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  • C chriselst

    What would be the one, reasonable, change that could be made to your place of work to make it better? Particularly looking forward to Griff's response to this? I've asked the question, but don't have a ready answer for myself.

    Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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    Corporal Agarn
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    Bonuses for the non-production staff. My suggestion is take 1% (or whatever) from the bonuses they give the production staff and give it to the people who allow production to make money. We are treated as an after thought. Production will get subs for lunch, we get: "Oh, production is done with the lunch, you can come and get what you want if anything is left."

    Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.

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    • C chriselst

      Walls was what I was thinking too. Although not because of Soccer. Currently trying not to listen to a conversation two pods of desks over about potatoes.

      Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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      I have three colleagues that talk CONSTANTLY, and loud. They are administratives - they have brief bursts of work then nothing for days - and they totally break concentration, especially on hard algorythmic problems. When they have nothing to say they go on for days repeating every few seconds a selection sentences of the last B-movie or Internet phenomenon they watched. Plus one of them has the abhorrent habit of repeating hte last word he heard, so if someone is answering the pohne he usually repeat the last word of each sentence. Plus the technocal assistance, which is made mostly on the phone, is in the same and only open space with the developers and administrative employees... Total chaos. I bought boxes of earplugs... and if the boss sees me using earplugs I risk disciplinary troubles. X|

      GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey

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      • M megaadam

        Wow! If I remember correctly this is the same workspace where the employees are allowed to access no more than approximately 7 specific websites. Am I wrong? But watching the telly is fine as the capo is into sports??

        Life is too shor

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        You remember perfectly. No, the capo is absent almost 4 days a week :D and he has his own office... carved at the extremes of the room there are offices with glass walls. No noise passes through and he can watch each and every one of us simply turning up his head. Usually when he's "in office" he sleeps or spends 3-4 hours at the nearby cafè then takes leave.

        megaadam wrote:

        But watching the telly is fine as the capo is into sports??

        They don't watch the TV in office but talk about the match of the previous evening. 8 hours straight. Violent thoughts arise...

        GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey

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        • C chriselst

          What would be the one, reasonable, change that could be made to your place of work to make it better? Particularly looking forward to Griff's response to this? I've asked the question, but don't have a ready answer for myself.

          Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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          R Giskard Reventlov
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          Free food. :-)

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          • 9 9082365

            Personal slaves?

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            Or at least development cheerleaders?

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            • C chriselst

              What would be the one, reasonable, change that could be made to your place of work to make it better? Particularly looking forward to Griff's response to this? I've asked the question, but don't have a ready answer for myself.

              Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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              Lost User
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              Pay me according to my work instead of according to how crappy your marketing strategies work out.

              Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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                Or at least development cheerleaders?

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                Lost User
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                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                Or at least development cheerleaders?

                We call them interns.

                Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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                • C chriselst

                  We do have a big, open stairway but most of the staff scuttle up and down the fire escape in the centre of the building for some reason. It retains farts for days. This is a stairway[^] (third picture).

                  Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                  PIEBALDconsult
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                  No; that won't work for me. When I was in college I worked in a place that had been a stately old house -- it even had narrow servants' stairways and all. It had a curved main stairway and carrying heavy equipment (LasetJet III, etc.) was problematic. Nowadays I'd just get dizzy going around the curves.

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                  • C chriselst

                    What would be the one, reasonable, change that could be made to your place of work to make it better? Particularly looking forward to Griff's response to this? I've asked the question, but don't have a ready answer for myself.

                    Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                    Tim Carmichael
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                    When I started, we had a coffee pot: regular or decaf - simple. Now, we have a Keurig. Bring back the coffee pot.. longer brew time on a per unit brew basis, but no lineup waiting for a cup to brew, heat the water, etc. But, I'm happy to have free coffee either way.

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                    • C chriselst

                      What would be the one, reasonable, change that could be made to your place of work to make it better? Particularly looking forward to Griff's response to this? I've asked the question, but don't have a ready answer for myself.

                      Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                      Amarnath S
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                      A supply of South Indian filter coffee, instead of some exotic foreign flavour. Especially, since my workplace is in Southern India.

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                      • C chriselst

                        What would be the one, reasonable, change that could be made to your place of work to make it better? Particularly looking forward to Griff's response to this? I've asked the question, but don't have a ready answer for myself.

                        Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                        Gary Wheeler
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                        Realistic: Move my desk from its current location (middle of a 60-cube farm) to a lab, along with the rest of my group. It would be nice to have peace and quiet. Purchasing is next to our current location in the middle 40 acres, and they're always on the phone. Idealistic: Having software engineering concerns and priorities given the same credence as mechanical, electrical, and chemical engineering. When you work for a hardware company, software is always free, quick, and easy. "Can't you just add a popup?" is everyone's favorite solution to every problem :mad:. It comes down to a simple matter of respect, which we don't get.

