I am afraid about programmers future
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I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.
Member 11375116 wrote:
And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers
There will be no "Googling Stack Overflow" then :laugh:
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Brent Jenkins wrote:
mentally and physically fit
Fit to do what?
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
Fit to do what?
Fit to stay FIT ;)
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Most people I come across have difficulty: Knowing what they want. Knowing what they need. Being able to express what they want. Being able to express what they need. So I don't see developers being made redundant any time soon, or we may just become translators for other people's vague and confused requirements. Which is basically what I currently do...
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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On a brighter note (again!), they'll probably still taste better than McDonalds :laugh:
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
I wouldn't worry, if we get true AI they'll be picky about what jobs they do / will probably just replace management to get better pay, spend their time doing what they enjoy, and leave the grunt work to humans. Those of us supporting the pyramid won't notice any change. The bigger risk is if we get pseudo AI, where our jobs are automated, but the machines are slaves; then whoever's at the top of the pyramid decides whether everyone should enjoy life, or just their select few... here's hoping for benevolence.
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I wouldn't worry, if we get true AI they'll be picky about what jobs they do / will probably just replace management to get better pay, spend their time doing what they enjoy, and leave the grunt work to humans. Those of us supporting the pyramid won't notice any change. The bigger risk is if we get pseudo AI, where our jobs are automated, but the machines are slaves; then whoever's at the top of the pyramid decides whether everyone should enjoy life, or just their select few... here's hoping for benevolence.
To be completely honest, I'm not worried about AI at all. Here's why.. When we talk about Artificial Intelligence, we really mean human-like intelligence, ie. like us. We somehow believe that we're some enlightened, knowledgeable creation set apart from every other living thing on the planet but that's only because we're vainly looking at our own reflection in the mirror and seeing what we want to see. Putting things onto an "absolute" scale, rather than a "relative" one, the average human isn't very intelligent (myself and all of us here included - no offence). It's taken nature how many billion years to reach this "pinnacle"? Yet somehow - in our brief time on this planet - we think we can do better (like with GM crops and insects). The best we can hope to achieve (and we'd need to be very, very lucky to get to this point) is probably on a par with Joey Essex (George W. Bush, for the non-Brits here :)). More likely, we'll achieve the same intelligence level of a jellyfish, perhaps even a bee if we really push ourselves. Like I said, I don't think we have anything to fear :laugh:
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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Some counties people's age average is getting older. Their young generation must protect them to some dangers. So they make an effort to invent the robots. And some countries working about robot soldier or some bad jobs like mining. Because if an robot is destroyed you don't answer for someone or something. So I think we will show robots at daily life in 30 years. And if their AI learn to learning , they will generally choose the best decision. that point the AI will be better than us. And Maybe evolution will works an our race and robots. Honestly I don't know what is the best way for the future. Note: My english isn't good I am trying to learn english.. If I did't correct express myself, sorry for misunderstanding :)
Member 11375116 wrote:
Note: My english isn't good I am trying to learn english.. If I did't correct express myself, sorry for misunderstanding
Not a problem. Here, at CodeProject, we're quite used to those still learning English. Some, particularly those from the United Kingdom, never seem to be able to get the hang of it - and probably never will. Alert! If your English teacher spells "color" as "colour" then run for the exits.
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I, for one, welcome our SkyNet Overlord.
You can lead a developer to CodeProject, but you can't make them think. The Theory of Gravity was invented for the sole purpose of distracting you from investigating the scientific fact that the Earth sucks.
Actually, I´m writing the core system for skynet. The part for launching the rockets is already done, and as soon we turn on SkyNet on 31st Dec. 2016 we have no more problems with consuming ...
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I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.
Same said about tractors in fact it created more jobs & more food. Eventually pretty much all would be automated and we all have to work less:)
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I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.
Yeah, yeah ... they've been saying that for years. The machines (compiler technology) writes more and more of the low-level code but you're never getting rid of programmers. The demand is higher than ever. Relax.
