX - pretty good, but again I'd rather save the cash and do just that.
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A few protips, I swapped over to OSx full time a few months ago, and I can say going back to Linux or Windows is not on my todo list for a every-day machine. Renaming files can be done easily; click on the name for 1/2 a second, and leave your cursor over it, it will allow you to rename it. Install LightShot, works on Windows and OSx, I assigned like CMD+^+9 for it and I can easily take a selection and save to where I want quickly, or just CMD+C and paste as normal. USB port overpopulation is something you can't really complain about, I have a desktop running a 'Slightly modified version of OSx'; USB sound card, webcam, keyboard and USB dongle plugged in, I could ditch the sound card (Internal went funny, and I had this on the side so I figured it will keep me running) and the webcam if needed, but USB ports are handy! With my macbook on the other hand, I hardly use them because its always being moved around. USB ports are handy on desktops, but on laptops they're more of a 'Ohh, I can plug a mouse in while I do this tedious bit of work' or for USB drives, however I transfer most files over the network using the file sharing or just good ol' rsync. Moving files is more done using drag-and-drop methods, if you wish to move a file between devices you're screwed, better move and delete or just fire up a terminal. All in all, OSx is designed for simplicity for new users, the biggest issue is coming from Windows or Linux and expecting stuff to work how it used to. Best tip I can give is to forget how you worked on another operating system and just accept what they've given you, or abuse the terminal to hell.