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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    cunning stunts cunning stunts cunning stunts cunning stunts cunning stunts cunning stunts cunning stunts cunning stunts cunning stunts There - happy? :laugh:

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    Now try "ox boll". ;P


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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      Richard Deeming wrote:

      Or have you never seen Sean on a Saturday night Casual Friday?

      FTFY!

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      Nagy Vilmos
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      A dress on Casual Friday? Are you mad? Sean would never pass on a chance for getting out the peek-a-doo onesie!

      veni bibi saltavi

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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        So whenever I'm writing I often wonder about all kinds of small and silly language details. I just wondered what the (more?) correct translation of the Dutch word 'ingevuld' is. My first thought was 'fill out' (as in "can you fill out this questionnaire?"). Then I though 'fill in' (as in "can you fill in this questionnaire?"). Google Translate just gives me 'fill' when I give it 'invullen'. I think both are correct even though 'in' and 'out' are each others opposites... Of course 'fill in' can also be used in the following sentence: "Can you fill me in on the details?", where 'fill out' would be a no-go: "Can you fill me out on the details?". Any ideas on what I should use? In or out?

        Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

        Regards, Sander

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        Marc Clifton
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        http://www.in-n-out.com/ It was a popular thing, when they sold bumper stickers, to remove the "B" and the "R". ;) Marc

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          So whenever I'm writing I often wonder about all kinds of small and silly language details. I just wondered what the (more?) correct translation of the Dutch word 'ingevuld' is. My first thought was 'fill out' (as in "can you fill out this questionnaire?"). Then I though 'fill in' (as in "can you fill in this questionnaire?"). Google Translate just gives me 'fill' when I give it 'invullen'. I think both are correct even though 'in' and 'out' are each others opposites... Of course 'fill in' can also be used in the following sentence: "Can you fill me in on the details?", where 'fill out' would be a no-go: "Can you fill me out on the details?". Any ideas on what I should use? In or out?

          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

          Regards, Sander

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          Roger Wright
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          Though I've been called a cunning linguist by some, the only answer I can think of at this time is, "complete."

          Will Rogers never met me.

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          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

            So whenever I'm writing I often wonder about all kinds of small and silly language details. I just wondered what the (more?) correct translation of the Dutch word 'ingevuld' is. My first thought was 'fill out' (as in "can you fill out this questionnaire?"). Then I though 'fill in' (as in "can you fill in this questionnaire?"). Google Translate just gives me 'fill' when I give it 'invullen'. I think both are correct even though 'in' and 'out' are each others opposites... Of course 'fill in' can also be used in the following sentence: "Can you fill me in on the details?", where 'fill out' would be a no-go: "Can you fill me out on the details?". Any ideas on what I should use? In or out?

            Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

            Regards, Sander

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            Lost User
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            What is the difference between filling out and filling in a questionnaire? It is "ingevuld", "filled in".

            Sander Rossel wrote:

            I think both are correct even though 'in' and 'out' are each others opposites...

            As you already said yourself, 'fill out on details' is a no go - spoken language is not coherently logical.

            Sander Rossel wrote:

            In or out?

            Throw 'filled out' into GTrans and have your answer.

            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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            • Y Yvan Rodrigues

              **Fill in** and **fill out** are both correct, but are a bit informal. In a technical manual I would use something like: * Please **complete** this questionnaire. * Please **answer** this questionnaire. * Please **respond to** this questionnaire. * Can you **explain** the details to me? * Can you **update** me on the details? etc.

              Yvan Rodrigues, C.Tech. Red Cell Innovation Inc.

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              Lost User
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              Yvan Rodrigues wrote:

              Please answer this questionnaire.

              It did not ask me a question, it is a list of questions.

              Yvan Rodrigues wrote:

              Please respond to this questionnaire.

              My old English teach would ask what kind of response I'd be expecting from the piece of paper :) I could respond to your request to fill out the form. You can fill out the form by filling in your answer to each question.

              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                So whenever I'm writing I often wonder about all kinds of small and silly language details. I just wondered what the (more?) correct translation of the Dutch word 'ingevuld' is. My first thought was 'fill out' (as in "can you fill out this questionnaire?"). Then I though 'fill in' (as in "can you fill in this questionnaire?"). Google Translate just gives me 'fill' when I give it 'invullen'. I think both are correct even though 'in' and 'out' are each others opposites... Of course 'fill in' can also be used in the following sentence: "Can you fill me in on the details?", where 'fill out' would be a no-go: "Can you fill me out on the details?". Any ideas on what I should use? In or out?

                Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                Regards, Sander

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                RedDk
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                "Fill in" really means "put down so there's nothing wanting". So there's a great amount of leeway left to chance in the directive. This is not a lecture but you shouldn't let your mind wander in this way. Concentrate.

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                • Y Yvan Rodrigues

                  **Fill in** and **fill out** are both correct, but are a bit informal. In a technical manual I would use something like: * Please **complete** this questionnaire. * Please **answer** this questionnaire. * Please **respond to** this questionnaire. * Can you **explain** the details to me? * Can you **update** me on the details? etc.

                  Yvan Rodrigues, C.Tech. Red Cell Innovation Inc.

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                  Sander Rossel
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                  Yvan Rodrigues wrote:

                  Please complete this questionnaire.

                  I've already completed it. All I need is for the user to fill it in/out :)

                  Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                  Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                  Regards, Sander

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    http://www.in-n-out.com/ It was a popular thing, when they sold bumper stickers, to remove the "B" and the "R". ;) Marc

                    Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project!