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jgakenhe wrote:
Sounds like the movie, Logan's Run.
That's exactly what I was going to say! ;-)
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We programed the machines to take away people's jobs, now the machines will program themselves and take away our jobs. When everything is automated, production of all the world's needs is as efficient as can be, then we can all live out lives of unfettered luxury, free from the daily toil of the working life. The planet and the machines will provide, all we need do is consume. Just need to get rid of 6 or 7 billion people first, but that's another story.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.
Being replaced by a machine? Unlikely. Being replaced by a third grader? That's a worry!
The difficult may take time, the impossible a little longer.
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I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.
Fear not. We don't get paid to write code. We get paid to write the "RIGHT" code. In between want and need, there are questions to ask. Everyone wants software. But the software must do what you need it to do. That analysis, it turns out, is VERY HARD. So, right now, 50% of all software projects fail. When humans are doing it, and we have "intelligence" and we can adapt and interpret what "users" really want. When computers start doing this, what do you think their success rate will be? Companies will hire smart people to help guide the computers. To ensure success. Programming may change, but I don't think it will ever go away. BTW, 33 years ago, when I was a teen, getting into software, my girlfriends father told me to find a new major. He worked for K-mart as a software developer, and he said back then that then CASE tools coming out were going to do away with developers. I believe adopting these technologies, instead of smart developers is what hurt K-Mart. Walmart... They spent a lot of money with some smart people, and designed the system to do what they needed. When it does happen it will be like this: "This amazing software writes ANY PROGRAM for you. It only requires 10 years of computer programming experience to use its interface!" Don't worry that your job wont be there. Be the best you can do, and work for the companies that cannot afford that software! (You don't think it's going to be cheap, do you?)
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I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.
It's probably less that AI will take over development in the near-ish future, but more that it could iterate much more quickly and for longer periods where the advantage for machines lies. They'll make a lot of the same sort of stupid blunders we all make, but will be able to try a different approach much more quickly than we can type, and won't have to take time away for that pesky eating and sleeping. Is Skynet online yet?
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I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.
We can always learn how to write requirements. The machines need some kind of input. Even in the Matrix, it was "yes, we accept this reality." And when they decide to go off and explore the universe, they'll have no reason to concern themselves with this little ball of mud any longer - particularly as it's coated with light silicates. They might leave the depleted carcass to us.
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jgakenhe wrote:
Sounds like the movie, Logan's Run.
That's exactly what I was going to say! ;-)
As long as it's not Soylent Green... :-)
Days spent at sea are not deducted from one's alloted span - Phoenician proverb
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They'll probably do it by designing self-organizing, self-replicating computation machines made mostly from the most common materials in the universe -- carbon, oxygen, hydrogen & nitrogen. :)
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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"Imminent demise of the Internet predicted" - yet again. I've been working as a programmer and a software engineer for 35 years, and I've heard that "in the future, computers were going to take away our jobs" in every one of those years. I grant you that program generators ("wizards") can now write much of the boilerplate involved in writing a program, but they are still far from being able to write a program from start to finish. I personally suspect that programming is one of the harder tasks attempted by humans, and that computers will not be able to do it before they have passed the Turing test.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
Pass the turing test? How long will that be? Or we could use genetic programming now. I think this is inevitable. It's only a question of when. I say 50 years (because I hope to die peacefully in my sleep before the bits hit the fan. Sucks for my (putative) grandchildren though.
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I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.
AI is a pipe-dream - nothing more. A computer is a mechanism, and so is a computer program: it's a software mechanism. So is an internal combustion engine. Functional, strong AI in a computer system is as likely as your car's internal combustion engine, together (presumably) with its engine management system, evolving into Optimus Prime. Isn't going to happen. I think what does happen all the time is that people have no idea how a computer works, and so they choose to believe that it's somehow an intelligent, thinking system -- which is the same as believing that your car knows where to go when you start it up.
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I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.