                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                        • P PIEBALDconsult

                          A bright, open, inviting stairway rather than the dark, cramped, hidden one we have now.

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                          Gary Wheeler
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                          We have The Spiral Staircase of Death. It's the shortest route from the downstairs cafeteria to the engineering wing second floor. It's also an easy way to die, if you get more than one person on it at a time (hence the name).

                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                            Hanging space for cycling gear to dry out during the day

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                            Gary Wheeler
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                            I leave mine hanging up in the locker room. Unfortunately there isn't any air circulation, so it's still damp when I ride home X| .

                            Software Zen: delete this;

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                            • G Gary Wheeler

                              Realistic: Move my desk from its current location (middle of a 60-cube farm) to a lab, along with the rest of my group. It would be nice to have peace and quiet. Purchasing is next to our current location in the middle 40 acres, and they're always on the phone. Idealistic: Having software engineering concerns and priorities given the same credence as mechanical, electrical, and chemical engineering. When you work for a hardware company, software is always free, quick, and easy. "Can't you just add a popup?" is everyone's favorite solution to every problem :mad:. It comes down to a simple matter of respect, which we don't get.

                              Software Zen: delete this;

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                              jeron1
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                              Gary Wheeler wrote:

                              "Can't you just add a popup?"

                              :laugh: :laugh: :) :) :| :| :( :( :(( :(( It's amazing how the software writes itself!

                              "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                                Gary Wheeler wrote:

                                "Can't you just add a popup?"

                                :laugh: :laugh: :) :) :| :| :( :( :(( :(( It's amazing how the software writes itself!

                                "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                                Gary Wheeler
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                                Unfortunately I'm not kidding. I've got a well-rehearsed temper tantrum I throw whenever some hardware moron suggests I do that to solve their problem, at least once a month. We build commercial ink-jet printers. We can move paper at up to 17 feet per second. I throw up a message box, by the time the operator notices it, we've printed a mile or two of unusable crap.

                                Software Zen: delete this;

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                                  What would be the one, reasonable, change that could be made to your place of work to make it better? Particularly looking forward to Griff's response to this? I've asked the question, but don't have a ready answer for myself.

                                  Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                                  kmoorevs
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                                  Elimination of personal cell phones. I'd gladly give mine up for 8 hours a day! If relatives/friends had to call my work number (mostly complaining or needing something) they probably wouldn't bother! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: It would also reduce the number of times I have to repeat myself due to a text message/email/phone call that interrupted a conversation! 'Sorry, what was that middle thing?' On a related note, I was told that it's rude to keep talking when the other person is obviously distracted by their phone. :confused:

                                  "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                  • G Gary Wheeler

                                    Unfortunately I'm not kidding. I've got a well-rehearsed temper tantrum I throw whenever some hardware moron suggests I do that to solve their problem, at least once a month. We build commercial ink-jet printers. We can move paper at up to 17 feet per second. I throw up a message box, by the time the operator notices it, we've printed a mile or two of unusable crap.

                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    jeron1
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                                    Gary Wheeler wrote:

                                    Unfortunately I'm not kidding

                                    I know and can sympathize. We were developing a mostly embedded system with 'some' portions being relagated to being apps on a PC. The phrase "jeez, can't we just make that a PC app?", became too frequent, very quickly we ended up with man years of development time, which was a complete surprise to all, except us. Our usual response of "you know, this will take a good bit of development time to complete" fell largely on deaf ears.

                                    "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                                    • K kmoorevs

                                      Elimination of personal cell phones. I'd gladly give mine up for 8 hours a day! If relatives/friends had to call my work number (mostly complaining or needing something) they probably wouldn't bother! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: It would also reduce the number of times I have to repeat myself due to a text message/email/phone call that interrupted a conversation! 'Sorry, what was that middle thing?' On a related note, I was told that it's rude to keep talking when the other person is obviously distracted by their phone. :confused:

                                      "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                      jeron1
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                                      kmoorevs wrote:

                                      Elimination of personal cell phones.

                                      Agreed!

                                      "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                                      • 9 9082365

                                        Personal slaves?

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                                        Pete OHanlon
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                                        I have them but apparently they would rather be called employees.

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                                        • C chriselst

                                          What would be the one, reasonable, change that could be made to your place of work to make it better? Particularly looking forward to Griff's response to this? I've asked the question, but don't have a ready answer for myself.

                                          Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                                          Chris Losinger
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                                          move it 31 miles to the south-west of its current location

                                          image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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