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                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    to remove the "B" and the "R"

                    In-N-Out uge :confused:

                    Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                    Regards, Sander

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                    • R Roger Wright

                      Though I've been called a cunning linguist by some, the only answer I can think of at this time is, "complete."

                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                      Sander Rossel
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                      I won't be complete until I know the difference between fill in and fill out and why two opposites are used for the same thing :D

                      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                      Regards, Sander

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                      • L Lost User

                        What is the difference between filling out and filling in a questionnaire? It is "ingevuld", "filled in".

                        Sander Rossel wrote:

                        I think both are correct even though 'in' and 'out' are each others opposites...

                        As you already said yourself, 'fill out on details' is a no go - spoken language is not coherently logical.

                        Sander Rossel wrote:

                        In or out?

                        Throw 'filled out' into GTrans and have your answer.

                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                        Sander Rossel
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                        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                        Throw 'filled out' into GTrans and have your answer.

                        Now do the same with "filled in" :laugh:

                        Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                        Regards, Sander

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                        • R RedDk

                          "Fill in" really means "put down so there's nothing wanting". So there's a great amount of leeway left to chance in the directive. This is not a lecture but you shouldn't let your mind wander in this way. Concentrate.

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                          Sander Rossel
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                          RedDk wrote:

                          This is not a lecture but you shouldn't let your mind wander in this way. Concentrate.

                          I was concentrating on my writing. So much even that I started to wonder what would be better, in or out? And then I set off to find out about it. Or did I find it in? Now that's dedicated writing! :laugh:

                          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                          Regards, Sander

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                          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                            Yvan Rodrigues wrote:

                            Please complete this questionnaire.

                            I've already completed it. All I need is for the user to fill it in/out :)

                            Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                            Regards, Sander

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                            Yvan Rodrigues
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                            LOL. As someone who writes **a lot**, English is definitely a quirky language.

                            Yvan Rodrigues, C.Tech. Red Cell Innovation Inc.

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                            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                              Marc Clifton wrote:

                              to remove the "B" and the "R"

                              In-N-Out uge :confused:

                              Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                              Regards, Sander

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                              Marc Clifton
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                              Sander Rossel wrote:

                              In-N-Out uge

                              See? This is what happens when the customer does not provide sufficiently detailed specs. Marc

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                              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                Throw 'filled out' into GTrans and have your answer.

                                Now do the same with "filled in" :laugh:

                                Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                Regards, Sander

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                                Lost User
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                                :-\ Still, as a Dutch person I prefer to "fill in the gaps on a form", opposed to "filling it out".

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                                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                  So whenever I'm writing I often wonder about all kinds of small and silly language details. I just wondered what the (more?) correct translation of the Dutch word 'ingevuld' is. My first thought was 'fill out' (as in "can you fill out this questionnaire?"). Then I though 'fill in' (as in "can you fill in this questionnaire?"). Google Translate just gives me 'fill' when I give it 'invullen'. I think both are correct even though 'in' and 'out' are each others opposites... Of course 'fill in' can also be used in the following sentence: "Can you fill me in on the details?", where 'fill out' would be a no-go: "Can you fill me out on the details?". Any ideas on what I should use? In or out?

                                  Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                  Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                  Regards, Sander

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                                  Lost User
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                                  This is a question of preference by location. Yanks tend to use Fill Out Poms tend to use Fill In I would suggest that "Fill In" is strictly more correct as "fill out" is just nonsense. Best definition I cold find of Fill Out was "to extend or enlarge to the desired limit; to make complete" (Websters) Which explains its use as in "Sean fills out the dress" and you can see how it could be used to suggest extending the contents of a form to complete it. Fill In on the other hand, is "to enrich with detail" Which is why you can "fill someone in" on the results of the enquiry.

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                                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                    So whenever I'm writing I often wonder about all kinds of small and silly language details. I just wondered what the (more?) correct translation of the Dutch word 'ingevuld' is. My first thought was 'fill out' (as in "can you fill out this questionnaire?"). Then I though 'fill in' (as in "can you fill in this questionnaire?"). Google Translate just gives me 'fill' when I give it 'invullen'. I think both are correct even though 'in' and 'out' are each others opposites... Of course 'fill in' can also be used in the following sentence: "Can you fill me in on the details?", where 'fill out' would be a no-go: "Can you fill me out on the details?". Any ideas on what I should use? In or out?

                                    Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                    Regards, Sander

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                                    Shuqian Ying
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                                    A coder tends to use "fill in" but a manager want it to be "fill out"ed ...?

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                                      A coder tends to use "fill in" but a manager want it to be "fill out"ed ...?

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                                      When in doubt, use "complete". The reader can then make her own interpretation. Bobby

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                                      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                        Now try "ox boll". ;P


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                                        Wastedtalent
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                                        fuzzy duck?

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                                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                          So whenever I'm writing I often wonder about all kinds of small and silly language details. I just wondered what the (more?) correct translation of the Dutch word 'ingevuld' is. My first thought was 'fill out' (as in "can you fill out this questionnaire?"). Then I though 'fill in' (as in "can you fill in this questionnaire?"). Google Translate just gives me 'fill' when I give it 'invullen'. I think both are correct even though 'in' and 'out' are each others opposites... Of course 'fill in' can also be used in the following sentence: "Can you fill me in on the details?", where 'fill out' would be a no-go: "Can you fill me out on the details?". Any ideas on what I should use? In or out?

                                          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                          Regards, Sander

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                                          EbenRoux
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                                          Hi Sander, In Afrikaans we also use "invul". But the more correct Afrikaans would be "voltooi" for a form of some sort. So I would go with "complete" for a questionnaire. So it is probably going to depend on the context :) Regards, Eben

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